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English requirement query
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:15 pm
by vinavs
Hi All,
My wife did her masters in English, but did her bachelors in mother tongue. Can she submit her masters for naturalisation? I checked in PBS calcualtor and she got 10 points for her masters degree in English language.
Regards,
Vi
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:29 pm
by Amber
Yes, a print out of the calculator.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:10 am
by vedant12
Amber - thank you for clarifying. One follow up question if I may:
To confirm, so long as the PBS grants the points for English language for a certain degree (and we have the PBS calculator printout as proof), we don't need a separate NARIC certificate stating that the qualification was taught in English. Reason I ask is in form AN, it now states:
"I have obtained an academic qualification deemed by UK NARIC to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor's or Master's degree or PHD in the UK and
(i) UK NARIC has confirmed that the qualification was taught or researched in English..."
Thank you.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:34 am
by Amber
The print-out should suffice.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:18 pm
by guri_78
Amber - Just a quicky
Question 1.22 (English language part) in AN form, what would the best ans when you submit original degree + letter from uni + print out of PBS?
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:35 pm
by Amber
3rd and 4th box of question 1.22.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:03 pm
by guri_78
Amber_ wrote:3rd and 4th box of question 1.22.
Sorry Amber, didnt get exactly...can you pls tell from following. I just typed the first few words of each line....
1. Speaking and listening in English B1 CEFR...
2. I have obtained an academic....
i) UK NARIC
ii) the qualification....
3. I am a national of Majority.....
4. I met the knowledge of language and life.....
5. I wish to claim......
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:53 am
by Amber
2. I have obtained an academic....
i) UK NARIC
ii) the qualification....
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:50 am
by guri_78
Amber_ wrote:2. I have obtained an academic....
i) UK NARIC
ii) the qualification....
Are above the correct ans? Because Qualification is from INdia which is definitely not majority english speaking country. Also, I didnt take any direct confirmation letter from UK NARIC either. Its the PBS from UKBA website.
My Qualification is: B.E (Comp Sci) from India
Submitting Original degree + letter from Uni stating medium instruction was English + print out of PBS.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:33 am
by Amber
It say the qualification was researched/taught in English OR in a majority English speaking Country, does it not?
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:42 am
by guri_78
It is as follows
UK NARIC has confirmed that qualification was researched/taught in English
OR
in a majority English speaking Country....
PBS does not seem a confirmation from UK NARIC, or does it???
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:44 am
by Amber
Yes, it does, for this purpose.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:46 am
by guri_78
In that case, ans would be as follow only, other part (ii) the qualification....) is not correct then...isnt it?
2. I have obtained an academic....
i) UK NARIC
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:49 am
by Amber
Both and writing in the extra information page the PBS calculator has confirmed such by awarding 20/30 points for qualification and 10 for English Skills.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:52 am
by guri_78
If you meant both i) and ii), then I am sorry Amber, I dont get...can you please tell the reason for why ii) is correct...I just make sure before filling it in form.
Thanks
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:45 am
by Amber
Because it was taught in English
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:47 am
by guri_78
thanks Amber for your reply. Let me get a wider view on this.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:10 am
by Amber
guri_78 wrote:Hi Guys,
I am applying for BC filling the AN form and is confused what should the best answer of Q 1.22 regarding KOLL in AN form. I have LIUK which I passed before ILR last year. This is regarding English language part of it.
My Qualification is: B.E (Comp Sci) from India
Submitting Original degree + Letter from Uni stating medium instruction was English + Print out of PBS where it gives me 10 points.
Here are the options. I am typing in the first few words of each option.
1. Speaking and listening in English B1 CEFR......[ ]
2. I have obtained an academic........[ ]
i) UK NARIC has confirmed that qualification was researched/taught in English .... [ ]
ii) the qualification was taught/researched in UK or in a majority English speaking Country.... [ ]
3. I am a national of Majority English speaking Country..... [ ]
4. I met the knowledge of language and life..... [ ]
5. I wish to claim...... [ ]
What would be correct answer??
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:14 am
by GoGetit009
Hi folks
I searched this forum, but did not see a definitive answer. If I have missed anything then elighten me. I am applying for BC tomorrow and so any quick suggestion will be helpful.
1. PBS Calculator -
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator
I understand that if someone gets 10 points in PBS calculator, then that is good enough to satisfy the english requirment. Also once satsifed the above critieria, the following items are not mandatory
- it is not mandatory to get letter from university that the degree was taught in english (good to have but not mandatory)
- no need to get approval from NARIC or sit for any english exam
Please can anyone confirm if clear "YES or NO" if my understanding is correct.
2. In PBS calculator what should I select at the first question "applying for Tier1 or Tier2". Based on this choice further screens are different.
thankyou for your continuous support
Re: English requirement query and Q 1.22 in AN form
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:44 am
by guri_78
I modified the subject to reflect this.
Amber_ wrote:guri_78 wrote:Hi Guys,
I am applying for BC filling the AN form and is confused what should the best answer of Q 1.22 regarding KOLL in AN form. I have LIUK which I passed before ILR last year. This is regarding English language part of it.
My Qualification is: B.E (Comp Sci) from India
Submitting Original degree + Letter from Uni stating medium instruction was English + Print out of PBS where it gives me 10 points.
Here are the options. I am typing in the first few words of each option.
1. Speaking and listening in English B1 CEFR......[ ]
2. I have obtained an academic........[ ]
i) UK NARIC has confirmed that qualification was researched/taught in English .... [ ]
ii) the qualification was taught/researched in UK or in a majority English speaking Country.... [ ]
3. I am a national of Majority English speaking Country..... [ ]
4. I met the knowledge of language and life..... [ ]
5. I wish to claim...... [ ]
What would be correct answer??
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:47 am
by guri_78
1. Original Degree + Print out will do. Its upto you if you want to attach the letter. I am attaching it but its optional.
2. Put anything and go to Education tab. Add you degrees and then it will give you 10 points. Take a print out of that page.
What are you select in Q 1.22 in AN form?
GoGetit009 wrote:Hi folks
I searched this forum, but did not see a definitive answer. If I have missed anything then elighten me. I am applying for BC tomorrow and so any quick suggestion will be helpful.
1. PBS Calculator -
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator
I understand that if someone gets 10 points in PBS calculator, then that is good enough to satisfy the english requirment. Also once satsifed the above critieria, the following items are not mandatory
- it is not mandatory to get letter from university that the degree was taught in english (good to have but not mandatory)
- no need to get approval from NARIC or sit for any english exam
Please can anyone confirm if clear "YES or NO" if my understanding is correct.
2. In PBS calculator what should I select at the first question "applying for Tier1 or Tier2". Based on this choice further screens are different.
thankyou for your continuous support
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:36 pm
by vinavs
Thanks all, I got the following reply from KOL Policy team. So, it means masters degree is acceptable for naturalisation:
"
If the degree is recognised by the PBS calculator, and has been awarded 10 points for English language, then regardless of whether this is at Bachelor or Master level, a print of the calculator results will be acceptable evidence for the English language element of the KOLL requirement.
"
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:38 pm
by guri_78
Hi vinavs
Can you pls forward me the email? I can PM u my email id?
Alo what will you tick in Q 1.22 now?
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:42 am
by vinavs
This is my question:
"Dear Sir/Madam,
Thanks for you reply. But, section mentions a generic term "degree". So, could you please confirm if the degree could be masters.
I am confused because I have Masters degree which is found in the PBS calculator and I got 10 points for english language. So, I want to confirm if the
masters degree is acceptable for the English language requirement for naturalisation.
"
This is the reply from KOL team
Dear Sir/Madam,
If the degree is recognised by the PBS calculator, and has been awarded 10 points for English language, then regardless of whether this is at Bachelor or Master level, a print of the calculator results will be acceptable evidence for the English language element of the KOLL requirement.
Re: English requirement query
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:18 pm
by evil_grrrl666
I was just reading through the forum because my husband is hoping to apply for citizenship.
Before filling the form I had gone through the calculator with the understanding that if the university is in the list, it's fine, but now we input the specifics of the degree, it returns 0 points!
It's a Bachelor in Business Administration from Panjab University, Chandigarh, India and it was taught in English. He also has an MBA but that's not internationally recognised as a Master's degree I guess, I can't find the institute that issued it in the list at all.
Does this mean that Naric has said bachelor's degrees from this university don't count for English or just that nobody asked them yet?? Is there any hope in applying to Naric for this considering this information? Also, the only things he has is the certificate and I think the mark sheet, getting a letter from the university stating it taught the degree in English would be a bureaucratic nightmare, plus we're not in a position to travel to India to go through all that right now.
Thanks for all your help, because I'm freaking out right now. Before this everything seemed so straightforward...
Laura