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From 1st April 2014, it appears that Job seekers under EU law, will not be entitled to Housing benefit.

Furthermore the assessment for qualification as a worker under EU law, which will determine whether or not people are entitled to these benefits, will be made stricter aswell.

The more robust tests came into affect on 1st March 2014.

I personally don't like someone coming here and in 3 months claiming housing benefit and we tax payer need to pay for them
they should allow only if they paid enough tax or 2 years minimum wait

Most of the Brits fed up with immigration just because of this. my friends in USA and other countries laugh at this. UK is not a welfare state

Amber_ wrote:The more robust tests came into affect on 1st March 2014.

precisely. Thanks for pointing that out.

askmeplz82 wrote:I personally don't like someone coming here and in 3 months claiming housing benefit and we tax payer need to pay for them
they should allow only if they paid enough tax or 2 years minimum wait

Most of the Brits fed up with immigration just because of this. my friends in USA and other countries laugh at this. UK is not a welfare state

Nobody is saying UK is a welfare state, you can well keep that opinion to yourself, this is not the only country in the EU, the same things have been going on in other countries, Netherlands, France et al. Not much people will support people coming over to any country claiming benefit from a system which they haven't contributed, but to single out UK as if she were the only one affected by this is nonsense.

Further legal opinion suggests that the UK test for whether certain employment or amount earned qualifies someone under EU law, may well be unlawful, as it seeks to define a worker, based on national rules and norm, when this is strictly forbidden under EU law.

http://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/im ... erview.pdf

Obie wrote:Further legal opinion suggests that the UK test for whether certain employment or amount earned qualifies someone under EU law, may well be unlawful, as it seeks to define a worker, based on national rules and norm, when this is strictly forbidden under EU law.

http://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/im ... erview.pdf

That will be another nail in the EU coffin and make more Brits vote out. The Labour party have now said that they will offer the in out vote if people will elect them, just as Tories have already said if they are elected.

Britain may well leave the EU actually if it's good for them. The EU has been functioning well before the Brits applied to join, remember the French didn't want them in the EU and vetoed their membership? They couldn't care what the British want, you will know this by the comment made by Merkel and Hollande.

The CJEU has said the scope for determining a worker is the responsibility of the EU, member states cannot redefine the term of workers under national law. The UK should find a nondiscriminatory way of restricting social grants which will affect everyone including the Brits.

dalebutt wrote:Britain may well leave the EU actually if it's good for them. The EU has been functioning well before the Brits applied to join, remember the French didn't want them in the EU and vetoed their membership? They couldn't care what the British want, you will know this by the comment made by Merkel and Hollande.

The CJEU has said the scope for determining a worker is the responsibility of the EU, member states cannot redefine the term of workers under national law. The UK should find a nondiscriminatory way of restricting social grants which will affect everyone including the Brits.

A lot of us Germans would rather be with the Brits than the French. There are only three countries that pay for the EU, the rest take out more money than they put in to the EU. Germany pays the most for the running of the EU and the UK pays the second most. Despite years in the EU, France still take out more than they put in.

Don't expect Germany to keep paying for your country and make up the loss of the UK money, we are already bailing out the Euro. If the Brits money is lost then France will have to take a lot less out of the EU so they they too are at last paying to run the EU.

I do not agree with that statement, Britain is the third net contributor to the EU, Germany and France contribute more than they get back according to the reports. You are talking about Germany paying for some other EU countries you need to ask yourself how much the Germans get in return on investment? Or you think the Germans are too generous to be the European Santa claus? How much does the UK's membership of the EU brings to the economy everyday? Every country is in the EU for their benefit, I am not agreeing with the stereotype that one country bankrolls the other.

lets be pretty clear. Most and I repeat most, are self-sufficient. I have been in this country 15 years in various immigration capacities and never claimed anything. I worked for all I own since this is what I am taught from early age. The rest of discussion is really about failure of the authorities to set high entry barriers into welfare, which results in those GENUINELY IN NEED OF IT ,and when qualified, are not benefitting from it. imho

Parliamentary analysis of the changes to benefit entitlement for new migrant, and how these changes fits in with EU law.

Further amendmeto regulation 6, concerning workers who retain their status, and jobseekers, coming into effect on the 1st July 2014

See also Amendment to EEA regulations on worker status and job seeking.

I like that every one is for it but I personally know MANY brits who has NEVER work and they are on every possible benefits. No restriction.................

Most EU states operate their welfare systems on the basis of contributions, you pay in and if you get into difficulty you can claim something back. The UK has some that work like this but things like Housing Benefits are based on income not contributions. The UK is one of the only EU states where you can turn up and get a free house after just a few months of residency which creates a disproportionate draw from the poorer Eastern European countries. If the UK cannot under EU create a mechanism like other members have done which ensures you need to have lived there for a longer period of time then they would need to change their entire welfare model from a charity type one to an insurance type one.

The UK has a housing shortage as it is, the last thing people who are planning to come to the UK to contribute need is to have stringent new measures laid against us because of people who are not going to the UK to contribute.

bobbylad wrote:Most EU states operate their welfare systems on the basis of contributions, you pay in and if you get into difficulty you can claim something back. The UK has some that work like this but things like Housing Benefits are based on income not contributions. The UK is one of the only EU states where you can turn up and get a free house after just a few months of residency which creates a disproportionate draw from the poorer Eastern European countries. If the UK cannot under EU create a mechanism like other members have done which ensures you need to have lived there for a longer period of time then they would need to change their entire welfare model from a charity type one to an insurance type one.

The UK has a housing shortage as it is, the last thing people who are planning to come to the UK to contribute need is to have stringent new measures laid against us because of people who are not going to the UK to contribute.

Could you provide an official document to back up that claim? Another one who propbably bought a one way ticket from his country, and haven't been priviledged to see other European countries, you would probably think UK is heaven on earth. Germany, France, and many other EU countries provide non contributory housing benefit. I agree the United Kingdom benefit system is generous, some countries in the EU are even more generous and they aren't blowing it out of proportion.