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ILR-Continuation of lawful leave during absences from the UK

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:55 pm
by SVKPatil
Wish you a happy new year 2013. I have the below query regarding "Continuation of lawful leave during absences from the UK"

As per the latest document (Dec 2012) :

The continuous period is maintained if:

- The applicant leaves the UK with valid leave and re-enters the UK whilst that leave
remains valid, provided the absence(s) do not exceed 180 days in a relevant 12
month period.

So, my query is :

I have total of 94 days of absence in the 5 year period. Out of which 46 days are paid annual leaves.
The remaining 48 days , I have been transferred to the offshore (India) branch to complete an assignment and have drawn Indian salary for the 48 days.
My Tier-2 Visa was valid when I left the UK and re-entered again after 48 days.

- So am I eligible to apply for ILR? Can you kindly let me know as this is very important for me to
understand whether I am eligible or not before applying for ILR.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:04 pm
by Lucapooka
Why did you come off the UK payroll for the work done at the offshore branch? That now looks like a period of unpaid leave of more than one month.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:48 pm
by SVKPatil
Hi,

I was transferred to the Indian branch, later due to change in circumstances I came back to UK on the same VISA. So i was paid for 46 days in India during my 5 yr tenure. So can you please let me know whether this is allowed ? or will it be considered as a break in the continuous period.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:33 pm
by akash08
Mr Patil,

First thing to ask yourself is : how would UKBA know that you were on Indian payroll? They do not ask for payslips for all the 5 years. I am assuming this transfer did not happen within the period you have to show your payslips for. What gives them any reason to doubt you were not on UK Payroll for those days unless you yourself tell that? A law that can not be implemented is not a law. I do not see any problem any where unless of course you take a high standard of ethics and chat with the case worker and declare this !!

There has been enough confusion in this forum regarding this topic.. just declare these days as business trip and you would be absolutely fine!!

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:57 pm
by Lucapooka
As with any work-related absence, a letter will be required from the UK sponsor to say that your were working for them during that period of absence.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:43 pm
by SVKPatil
Thanks a lot Akash and Guru. I will get a letter from my emoyer to confirm that I was working with them. And also declare this as a business trip.
Is it a good idea to say business trip or unpaid holidays ? Please advice.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:45 pm
by Lucapooka
SVKPatil wrote:I will get a letter from my emoyer to confirm that I was working with them.
Are they prepared to make such a declaration in light of the facts to the contrary? It can't be classed as unpaid holiday, and this was the reason I posted in the first place, as it was for more than one month.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:25 am
by SVKPatil
Hi Guru,

When I left to India they have issued me a P45. And I am not sure whether they will give a letter saying it is business trip.. and I am not sure if it is acceptable also. Since I have a P45 when I left will it be treated as break ?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:09 am
by Lucapooka
If your company released you and issued you with a P45, and effectively stopped sponsoring your for a period of more than one month, they were obliged to report this to the UKBA under the Sponsorship management system.

It's not clear what has happened here, so it might be worth speaking to an immigration professional, who can contact your employer and hopefully resolve this matter.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:31 pm
by SVKPatil
Sure.. Thank you Guru

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:53 pm
by SVKPatil
Hi Guru's

Can you kindly clarify whether I can apply for ILR on OCT 2013 based on the below information please,

Enterted UK (Tier 2 General Visa) : 12 Oct 2008
Went back to India : 22 Feb 2009 . P45 is issued by my company when i left.
Re entered UK : on 11 Apr 2009 ( Same company .. same visa)
Continuous stay till now with 44 paid annual leave.

Can you kindly clarify whether the break I have between 22 Feb 2009 to 11 Apr 2009 (48 days) is allowed or not.

I have posted similar query earlier,, but this query has clear details. you help is most appreciated.

Many Thanks.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:08 pm
by wpilr_nov12
Your question has been sufficiently answered by Lucapooka 3 posts up.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:14 pm
by SVKPatil
Hi Guru,

can you please clarify on "speaking to an immigration professional"..
whom should I contact .. my queries to UKBA on the same returned with no answers :(

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:16 pm
by wpilr_nov12
SVKPatil wrote:Hi Guru,

can you please clarify on "speaking to an immigration professional"..
whom should I contact .. my queries to UKBA on the same returned with no answers :(
Immigration lawyers would be my preference. Unfortunately I cannot give you any contact details as I have none.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:31 pm
by SVKPatil
Hi Guru,

Thank you. I spoke to my company and they agreed to give me a letter which will state that my absence of 46 days was on a business visit to the same companies Indian branch and I was called back to UK after that assignment.

Will this be sufficient ? do you have any format for the letter that i can use.
Kindly reply as u r feedback is really valuable.

Many Thanks,
Vinay

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:04 pm
by wpilr_nov12
You went out of UK possessing a P45.

How would I know what is the best way to conceal/distort this fact, if that is what you want to do.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:41 pm
by SVKPatil
I just wanted to understand whether having P45 and working for the same company is considered as break ? Kindly reply

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:11 pm
by Lucapooka
It's not working for the same company. It's the same owner but the employing entities are incorporated in different countries. You should have remained with the UK subsidiary and continued to have been paid by that entity. You did not do this.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:33 am
by SVKPatil
OK .. Thank you Guru. I don't want to do any thing which is not legal. I will apply for my ILR in March 14 ( have continuous stay from Apr 09).

Thanks a lot for every one for their comments and help.

Cheers.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:13 pm
by vishal17jan
Hi People,

I just want to clarify regarding the continuous period for ILR.

Just think logically, previous rules says 180 days in total of 5 years and now how it can be 180 days in each year i.e 180*5 = 900 days out of UK in total of 5 years. How lienent can HO be from 180 days staright to 900 days.

I am on th same boat as you gusy are, out of Uk for more than 180 days in tier 1 G, and eligible so thinking either wait for another rule or agree with 180 days per year which I doubt the case is.

Can someone please throw some more light on this?

Thanks
V