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Mother is Irish Citezen

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:26 am
by christianoginni
My familly are all originally Nigerian, my mother is now an Irish Citizen and she has moved to England. I was born in England but I was legally not allowed to automatically get citezenship there I left England to Ireland when I was 4. I am now 19 and have moved back to England so I am now living with my mum. (I do not want Irish Naturalisation) I want English. I'm lead to believe that getting a residence card is the first thing I should do, but shouldnt the fact I was born in this country and have never been to Africa in my life allow me to automatically get my British passport? Maybe not but its not fair. I need help in what I should do now. Thanks
Other info: I was born in 1993 and currently have no right to work or study in the uk, I want to study

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 pm
by geriatrix
If you were born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983

Is your mother in the UK as a qualified EEA national? If so, you may apply for a residence card.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:09 pm
by christianoginni
sushdmehta wrote:If you were born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983

Is your mother in the UK as a qualified EEA national? If so, you may apply for a residence card.
Ye she is, thats what I thought. Cheers

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:58 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
If she is working in the UK, or is otherwise a qualified person, then you right now have a right to be in the UK and work.

Did you enter the UK together? If so, then your 5 year clock to PR likely began then.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:26 pm
by christianoginni
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:If she is working in the UK, or is otherwise a qualified person, then you right now have a right to be in the UK and work.

Did you enter the UK together? If so, then your 5 year clock to PR likely began then.
She is working here and has been living here for over a year now, I cam in to England only in June, so what your telling me is I have the right to work! :)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:33 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
You may need to prove it to your employer. But in the mean time you can work all you want without fear.

If June was your first entry into the UK, then your five year clock began then.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:35 pm
by christianoginni
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You may need to prove it to your employer. But in the mean time you can work all you want without fear.

If June was your first entry into the UK, then your five year clock began then.
Yh thats the tricky part how would I prove it? Would I have to bring my mothers passport or? Dont I need a National Insurance number to work? I applied for one and obviously I was declined how should I go about it?

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:38 pm
by christianoginni
christianoginni wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You may need to prove it to your employer. But in the mean time you can work all you want without fear.

If June was your first entry into the UK, then your five year clock began then.
Yh thats the tricky part how would I prove it? Would I have to bring my mothers passport or? Dont I need a National Insurance number to work? I applied for one and obviously I was declined how should I go about it?
p.s I came into uk with a familly visa and it expires November, does my 5 year clock still count?

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:51 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
You used to have two problems: what would I do if I get caught working illegally and how do I prove to an employer that I can work.

Now you just have just the second problem, since you can work legally.

You can apply now for a Residence Card. When that is processed you will get the COA which will confirm your right to work, and then the RC itself.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:53 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
Doesn't matter if you entered the UK with no visa. You are still the family member of an EU citizen. And so the clock started ticking on your legal residence from the moment you entered British airspace.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:59 pm
by christianoginni
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You used to have two problems: what would I do if I get caught working illegally and how do I prove to an employer that I can work.

Now you just have just the second problem, since you can work legally.

You can apply now for a Residence Card. When that is processed you will get the COA which will confirm your right to work, and then the RC itself.
Thanks very much :) Just one last thing sorry if you have already answered this, if I applied for a job and they asked my to bring proof of my ability to work what should I do? Or do I wait for residence card which takes up to 6 months

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:23 pm
by boloney
christianoginni wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You used to have two problems: what would I do if I get caught working illegally and how do I prove to an employer that I can work.

Now you just have just the second problem, since you can work legally.

You can apply now for a Residence Card. When that is processed you will get the COA which will confirm your right to work, and then the RC itself.
Thanks very much :) Just one last thing sorry if you have already answered this, if I applied for a job and they asked my to bring proof of my ability to work what should I do? Or do I wait for residence card which takes up to 6 months
apply for rc asap and wait for coa it should arrive in few weeks. Don't get me wrong but if you lived in ireland for that long why don't you apply for irish naturalization? It will make yours life much easier, and you will be able to apply for british one after five years on your own.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:26 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile
christianoginni asked
I don't think anyone has made a post about this, the form (EEA2) is confusing me. I am the non-EU applicant and my mother is the EU sponser for me.
Can someone please specify exactly which sections need to be completed by me and my mother. Correct me is I'm wrong:
Section 1 - By me
Section 2 No else in my family is applying
Section 3 - I think my mother does this
Section 4 - Not relevant to me
Section 5 - Not relevant to me
Section 6 - My mother is employed does she do this?
Section 7 - Not relevant to me
Section 8 - Confused
Section 9 - Confused
Section 10 - Ok

In my case can someone tell me exactly what documents I would need please. Thanks

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:27 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile
christianoginni wrote:
I don't think anyone has made a post about this, the form (EEA2) is confusing me. I am the non-EU applicant and my mother is the EU sponser for me.
Can someone please specify exactly which sections need to be completed by me and my mother. Correct me is I'm wrong:
Section 1 - By me
Section 2 No else in my family is applying
Section 3 - I think my mother does this
Section 4 - Not relevant to me
Section 5 - Not relevant to me
Section 6 - My mother is employed does she do this?
Section 7 - Not relevant to me
Section 8 - Confused
Section 9 - Confused
Section 10 - Ok

In my case can someone tell me exactly what documents I would need please. Thanks

Forget the form a minute.

Is the person an EU national? Yes, provide passport or ID card.
What does the EU national do? Works, great - provide evidence, eg employer's letter.
Is the family member related to that EU national? Yes, provide evidence, eg birth certificate in the case of a child.
Provide passport of the non-EU national
If under 21, no further evidence required.
If over 21, evidence of dependency on the EU national is required.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:28 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile
@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:55 pm
by christianoginni
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.
What are you talking about I accidently posted that in the wrong forum and was told by a moderator it was in the wrong forum so I posted it in the right one, it was the moderator who posted it into this thread not me so stuff your warning and get you facts right

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:06 pm
by christianoginni
christianoginni wrote:
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.
What are you talking about I accidently posted that in the wrong forum and was told by a moderator it was in the wrong forum so I posted it in the right one, it was the moderator who posted it into this thread not me so stuff your warning and get you facts right
can someone please tell me which sections need to be completed and by whom?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:22 pm
by Jambo
You got it right. The confused sections are not relevant in your case.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:40 pm
by christianoginni
Jambo wrote:You got it right. The confused sections are not relevant in your case.
Cheers thanks

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:41 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile
christianoginni wrote:
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.
What are you talking about I accidently posted that in the wrong forum and was told by a moderator it was in the wrong forum so I posted it in the right one, it was the moderator who posted it into this thread not me so stuff your warning and get you facts right
It was a polite request.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:41 pm
by geriatrix
christianoginni wrote:
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.
What are you talking about I accidently posted that in the wrong forum and was told by a moderator it was in the wrong forum so I posted it in the right one, it was the moderator who posted it into this thread not me so stuff your warning and get you facts right
That moderator asked you to post in the "existing topic". Another moderator did you a favor by posting your query where it should have been posted, and also responded to those queries.

Get the facts right, be respectful and drop the attitude!

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:09 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:45 pm
by christianoginni
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:
christianoginni wrote:
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.
What are you talking about I accidently posted that in the wrong forum and was told by a moderator it was in the wrong forum so I posted it in the right one, it was the moderator who posted it into this thread not me so stuff your warning and get you facts right
It was a polite request.
I apologise.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:39 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile
christianoginni wrote:
I apologise.
There is no need. You are welcome to post and hopefully there will always be people to answer you.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:53 am
by christianoginni
sushdmehta wrote:
christianoginni wrote:
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@christianoginni

It is important to post only one thread. Please consider this to be a polite warning.
What are you talking about I accidently posted that in the wrong forum and was told by a moderator it was in the wrong forum so I posted it in the right one, it was the moderator who posted it into this thread not me so stuff your warning and get you facts right
That moderator asked you to post in the "existing topic". Another moderator did you a favor by posting your query where it should have been posted, and also responded to those queries.

Get the facts right, be respectful and drop the attitude!
Yes I already apologised??