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HI,
i wonder whether motoring conviction received twice in the period of 8 years would affect the citizenship application.

one was received in 2009, driving otherwise than in accordance with driving regulations (having no licence for the bike), 3 points on driving license, no court hearing.
second: in 2012 failing to disclose information as to the identity of the driver (MS90). fined by the court £45 and 6 points on driving licence.

Whether they have to be disclosed at all, particularly one in 2009?

There has been some lidle and other types of parking charges as well, but they are to be disregarded completely.

i am aware of the GOOD ChARACTER requirement in AN applications, although someone with relevant experience may contribute to this blog as to the best route to approach such conditions.

What's "some lidle" ?

All offences MUST be declared.

read this.

your answer is here. good luck

http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 05532.html

"LIdle" car park penalty

alisha2006 wrote:"LIdle" car park penalty

Ah. Lidl

juniorcares wrote:read this.

your answer is here. good luck

http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 05532.html

I had read those and other requirements of character earlier

What checks are done to id the convictions by HO?

I have recently had Enhanced DBC check done and it shows no offense/conviction recorded in the file.

As none of us work for the HO it's impossible to know what goes on behind closed doors. Checks may well include accessing data held by the DVLA as well as other Government departments.

You can be refused for withholding details of offences, even these wouldn't have resulted in a refusal of your application.

Casa wrote:As none of us work for the HO it's impossible to know what goes on behind closed doors. Checks may well include accessing data held by the DVLA as well as other Government departments.

You can be refused for withholding details of offences, even these wouldn't have resulted in a refusal of your application.

would 2 offenses over the period of time i have indicated class as a persistent offending for the HO for the discretionary grant?
I am not intending withholding this information although, as they are not on DBS it may not actually be revealed on the checks. I guess someone with practical experience of such matter can clarify, as we have no "behind the door" insight.

I guess your point does not show on your licence. If it does then print it out and submit it with your application. As for the 2009 offence, I am sure it won't count so do not bother about it.

good luck

juniorcares wrote:I guess your point does not show on your licence. If it does then print it out and submit it with your application. As for the 2009 offence, I am sure it won't count so do not bother about it.

good luck

Thanks
2009 expired in 2012 and removed 2013
2011 expired in 2015 and removed 2016
none of the are shown in the Electronic driving licence certificate, moreover, they do not even appear on Enhanced DBS checks.

Q11 - Should I declare my conviction even if it is spent?

You should declare all spent and unspent convictions. You should also include information relating to any FPNs (that are still on your licence or have been given in the last 12 months) and Fiscal Fines. If you have any endorsements on your driving licence you must provide the paper counterpart.

In addition section 3.18 now states:

Have you ever engaged in any other activities which might indicate that you may not be considered a person of good character?

This may include instances where a person did not receive a conviction or out of court disposal.

Q12 - I did not include my conviction will I be refused?

It depends on the intent. If you concealed minor convictions and were refused because of this, you will likely be refused citizenship for a 10 year period.

alisha2006 wrote:
I have recently had Enhanced DBC check done and it shows no offense/conviction recorded in the file.

Organisations with full access to PNC (Police National Computer) and PND (Police National Database), and the Home Office is one of them, can see everything that is being held on these databases. Enhanced DBS doesn't show absolutely everything. DBS is designed to provide information to third parties (outside Govt). Only Police, Government agencies, etc. have full access.

As other respected members have said before, everything should be declared because HO has full access to those systems. An offence or record might be irrelevant but it's important to be declared.

Do PCN & PND hold information relating to the civil matters as well? (likes of parking fine,CCJ etc) would you know centralized database where such info may be held?

Why not just declare them?

alisha2006 wrote:

Casa wrote:As none of us work for the HO it's impossible to know what goes on behind closed doors. Checks may well include accessing data held by the DVLA as well as other Government departments.

You can be refused for withholding details of offences, even these wouldn't have resulted in a refusal of your application.

would 2 offenses over the period of time i have indicated class as a persistent offending for the HO for the discretionary grant?
I am not intending withholding this information although, as they are not on DBS it may not actually be revealed on the checks. I guess someone with practical experience of such matter can clarify, as we have no "behind the door" insight.

As there is an element of discretion that caseworker can apply, someone else's experience may not illuminate yours. It would only confirm that discretion was or was not applied.
Policies and guidance and practices can change over time and what happened to someone in one year may not apply in the next.

If in doubt declare to avoid any charge of deception.