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Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:20 pm
by ruzfactor
Good afternoon,

I am eligible for settlement through LR from 20 August, 2020 (28 days from 18/9/2020). I have few queries, if someone could please help answering these:
  • Is the 10 year continuous period from the first date of entry in UK or when the visa was valid from? My visa was valid from 24/8/2010 but I entered UK on 18/9/2010. I have calculated the eligibility based on the first entry date.
  • My current passport will expire on 7 October, 2020. Do I need to renew my passport? I mean, does the passport need to be valid for a minimum period e.g. six months? The renewal will take at least 2 months. :(
  • When can I start filling up the application? Does it have to be maximum of 28 days before or is it just the submission which cannot be done days before the 10 years?
Thanks in advance.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:27 pm
by CR001
  • Is the 10 year continuous period from the first date of entry in UK or when the visa was valid from? My visa was valid from 24/8/2010 but I entered UK on 18/9/2010. I have calculated the eligibility based on the first entry date.
It starts counting from the date you ENTERED the UK.
  • My current passport will expire on 7 October, 2020. Do I need to renew my passport? I mean, does the passport need to be valid for a minimum period e.g. six months? The renewal will take at least 2 months. :(
Your passport needs to be valid when you apply online and upload your documents. There is no 'must be valid for x months' requirement.
  • When can I start filling up the application? Does it have to be maximum of 28 days before or is it just the submission which cannot be done days before the 10 years?
The online form remains live for a few weeks before it is deleted. You can do a dummy app to see what is asked and then submit online and pay when you are eligible.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:08 pm
by ruzfactor
Thank you :)

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:18 am
by ruzfactor
This may sound a bit silly, but if the application is made 28 days prior to 10 years eligibility, do I still put 10 years for the following question:

How long have you lived in the UK?

Thanks.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:45 am
by zimba
ruzfactor wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:18 am
This may sound a bit silly, but if the application is made 28 days prior to 10 years eligibility, do I still put 10 years for the following question:

How long have you lived in the UK?

Thanks.
Not important

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:48 pm
by ragu_ram01
Hi All,

I have been living in UK in the past 10 years under Tier2 ICT and planning to apply ILR in 10 years long residency route by August 2020 (next month)

My family members will be completing 10 years in March 2021 and they will apply for ILR post February 2021, Currently we have Tier2 ICT valid until May 2021 including Tier2 ICT dependent visa for my family members.

My question here is:
1. If I obtain ILR on Aug 2020 and application is successful, can my family members (dependent) continue on the Tier 2 ICT dependent visa until February 2021, post that they will apply ILR?

OR

2. Does my family members need to apply for new dependent application under my ILR and apply ILR post Feb 2021?

Option 2 above costing more for me, Please advise.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:45 pm
by seagul
ragu_ram01 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Hi All,

I have been living in UK in the past 10 years under Tier2 ICT and planning to apply ILR in 10 years long residency route by August 2020 (next month)

My family members will be completing 10 years in March 2021 and they will apply for ILR post February 2021, Currently we have Tier2 ICT valid until May 2021 including Tier2 ICT dependent visa for my family members.

My question here is:
1. If I obtain ILR on Aug 2020 and application is successful, can my family members (dependent) continue on the Tier 2 ICT dependent visa until February 2021, post that they will apply ILR?

OR

2. Does my family members need to apply for new dependent application under my ILR and apply ILR post Feb 2021?

Option 2 above costing more for me, Please advise.
They can continue to live until their expiry and then proceed to set lr assuming have no plan of travelling outside of UK

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:54 am
by ruzfactor
With the premium/priority services currently suspended for settlement visa, I am in a dire strait. I am eligible for LR from 20 August 2020. If I apply with the standard service, it could take up to 6 months (considering the worst case scenario). My current Tier 2 expires on 16 January 2021. If I don't receive LR before then, my wife will be in trouble, and my daughter (10 months old) as well. My employment is contractual which expires on 2 January 2021.

I am perplexed by this situation, whether to apply with standard or wait for premium service (no indication when it will resume services). I had planned my application with the premium service in mind.

Any suggestion would be really appreciated. Thanks. :(

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:59 pm
by ruzfactor
I am bit confused with the following document requirements. Can someone please explain the following?

(1) Evidence you have to prove the relationship with Mrs XXXX (for example marriage certificates), and
correspondence addressed either to you jointly, or in both of your names, or addressed individually to you at the same address, to cover the last two years.
  • I will provide a copy of the marriage certificate. However, confused with the correspondence address. Will council tax letter/utility bill be acceptable? Do I have to provide for last two years?
(2) Proof of Mr XXXX's relationship status as the married or civil partner of Mrs XXXX
  • I am already providing marriage certificate in (1). But what other proof needs to be provided?
Thanks in advance.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:06 am
by CULLINAN
ruzfactor wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:59 pm
I am bit confused with the following document requirements. Can someone please explain the following?

(1) Evidence you have to prove the relationship with Mrs XXXX (for example marriage certificates), and
correspondence addressed either to you jointly, or in both of your names, or addressed individually to you at the same address, to cover the last two years.
  • I will provide a copy of the marriage certificate. However, confused with the correspondence address. Will council tax letter/utility bill be acceptable? Do I have to provide for last two years?
(2) Proof of Mr XXXX's relationship status as the married or civil partner of Mrs XXXX
  • I am already providing marriage certificate in (1). But what other proof needs to be provided?
Thanks in advance.
These questions are not relevant. For LR, you qualify on your own based on 10 years lawful stay. No relationship documents are needed. Sometimes the checklist generates generic documents, this is not needed in LR case.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:47 am
by ruzfactor
CULLINAN wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:06 am
ruzfactor wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:59 pm
I am bit confused with the following document requirements. Can someone please explain the following?

(1) Evidence you have to prove the relationship with Mrs XXXX (for example marriage certificates), and
correspondence addressed either to you jointly, or in both of your names, or addressed individually to you at the same address, to cover the last two years.
  • I will provide a copy of the marriage certificate. However, confused with the correspondence address. Will council tax letter/utility bill be acceptable? Do I have to provide for last two years?
(2) Proof of Mr XXXX's relationship status as the married or civil partner of Mrs XXXX
  • I am already providing marriage certificate in (1). But what other proof needs to be provided?
Thanks in advance.
These questions are not relevant. For LR, you qualify on your own based on 10 years lawful stay. No relationship documents are needed. Sometimes the checklist generates generic documents, this is not needed in LR case.
Thank you! :)

One more question though. I have a current passport and a previous one. Is it better to submit both in one document or individual is fine.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:07 am
by CULLINAN
One more question though. I have a current passport and a previous one. Is it better to submit both in one document or individual is fine.
I would recommend 1 PDF file/passport. This way you can manage the file size which should not be more than 6MB/file.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:33 am
by ruzfactor
Thanks! :)

I have almost completed filling my application. However, it does have a question which I am not sure about.

Do you have a previous visa, entry clearance or leave to remain where you had to prove your
knowledge of English?
Yes

Tell us the previous visa, entry clearance or leave to remain you had
Shall I put Tier 2 (as this is my current visa) or Tier 4 (this was my first visa when I entered UK for Master's degree)

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:03 am
by AmazonianX
ruzfactor wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:33 am
Thanks! :)

I have almost completed filling my application. However, it does have a question which I am not sure about.

Do you have a previous visa, entry clearance or leave to remain where you had to prove your
knowledge of English?
Yes

Tell us the previous visa, entry clearance or leave to remain you had
Shall I put Tier 2 (as this is my current visa) or Tier 4 (this was my first visa when I entered UK for Master's degree)
If you had to prove knowledge of English for both, put the most recent and explain in cover letter.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:14 am
by ruzfactor
AmazonianX wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:03 am
ruzfactor wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:33 am
Thanks! :)

I have almost completed filling my application. However, it does have a question which I am not sure about.

Do you have a previous visa, entry clearance or leave to remain where you had to prove your
knowledge of English?
Yes

Tell us the previous visa, entry clearance or leave to remain you had
Shall I put Tier 2 (as this is my current visa) or Tier 4 (this was my first visa when I entered UK for Master's degree)
If you had to prove knowledge of English for both, put the most recent and explain in cover letter.
When I first applied Tier 4, it required TOEFL/IELTS score. However, those scores are invalid now. But, for my 2nd Tier 4 and then the Tier 2 visa, Knowledge of English was based on the postgraduate degrees I have obtained.

Is it necessary to provide a cover letter, in general? Thanks.

Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:52 am
by ruzfactor
I have submitted my application. However, in the Sopra Steria website, the document upload section doesn't show any mandatory document options. Only available options are optional docs. Is this ok? Am I supposed to see any mandatory documents list? Thanks.


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Re: Long Residence Queries

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:24 pm
by seagul
ruzfactor wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:52 am
I have submitted my application. However, in the Sopra Steria website, the document upload section doesn't show any mandatory document options. Only available options are optional docs. Is this ok? Am I supposed to see any mandatory documents list? Thanks.


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All documents can even be subsumed under the option of "optional" as the most important thing is its successful uploading in full entirety.

SET LR escalation

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:06 pm
by ruzfactor
My time line is:
Application date and documents upload: 22/8/20
IDV app submission: 6/9/2020

My current visa (Tier 2 Gen.) expires on 16/1/2021. My wife is on Tier 2 dependant visa.

It seems the August applicants have started getting decisions. However, the timeline thread suggests most have done dual submission.

I am starting to get worried that if I don't get a decision (worst case scenario) before my visa expiry, my wife would have to leave UK (I also have a one year old daughter). It is also affecting my job applications (unable to prove my status), as my current contract finishes on 3/1/2021.

I know the standard decision time could be up to 6 months. But, my case is pretty straightforward. What would be the best way to escalate the application considering my circumstances: call HO or through MP? I am worried that if I leave it late, there won't be sufficient time to get a response from them. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:11 pm
by CULLINAN
Your wife can switch to FLR(M) before her visa expiry regardless of your approval or not. Her visa will only be approved when your ILR is approved first. She does not have to leave UK. Her ILR clock will reset to zero for 5 year route though.

Is your daughter born in UK?

Escalation will not help before 6 months are over.

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:40 pm
by poper
indefinite-leave-to-remain/lond-residen ... l#p1959615

18th August IDV only Set LR applicant received decision today. Hope this gives you some comfort

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am
by ruzfactor
CULLINAN wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:11 pm
Your wife can switch to FLR(M) before her visa expiry regardless of your approval or not. Her visa will only be approved when your ILR is approved first. She does not have to leave UK. Her ILR clock will reset to zero for 5 year route though.

Is your daughter born in UK?

Escalation will not help before 6 months are over.
Hi Cullinan, Thanks for the reply. Appreciate your advise as always. That's a relief for us if she can apply while my ILR decision is pending. I didn't know about this. Can she continue to work under Section 3C, for FLR(M) pending application?

Just a silly question though; If someone completes 5 yrs though Tier 2 dependant and then Tier 2 Gen, would that be eligible for 5 yr route ILR?

My daughter is born in UK.

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 am
by ruzfactor
poper wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:40 pm
indefinite-leave-to-remain/lond-residen ... l#p1959615

18th August IDV only Set LR applicant received decision today. Hope this gives you some comfort
Thanks. Just saw another case with IDV only submission. Fingers crossed!

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:51 am
by CULLINAN
ruzfactor wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am
Hi Cullinan, Thanks for the reply. Appreciate your advise as always. That's a relief for us if she can apply while my ILR decision is pending. I didn't know about this. Can she continue to work under Section 3C, for FLR(M) pending application?
She must apply before her visa expiry. As long she makes an in time application, she will be covered by Section 3C until a decision is made on her FLR(M) application. Her work rights will continue as same till then. As previously stated, her application will only be successful if your ILR is successful. Best to add a cover letter with her application also indicating that you applied for LR

Just a silly question though; If someone completes 5 yrs though Tier 2 dependant and then Tier 2 Gen, would that be eligible for 5 yr route ILR?
I am not sure what you mean by that. But you can not combine the time period for Tier 2 dep and Tier 2 G. You must complete 5 years residence on each category separately to qualify for ILR via that route. If you switch, ILR clock restarts from zero

My daughter is born in UK.
You can simply register your daughter as British Citizen after you have ILR. No need to apply any visa for her, her visa expiry is irrelevant for her entitlement to be registered as British Citizen after you have ILR

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:31 am
by ruzfactor
Thanks. Got my answers! :)

I guess if the 10yr route is completed before the 5 yrs spouse route for ILR, the reset of the clock will not affect that?

Re: SET LR escalation

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:46 am
by CULLINAN
ruzfactor wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:31 am
Thanks. Got my answers! :)

I guess if the 10yr route is completed before the 5 yrs spouse route for ILR, the reset of the clock will not affect that?
Yes she can apply via LR if that comes earlier. LR is based on 10 years lawful residence. ILR clock resets for 5 year route only after she switches to FLR(M).