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Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:30 pm
by sbr
Hi All

I am due to attend oath ceremony end of January and need to travel to india shortly after. I checked with Indian high commission and they said there is a grace period of 90 days from issue of naturalisation certificate. I also know that I will have to return my BRP ILR card once I get the nat. cert. So my question is when returning back to UK;
1. Will the airline/ indian immigration give me a hard time explaining what visa I am traveling on?
2. Will my nat. cert. be acceptable proof at UK border to enter the UK?


Thanks

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:34 pm
by Wanderer
I think there is now a requirement for the ILR BRP card to be returned after the ceremony so travel might well be impossible.

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:36 pm
by noajthan
sbr wrote:Hi All

I am due to attend oath ceremony end of January and need to travel to india shortly after. I checked with Indian high commission and they said there is a grace period of 90 days from issue of naturalisation certificate. I also know that I will have to return my BRP ILR card once I get the nat. cert. So my question is when returning back to UK;
1. Will the airline/ indian immigration give me a hard time explaining what visa I am traveling on?
2. Will my nat. cert. be acceptable proof at UK border to enter the UK?


Thanks
1) Most likely.

2) Yes - but see 1.

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:39 pm
by sbr
correct the ILR has to be returned within 5 days of getting nat cert.. .. hence my question as to whether nat. cert. is acceptable proof?

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:40 pm
by Wanderer
sbr wrote:correct the ILR has to be returned within 5 days of getting nat cert.. .. hence my question as to whether nat. cert. is acceptable proof?
Yeah sorry ignore my post, didn't read yours properly!

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:40 pm
by CR001
Naturalisation certificate is not a travel document. Stupid and India immigration might not have a clue what it is especially given that it is a piece of paper with no photo and could have been printed at home.

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:59 pm
by sbr
So, the only option left is getting British Passport... is that correct?

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:56 pm
by abhatt
I was under similar situation last month. Had the ceremony and travelled to India after 3 days. No one took away my ILR. I am not sure where you get this information from.

I travelled to India as Indian citizen and left India showing my ILR. I did fill out landing card on entering the UK as British traveling on Indian passport. This was suggested my one member of this forum and worked for me.

The immigration officer in the UK told me that I could have used UK national queue with my naturalisation certificate. Apparently once you are naturalised your bio-matric goes off the system and if you go into non-EU queue they will have to sit you down if they can't fine your bio-matric so best is to enter the UK as British showing your naturalisation certificate even if you do not have British passport. I hope this helps.

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:05 pm
by sbr
hi abhatt,

thanks for your info. This page says that you need to return the BRP within 5 days of naturalisation certificate issue - (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-c ... p-ceremony ).. The page says it was updated 8th Jan 2016 at the bottom.

It states clearly that you may be fined up to £1000 if you dont return the BRP. Am not sure if this clause has come in the last week or so...

So my assessment is -
1. Naturalisation cert is not a travel doc
2. My passport does not have a ILR stamp as ILR is only my BRP card. I'll have to return the BRP card after obtaining nat. cert.

based on 1 and 2 - I can go to india, but, do not have anything that says I can travel back to UK. feeling gutted !!!

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:09 pm
by abhatt
Hi sbr

Looks like I was lucky as I returned on the same day when this new guidance came in. I am not sure now if people who got their certificates last month has to return the BRP. I wouldn't have even known this if I haven't visited the forum to check passport application's processing timings!

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:33 pm
by brynsadler
sbr wrote:hi abhatt,

thanks for your info. This page says that you need to return the BRP within 5 days of naturalisation certificate issue - (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-c ... p-ceremony ).. The page says it was updated 8th Jan 2016 at the bottom.

It states clearly that you may be fined up to £1000 if you dont return the BRP. Am not sure if t

Does the abpve rule apply only to BRP cards? what about the ILR sticker some of us have. Does that need to returned ?

B

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:37 pm
by CR001
brynsadler wrote:
sbr wrote:hi abhatt,

thanks for your info. This page says that you need to return the BRP within 5 days of naturalisation certificate issue - (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-c ... p-ceremony ).. The page says it was updated 8th Jan 2016 at the bottom.

It states clearly that you may be fined up to £1000 if you dont return the BRP. Am not sure if t

Does the abpve rule apply only to BRP cards? what about the ILR sticker some of us have. Does that need to returned ?

B
Only BRP cards. Impossible to return your foreign passport to HO isn't it :?

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:55 pm
by vishpb35
sbr wrote:hi abhatt,

thanks for your info. This page says that you need to return the BRP within 5 days of naturalisation certificate issue - (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-c ... p-ceremony ).. The page says it was updated 8th Jan 2016 at the bottom.

It states clearly that you may be fined up to £1000 if you dont return the BRP. Am not sure if this clause has come in the last week or so...

So my assessment is -
1. Naturalisation cert is not a travel doc
2. My passport does not have a ILR stamp as ILR is only my BRP card. I'll have to return the BRP card after obtaining nat. cert.

based on 1 and 2 - I can go to india, but, do not have anything that says I can travel back to UK. feeling gutted !!!

The latest AN form (01/16 version) has option where you tick that you will submit biometric after 5 days of attending ceremony. I am sure when you submitted AN Form , those options were not there. so wondering if it applies to anyone who filled AN form before Jan 2016?

Re: Travel on Indian Passport after oath ceremony

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:39 pm
by sbr
vishpb35 wrote: The latest AN form (01/16 version) has option where you tick that you will submit biometric after 5 days of attending ceremony. I am sure when you submitted AN Form , those options were not there. so wondering if it applies to anyone who filled AN form before Jan 2016?
Yes these were not there. Bear in mind, the link I pasted for gov uk applies regardless i.e., it does not say "if this option was selected in your application, then this applies".