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Did your mother work in the UK for 5 years since 2006?

Jambo wrote:I understand your frustration. NCS should know better

Did your mother work in the UK for 5 years since 2006?

Hi

Thank you for your kind words.

My mother has worked, with breaks, since 2006.

She received her WRS in 2007.

How long are the gaps?

Could you details her employment history from 2006?

The reason I'm asking is that you can try and base your application on her activities (as her family member). In that case, CSI is not required.

Jambo wrote:How long are the gaps?

Could you details her employment history from 2006?

The reason I'm asking is that you can try and base your application on her activities (as her family member). In that case, CSI is not required.

It's hard to specify the gaps. She's a teacher who has been employed through teaching agencies since 2006. Due to the nature of her job, she hasn't had "typical" employment timeline.

my mom worked at schools through various teaching agencies. She didn't work more than 20hrs per week, on average. From January, 2010, She's been working in one school, on a permanent contract.

In the meantime, she married a british citizen. ( May 2009)

She received working tax credit and child benefit till I was 19. (April 2009)

I'm sorry, but that's all I can provide.

CSI is required if you apply based on your own activities and you are a student.

However, as you are under 21 during the relevant period, you are automatically considered a family member of your parents. If one of your parents exercise treaty rights, you can base your status on their activities. In that case, you don't need to provide CSI as you are not applying as a student but as a family member of a worker.

If your mother can provide 5 P60's or letter from employers to cover the 5 years 2006-2011, that will prove she has obtained PR and that you have obtained PR as well.

20 hrs per weeks is fine. Getting the benefits is fine as well. I hope she did register for WRS as it was required to do so if employed.

St.Augustine wrote:Hi Guys,

How can I withdraw my application for british citizenship ?

After doing some extensive research online, I think I many lose my case.

I applied on the basis of being a student. At the time when I tried to get comprehensive sickness insurance through my mom, should could do get it because of her job situation (she's a teacher who's been employed through various agencies).

Now, HO is requiring for me to show proof of CSI and I dont have any.

I dont know how to argue this point. I can't say that I did not have csi because my mom was rejected by most private insurance companies because her income wasn't sufficient.

Please, please, please help me guys, I'm really desperate

Jambo wrote:At this stage withdrawing the application would lead to a loss of fees as would a refusal.

Why to open a new thread? Didn't we discuss your options the other day?

St.Augustine wrote:

Jambo wrote:At this stage withdrawing the application would lead to a loss of fees as would a refusal.

Why to open a new thread? Didn't we discuss your options the other day?

Hi Jambo,

I've sent you a pm.

by the way, would home office partially refund me if I withdrew my application now?

I applied on the 2.09.13 and I received a confirmation on the 7.09.13.

Chapter 6 > 6.10 > Refund = Ceremony fees = £80.

If you can't use your mother's employment, you will need to sort the CSI.

Could you get a letter from the Polish health authorities confirming you have been covered by them during the time?

vinny wrote:Chapter 6 > 6.10 > Refund = Ceremony fees = £80.

Hi Vinny,

Thank you for replying.

£ 80 refund ? that's it ? Oh, I might as well go forth with the application

Jambo wrote:If you can't use your mother's employment, you will need to sort the CSI.

Could you get a letter from the Polish health authorities confirming you have been covered by them during the time?

Hi Jambo

You see, Ho is requesting proof of SCI from April 2008 till December 2009. My mother's private health insurance from Poland only lasted till March 08'.

I could not get her to get private insurance for me from April because she could not afford it at the time. Also, most insurers weren't willing to give it to her given her employment. At that time, it wasn't really requested or demanded that I need to have private health insurance.

With all due respect for the authorities, I think that it is a strange requirement to expect of me. I understand, if there are students who arrive in the uk and are here solely for the purpose of studying and don't have family here. In that case, I can understand the need to have private medical insurance.

When I enrolled in college, I was never asked to show proof of csi in order to become a legit student. instead, I was registered with the NHS, given a medical card, signed at my nearest surgery.

Also, I'm not an independent student and wasn't at the time when I turned 18, my mother and step dad were my carers. How was I supposed to get private health insurance without any income ?

When I went to NCS, they person who was proof checking my application said that I don't need CSI.

I just do not understand how there can be so many discrepancies ? Isn't the case of requiring CSI still disputed between the UK and EU ?

Honestly, it feels as if this is a not-spoken about rule to get more money from people.

In any case, I refuse to let this slide. I genuinely don't think that it's my fault for this misunderstanding.

Thank you for your time jambo x

Is your step father a EU national? Did he work in the UK for 5 years?

I understand your frustration but I'm trying to find a way for you the meet (the unfair/questionable/secretive) requirement of CSI.

Jambo wrote:Is your step father a EU national? Did he work in the UK for 5 years?

I understand your frustration but I'm trying to find a way for you the meet (the unfair/questionable/secretive) requirement of CSI.

Hi Jambo,

Thank you for being helpful, I truly appreciate it and am thankful for your advice. You've been more helpful through this forum then most administrators and case workers have been, and they're paid for their job !.

My step dad is English, he's a british national.

Jambo wrote: Could you get a letter from the Polish health authorities confirming you have been covered by them during the time?

He could only do it if his mother was working in Poland during that period. Since his mother is over here as well then there is no possbility to confirm a health insurance from Polish NHS simply because they were not insured in Poland since they emmigrated.

It looks like some students from EEA who are living in the UK with their parents are in the limbo or at least those who turned 21 during their studies. In the Polish community there is an attitude that applying for Registration Certifitate is a waste of time and its value is more or less equal to a piece of toilet paper.

As the time shown it could save a whole lot of complications and stress, examption from CSI requirement.

@ St. Augustine, I understand your frustration but it's their (Home Office) way or the highway. Turning away from their instruction won't get you any further.

Jaeger wrote:

Jambo wrote: Could you get a letter from the Polish health authorities confirming you have been covered by them during the time?

He could only do it if his mother was working in Poland during that period. Since his mother is over here as well then there is no possbility to confirm a health insurance from Polish NHS simply because they were not insured in Poland since they emmigrated.

It looks like some students from EEA who are living in the UK with their parents are in the limbo or at least those who turned 21 during their studies. In the Polish community there is an attitude that applying for Registration Certifitate is a waste of time and its value is more or less equal to a piece of toilet paper.

As the time shown it could save a whole lot of complications and stress, examption from CSI requirement.

@ St. Augustine, I understand your frustration but it's their (Home Office) way or the highway. Turning away from their instruction won't get you any further.

Hi Jaeger

Thank you for your reply.

Before emigrating, my mom had bought a special type of health insurance that can be used in the uk. It was good to use till March 08'.

My mother did try her best, but could not obtain private medical insurance from companies such as bupa, aviva etc because she did not have a permanent working contract. She could not afford private insurance for us. It wasn't the case of her thinking that is was useless. She simply could not afford it.

My mistake doesn't lie in ignorance or greed. My problem could lie in the fact that HO will not see this and refuse my application, just because I did not have private insurance, something that I could not get myself. Something that my mom tried to obtain for me, but couldn't. NOT DIDN"T WANT TO, BUT COULDN'T.

Also, the attitude towards obtaining CSI for citizenship purposes was a lot more different in 2007-2008 than it is now.

If other polish people have made you think of them in such a way, then I think you're entitled to your opinion. However, please refrain from generalising.

Do you think that this is a genuine/legitimate reason to potentially decline someone's application ?