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EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:43 pm
by gammavega
Does anyone if answering Yes to the below question will affect my application in any way?

9.16 If, at any point during the accession period, you/your sponsor worked without holding one of the documents listed in the table above, why was this?

Just to clarify, I have a 5 year period of working without the WRS before I completed my 12 months WRS period.

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:07 pm
by noajthan
gammavega wrote:Does anyone if answering Yes to the below question will affect my application in any way?

9.16 If, at any point during the accession period, you/your sponsor worked without holding one of the documents listed in the table above, why was this?

Just to clarify, I have a 5 year period of working without the WRS before I completed my 12 months WRS period.
What were your dates related to WRS?
There is an exemption if worked started before 2004 (or you were a dual national);
also WRS terminated in 2011

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:09 pm
by noajthan

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:12 pm
by gammavega
my question is about any work history prior to having a full 12 month WRS with one employer.
i have a long, 5year, period before my qualifying period that i worked without having a WRS cert. will this be frowned upon when applying for my PR?

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:22 pm
by noajthan
gammavega wrote:my question is about any work history prior to having a full 12 month WRS with one employer.
i have a long, 5year, period before my qualifying period that i worked without having a WRS cert. will this be frowned upon when applying for my PR?
I understood the question.
- if your dates happen to fall outside the range it won't matter - so do they?

And, thinking outside the box...
as per linked article, you do not need to apply on the latest official form;
- you can apply by letter or see if there is an earlier version of the form (with different questions) available in the Gov UK archive website.

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:43 pm
by gammavega
that's not a bad idea to use a different form or a letter.

regarding my dates:
18.06.2004 - 22.07.2005 - one employer, WRS application on 29. 07. 2005 - just a few days after the 30 day period (so angry!) WRS issued on 13.09.2005
then from 25.07.2005 till 08.09.2010 worked without re-registering for a number of employers (I misinterpreted the rules thinking I have completed the 12months)
26.10.2010 an agency made a registration on my behalf and I worked for them for 3 years.

so I am applying on the basis of the period starting 26.10.2010 but I am worried if the 5 years prior will mess things up.

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:09 pm
by noajthan
gammavega wrote:that's not a bad idea to use a different form or a letter.

regarding my dates:
18.06.2004 - 22.07.2005 - one employer, WRS application on 29. 07. 2005 - just a few days after the 30 day period (so angry!) WRS issued on 13.09.2005
then from 25.07.2005 till 08.09.2010 worked without re-registering for a number of employers (I misinterpreted the rules thinking I have completed the 12months)
26.10.2010 an agency made a registration on my behalf and I worked for them for 3 years.

so I am applying on the basis of the period starting 26.10.2010 but I am worried if the 5 years prior will mess things up.
As you started work after April 2004 you are correct you were supposed to register for WRS.

Unfortunately, by not re-registering when you changed jobs means you didn't complete 12 months under the scheme, & so your PR clock may not have started until WRS was terminated (April 2011).
That means you may not have acquired PR yet - until April/May 2016.

So even avoiding the question by using another version of the form or applying by letter may not help you.

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:43 pm
by gammavega
My PR clock started again on 26.10.2010 when i (agency) reaplied. This would mean I completed 12 months in October 2011 as I stayed with that employer for 3 years.

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:51 pm
by noajthan
gammavega wrote:My PR clock started again on 26.10.2010 when i (agency) reaplied. This would mean I completed 12 months in October 2011 as I stayed with that employer for 3 years.
If you had registered late and then stayed registered continuously you might have been ok.

But unfortunately, due to the earlier registration & then not re-registering with subsequent employers, you/your employer rendered your registration null & void.

My understanding is the time won't be counted as legal work.
So your PR clock will only have been started when WRS ended (2011).

Re: EEA PR - Question 9.16

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:45 pm
by Mala123
Good evening,

gammavega can you please advise how is your application process going?

noajthan - do you think HO will just ignore the period which wasn't covered by WRS when application is posted to them after April 2016? How to answer this question 9.16?

Please advise :)