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British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:52 pm
by reticuli
Hi,

I'm British by birth but my wife is Russian with British citizenship and currently in the process of applying for her first British passport.

However, when it comes to the part of the form where it asks for her grandparents details, she just flat refuses to provide the information. I accept she might not know it, but it's not that she can't find this information out. She can easily contact her parents to find this information out. It would take all of a few minutes. But she just flat refuses to carry out this basic task because in her opinion "it's not necessary".

Does she need to supply this information?

Can she be refused a passport on the basis of not providing her grandparents details?

Are there examples of people who have been refused on this basis?

If she is refused on this basis, would this make it more difficult to apply a second time, this time including the requested information?

Re: British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:35 am
by noajthan
reticuli wrote:Hi,

I'm British by birth but my wife is Russian with British citizenship and currently in the process of applying for her first British passport.

However, when it comes to the part of the form where it asks for her grandparents details, she just flat refuses to provide the information. I accept she might not know it, but it's not that she can't find this information out. She can easily contact her parents to find this information out. It would take all of a few minutes. But she just flat refuses to carry out this basic task because in her opinion "it's not necessary".

Does she need to supply this information?

Can she be refused a passport on the basis of not providing her grandparents details?

Are there examples of people who have been refused on this basis?

If she is refused on this basis, would this make it more difficult to apply a second time, this time including the requested information?
The info is not required for a naturalised applicant.
'Not known' or 'not applicable' can be stated.

In my wife's case she provided some sparse information & omitted the rest.

Re: British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:46 am
by Gomjaba
reticuli wrote:In my wife's case she provided some sparse information & omitted the rest.
That helped me as well actually. I presumed it doesn't really apply but I still gave some info. I know the details of one part, but not the other and I have noi way of finding out but there is at lest a box to explain that.

The only thing I worry, I had to ask a lot of people to get the stuff I put in and I am not sure if that will be subject of the interview. I wonder if I have to learn those dates I supplied ;)

Re: British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:02 am
by erdogan1
For my wife, she just put Unknown.
if you put sparse details in, they will ask about it in ID interview also.

Re: British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:49 pm
by reticuli
Thank you everyone for your reply. It was all very helpful and reassuring.

Re: British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:17 pm
by Gomjaba
erdogan1 wrote:For my wife, she just put Unknown.
if you put sparse details in, they will ask about it in ID interview also.
Indeed - could kick myself for providing some info .. Took my parents and myself hours to even come up with the sparse details to begin with .. I certainly don't know them by heart ..

Re: British Passport application and Grandparent details

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:29 pm
by Wanderer
reticuli wrote:Hi,

I'm British by birth but my wife is Russian with British citizenship and currently in the process of applying for her first British passport.

However, when it comes to the part of the form where it asks for her grandparents details, she just flat refuses to provide the information. I accept she might not know it, but it's not that she can't find this information out. She can easily contact her parents to find this information out. It would take all of a few minutes. But she just flat refuses to carry out this basic task because in her opinion "it's not necessary".

Does she need to supply this information?

Can she be refused a passport on the basis of not providing her grandparents details?

Are there examples of people who have been refused on this basis?

If she is refused on this basis, would this make it more difficult to apply a second time, this time including the requested information?

Haha! I know that Russian mentality very well!!

I have seen applications returned around the time we applied this time last year for not including the Grandparents details, as the form at that time wasn't very clear on this. I'm pretty sure it's necessary as they use it to verify identity at the passport interview.

Russian women are bloody hard work, aren't they. Just wait till she gets your washing tin cans before opening them (rats run over them in the warehouse), washing potatoes BEFORE peeling them AND after....

She went mental when she found out I was getting three brews out of a teabag.......