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Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm
by MAH20
Dear All

I am applying for ILR on 5 year basis this month.I am a self-employed under 50K route.

My question is based on Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) of the Points Based System–Policy Guidance v 10/2019, page 29:

"(e) If you were self employed at the time a settled worker was employed by your business, you must provide evidence of your registration with HM Revenue and Customs showing your business was based in the UK and a personal bank statement showing all the payments made to the settled worker in the full period of employment used to claim points."

My first question is, "a personal bank statement showing all the payments made to the settled worker in the full period of employment" means I have to provide all my business bank account statements showing my payments to my employees?
I have a business bank account for my business.

2nd question: I have paid all the payments to my employees through my business bank account except 2 months that he asked to get cash. Is it a problem?

Many thanks for your advise.

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:04 am
by zimba
Are you a company director or registered as self employed ??! Remember working for your own company as a director is NOT self employment. Self employed have to be specifically registered with HMRC. If you actually registered as self employed and you are NOT a company director, then you must send 'personal or business' bank statements to show you made these payments including cash withdrawals

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:15 am
by MAH20
Many thanks Zimba for your answer,

I'm a self employed and registered with HMRC since 2014.

I've made all the payments to my employees by my business bank account except the last two payments to one employee (Ha has been working for 13 months and He is no longer works for me)

There are no cash withdrawals in my business or personal bank statements for this matter, I paid his 2 last salary with cash that I had in my hand.

So, based on your explanation, should I go to my bank branch and ask for cash (exactly equal to the amount of 2 wages)?

Is this the only way?

Not to mention that, He already emailed me that he received all his wages while he was working for me.

Really appreciate if you could advice me.

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:10 am
by MAH20
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:00 pm
by zimba
Cash in hand is fine as long as correct taxes are paid. You may have to explain this in a covering letter

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:01 pm
by MAH20
Zimba wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:00 pm
Cash in hand is fine as long as correct taxes are paid. You may have to explain this in a covering letter
Thanks a lot,

Can I ask you one more question, Regarding to NI 2 contribution. I am under £6,365 so I don't need to pay NI2. It's written on my TAX Return. Is that enough to submit TAX return to show I'm exempt?

CF10 Form is no longer available.

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:18 am
by zimba
Where in the requirement you should submit tax returns ?

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:04 am
by MAH20
Zimba wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:18 am
Where in the requirement you should submit tax returns ?
Ok there is no such requirement to submit Tax return but how can I show I am exempt to pay NI2?

A few member already got ILR refusal based on not submitting evidence for NI2

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Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:22 pm
by zimba
There is no such requirement at all. I repeat, where in the rules or guide this is required from you ??! Rules have changed in the last few years

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:17 pm
by MAH20
Zimba wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:22 pm
There is no such requirement at all. I repeat, where in the rules or guide this is required from you ??! Rules have changed in the last few years
Thanks, You are right, there is not such requirements for ILR application.

Could you please correct my list if I missed something?
(I am a self employed, registered with HMRC in 2014)

0)SET (o) form
1)Two passports (main & dependant)
2)Two photos for each one
3) 2 BRP
4) 2 Police registration
5) Cohabitation: EDF & THAMES WATER (both names are in the bills).a joint bank acc statements.
TV License, My son birth certificate (2016), two Nationwide accts statements. And all for 1 year
6) Previous passports
7) Life in the Uk & degree certificates

8)12 months business bank statements that shows all the payments to the employees.
9) P45, P60, all Payslips
10) RTI Summary
11)FPS + EPS
12)Hours workers
13)P11

14)Accountant Letter to confirm 2 full-time jobs creation
15)2 passport copy for my 2 settled worker
16)HMRC welcome letter (issued 2014)
17)Advertisements (Business card, Twitter, LinkedIn, website etc)
18) HMRC letter issued within the last 3 months.

And No personal bank statements.

Sorry, I know that I should created new topic for my new questions.
Really appreciate your help.

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:48 am
by zimba
It looks good to me

Re: Self employed 50k Tier1 E to ILR

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:08 am
by MAH20
Zimba wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:48 am
It looks good to me
Thanks a lot

ILR approved through Tier1 Entrepreneur 50K Self-Employed

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:30 pm
by MAH20
Finally I have received approval email (8/4/2020) for my ILR Set(o) 50k, thanks to Zimba & Marcnath for your help. Unlike the extension, it was quick.

Time line is as below

Initial Grant: Apr 2014
Extension Granted: Nov 2018 ( valid till Nov 2020, interview conducted)
ILR SET (O) submitted: 10/02/2020 (Self-employed)
Biometrics done (Sopra Steria Center, Croydon): 11/3/2020
Consideration email: Never

Below is my info that might be useful
Nature Business: IT
Work from Home (No office)

List of Documents:

0)SET (O) form
1) Two passports (main & dependant)
2) 2 Police registration
3) Cohabitation: EDF & THAMES WATER (both names are in the bills).a joint bank acc statements.
TV License, all for 1 year
4) Previous passports
5) Life in the Uk & degree certificates

6)12 months business bank statements that shows all the payments to the employees (It's essential for all self-employed )
7) P45, P60, all Payslips
8) RTI Summary
9)FPS + EPS
10)Hours workers
11)P11

12) Accountant Letter to confirm 2 full-time jobs creation (was optional for self employed)
13) 2 passport copy for my 2 settled worker
14) HMRC welcome letter (issued 2014)
15) Advertisements (Business card, Twitter, LinkedIn, website etc)
16) An HMRC letter issued within the last 3 months.

& in a profile, I explained job titles for mine & for 2 employees with a brief description.

No photos needed

Best of luck to everyone who are waiting :)

Re: ILR approved through Tier1 Entrepreneur 50K Self-Employed

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:21 pm
by wahmed786
Hi,

Congrats, I am surprised that UKVI is working under COVID19.

Again Congratulations

Re: ILR approved through Tier1 Entrepreneur 50K Self-Employed

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:08 pm
by MAH20
Hi, Thanks

Maybe they came to their senses ;)
Actually it was really a surprise.
They may work from home as all documents are available online.