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Confusion re Home Office Cover Letter for PR card/document

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:34 pm
by ran
Hi all,

Hope your week is going well.

Recently, a client came to our advice centre enquiring about a Home Office Covering Letter which came with his passport (stamped with his PR visa) and supporting documents.
Just to give a bit of background - this person had gained his PR after retention of rights. He had directly applied for his PR earlier this year and had not separately applied for an EEA2 card through ROR.
The Home Office covering letter that came with his passport and PR visa does not mention anything about the directives under which the PR has been gained - it just says that they are returning all his documents and passport with his appropriate endorsement.

Going by the previous posts and information from this forum it seems that in case of an EEA2 application through ROR the HOme Office covering letter should mention that the person has retained his/her rights after divorce and the EEA2 vignette is an endorsement of that.
Is that the same for PR applications too (especially PR gained after ROR)? In other words should the Home Office letter in my client's case detail what endorsement he is got and under what directives?
If it is so then I presume the person needs to get back to his caseworker asking for a new letter.

Any advice would be much appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ran

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:53 pm
by Jambo
I hope you don't charge your clients for advice.

PR is PR is PR. Once obtained, the status is independent from the EEA national. There is no different vignette or letter.

For EEA2 the RC vignette is the same to all and states "family member of EEA national". That's why it is good to have the cover letter to be able to prove you have retained your rights (in case you are asked about your ex-spouse).

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:28 pm
by Oke1
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:18 pm
by ran
Hi guys,

Many thanks for your responses.

Jambo we are a small charity providing free family and social care advice :) of course we do not charge people. But many a times people come over with immigration inquiries which are beyond our remit! Also as you may know it is so difficult to find org providing free and PROPER immigration advice - I am most grateful to the members of this forum for the valuable advice they provide.

So just to conclude it is quite normal for Home Office to provide a generic cover letter for PR visa's. I totally get your point that after acquiring a PR visa the dependance on the EEA national is immaterial.
I was just a bit surprised that in the Home Office Letter that came with PR visa there was no mention that the endorsement is a PR visa let alone the mention of the directives under which it had been granted (PR after ROR).

Many thanks again.

Regards,
Ran

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:28 pm
by Amber
ran although I think you're doing a great job if you're a charity offering free advice (have worked in one for a number of years) you must be careful that if you are giving any immigration advice that you are registered/exempted at OISC level 1 (or higher) this should be free for you.

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:36 pm
by ran
Hi D4109125,

Thanks for your heads up - we are fully aware of that pitfall!
The official line we take is that we cannot advice regarding any immigration matters. We usually point them to this website or other organisations or forums specialising in immigration.

But I think it is always good to have an understanding of the broader aspects of many areas when one is working in social care.

Regards,
Ran

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:26 am
by Amber
Indeed, keep up the good work. You may also be interested in this case as it has a significant social welfare element.