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Disclosure Scotland or CRB

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:47 pm
by ssidd
Hello Guys,
Any body suggest me that which check I need to do for Traffic offence which ended in Magistrate court with FINE?

Friend of mine told me that Disclosure scotland mention all traffic offences...Is that true?

Regards
Sidd

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:23 pm
by BOSAAL
Thats true. I recently received my Disclosure Scotland and it has got the points and court fine mentioned on it for over speeding.

Re: Disclosure Scotland or CRB

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:44 pm
by Pqek
ssidd wrote:Hello Guys,
Any body suggest me that which check I need to do for Traffic offence which ended in Magistrate court with FINE?

Friend of mine told me that Disclosure scotland mention all traffic offences...Is that true?

Regards
Sidd
Get a SAR of the PNC from the police station of the area you live. I had a speed fine thru court shown in disclosure Scotland but clear SAR of PNC and my ILR sailed thru with no Problems.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:00 pm
by JohnM
Pqek, did you mention this fine on ILR application form? Did you tick the box that you have criminal conviction? Did you send your SAR report together with ILR application? Thank you.
I have exactly the same situation, going to apply for ILR soon, would be grateful for your advice. Thanks a lot!

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:40 am
by JohnM
Pqek, could you please reply.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:54 pm
by Pqek
JohnM wrote:Pqek, did you mention this fine on ILR application form? Did you tick the box that you have criminal conviction? Did you send your SAR report together with ILR application? Thank you.
I have exactly the same situation, going to apply for ILR soon, would be grateful for your advice. Thanks a lot!
I did mention my fine on the application and handover my SAR report with it. The caseworker also asked me for the counterpart of my driving license to verify I did not have any other offense.

Everything went well at the end.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:12 pm
by JohnM
Thank you very much. Did you attend the court in person or it was decided in your absence? The reason I ask, I got offence in Scotland and it may be just FPN, so I try to figure out if I should declare it in the form or not.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:27 pm
by JohnM
I found some info about Disclosure Scoland already on this forum. Basically, in answers a lot of questions and worries. DS stores all data which happened in Scotland, not only PNC / CRB record. So if it's not on ACRO / PNC but only on Disclosure Scotland, it means you simply had it recorded in Scottish law which has nothing to do with British ILR. Woooof, that's a relief.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... ic+offense

But still everybody advices to declare it, which means saying that you got conviction. Well there is some logic in it. You have little conviction which is not recordable, therefore it can not be ground for refusal for ILR. Yea, I finally understood everything I suppose. It is conviction in Scotland, you know you did it and you declare it. But it is not recorded on your criminal history in Britain, therefore UKBA can't refuse ILR based on this. I think it is also good idea to attach SAR / CRB to the application to help UKBA not to make any silly mistake.

P.S. Mine happened in Scotland. I'm not sure if DS shows non-Scottish offences so often too. But anyway, if it's in DS only, it's not criminal record.

Cheers.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:54 pm
by Pqek
John

Mine happened in Scotland as well and to answer to your question above, I did went to court and declared myself guilty but that does not make a difference. When you don't go and just send the paperwork you are admitting guilt already on paper. However, it's clear that this is treated as FPN.

If you are requesting a SAR, ensure you only tick the option of information in PCN. If you chose the option of information in the Scottish database you will get the same information you got in the disclosure Scotland.

Good luck!