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NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:19 pm
by ashwini_k
I I had a question for people who have previously applied for their naturalisation at an NCS.

I will be applying for my citizenship via the NCS route and wanted to ask how soon after the appointment at NCS was the application received by the UKBA.

I was out of the country on assignment on the day I complete my 5 years. My question is that I returned for 2 days to the U.K. For example I returned to UK on the 23rd and 24th of a month. Can I apply at ncs on the 23rd and expect application to be received by UKBA on the 24th?

Would appreciate if people can share their experiences.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:50 am
by milan69
If you apply via NCS it should take no more than 2 days for HO to receive the application.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:54 am
by CR001
Check with the NCS as some send apps daily and others send batches of apps once a week. Date of application is the day/date +1 that HO receives it.

If your timeframe is so tight, it might be worth waiting as if HO receives it on a day that you were not physically in the UK exactly 5 years ago, your application will be refused

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:24 am
by ashwini_k
Thank you for the answers.

My timeframe is tight. Else could mean that I have to wait 3-4 months before I can apply again. I was trying to get it sorted out at the earliest.

One more question question, could I book ncs appointment on 22nd. Even though I was not in the country on the 22nd 5 years ago?That way I still have 2 days for HO to receive application.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:40 am
by CR001
The relevant date that needs to correspond with 5 years ago is the date that HO receives it, not NCS. Check with the NCS you want to use how frequently they send the applications. It is a lot of money to lose if there is a hiccup (postal strike, someone forgot, etc) and you are refused due to your tight timeline.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:49 pm
by great.britain
Hi CR001

I along with my wife and tŵo under 10 kids applied for naturalisation via Hammersmith NCS yesterday 1/4/15. They told me that they would post my application to UKVI today 2/4/15 and the application would reach Home Office on Tuesday 7/4/15 and Home Office would accept it and take the old fee even if the application reached there after the new fee comes into effect.

The NCS officer said that it is an arrangement between Hammersmith NCS and Home Office. He added that HO accepts Naturalisation application date as it is submitted to the NCS.

Plz let me know if it is true or am I going to pay the difference in fee and the new AN and MN1 forms?

Looking forward to your reply.

Regards
Ali

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:27 pm
by fwd079
great.britain wrote:Hi CR001

I along with my wife and tŵo under 10 kids applied for naturalisation via Hammersmith NCS yesterday 1/4/15. They told me that they would post my application to UKVI today 2/4/15 and the application would reach Home Office on Tuesday 7/4/15 and Home Office would accept it and take the old fee even if the application reached there after the new fee comes into effect.

The NCS officer said that it is an arrangement between Hammersmith NCS and Home Office. He added that HO accepts Naturalisation application date as it is submitted to the NCS.

Plz let me know if it is true or am I going to pay the difference in fee and the new AN and MN1 forms?

Looking forward to your reply.

Regards
Ali
Interesting.
However as you said, it could be an arrangement between HO and Council but I am not sure. As I've seem from vinny's posted link in another discussion:
6.3.2 Who is the appropriate receiving authority?
...
For applications received on or after 16 July 2012, the appropriate „receiving authorities‟ are:
i. the Home Secretary if, on the date of receipt, the applicant is in Great Britain or Northern Ireland;

...

6.3.3 What is the date of application?

6.3.3.1 The date of application is the date of its receipt by the appropriate "receiving authority", as explained in paragraph 6.3.2, prescribed by paragraph 4 of the British Nationality (General) Regulations 1982 and 2003 as amended.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:13 am
by great.britain
Hi Fwd079

Thanks for sharing HO doc in Vinny's previous post where it clearly states that the date of application is the date when HO receives the application.

You're right. It seems interesting, but Hammersmith NCS Officer's statement that they have an arrangement with HO seems confusing and misleading! I may be proved wrong if HO doesn't ask me to pay the difference between the old fee and the new fee after HO receives my application on 7/04/2015.

Any other thoughts/experiences on this particular scenario?

Regards

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:04 pm
by fwd079
I'd now wait and see. Good luck.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:06 pm
by ashwini_k
great.britain wrote:Hi Fwd079

Thanks for sharing HO doc in Vinny's previous post where it clearly states that the date of application is the date when HO receives the application.

You're right. It seems interesting, but Hammersmith NCS Officer's statement that they have an arrangement with HO seems confusing and misleading! I may be proved wrong if HO doesn't ask me to pay the difference between the old fee and the new fee after HO receives my application on 7/04/2015.

Any other thoughts/experiences on this particular scenario?

Regards
What was the outcome? Was the date of receipt by home office on the 7th?

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:52 am
by great.britain
Hi ashwini_k

I submitted my application on 01/04/15 and Hammersmith NCS officer posted my application on 02/04/15.
HO received it on 07/04/15.... but I haven't heard anything from them yet.

I'm assuming that HO will take the payment next week.....fingers crossed!

I'll keep you guys posted.

Cheers

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:51 am
by vinny

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:49 pm
by ashwini_k
Vinny, I read recently on the forum that now date of application with NCS is considered to be the date of receipt by home office. Could you confirm please?

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:16 pm
by Casa
Confirmed.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:50 pm
by vinny
Although the form AN does state:
form AN wrote:The date of application will be the date your form is received by the Home Office, Nationality Checking Service or the local British government representative as shown above.
I haven't seen the Nationality Instructions > 6.3.3 nor Regulations updated to include the NCS as a receiving authority.

Which is strange.

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:28 pm
by HelloitsmeAbby
Hi all,

I've just rang my local NCS and they've stated that the Date of Application is now NCS appointment.
This is a recent decision and all councils who offer NCS have been informed.
I also asked from what date does this new decision apply, but she didn't know so I can only assume from the date of their letter when they received it....

Re: NCS Application- date of application vs date of receipt

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:34 pm
by ashwini_k
Excellent. I was travelling a lot 5 years back and it was stressful trying to figure out an appropriate date to apply.

If anyone finds any HO note which confirms this, would be very helpful.

Thank you!