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precisely. Thanks for pointing that out.Amber_ wrote:The more robust tests came into affect on 1st March 2014.
Nobody is saying UK is a welfare state, you can well keep that opinion to yourself, this is not the only country in the EU, the same things have been going on in other countries, Netherlands, France et al. Not much people will support people coming over to any country claiming benefit from a system which they haven't contributed, but to single out UK as if she were the only one affected by this is nonsense.askmeplz82 wrote:I personally don't like someone coming here and in 3 months claiming housing benefit and we tax payer need to pay for them
they should allow only if they paid enough tax or 2 years minimum wait
Most of the Brits fed up with immigration just because of this. my friends in USA and other countries laugh at this. UK is not a welfare state
That will be another nail in the EU coffin and make more Brits vote out. The Labour party have now said that they will offer the in out vote if people will elect them, just as Tories have already said if they are elected.Obie wrote:Further legal opinion suggests that the UK test for whether certain employment or amount earned qualifies someone under EU law, may well be unlawful, as it seeks to define a worker, based on national rules and norm, when this is strictly forbidden under EU law.
http://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/im ... erview.pdf
A lot of us Germans would rather be with the Brits than the French. There are only three countries that pay for the EU, the rest take out more money than they put in to the EU. Germany pays the most for the running of the EU and the UK pays the second most. Despite years in the EU, France still take out more than they put in.dalebutt wrote:Britain may well leave the EU actually if it's good for them. The EU has been functioning well before the Brits applied to join, remember the French didn't want them in the EU and vetoed their membership? They couldn't care what the British want, you will know this by the comment made by Merkel and Hollande.
The CJEU has said the scope for determining a worker is the responsibility of the EU, member states cannot redefine the term of workers under national law. The UK should find a nondiscriminatory way of restricting social grants which will affect everyone including the Brits.
Could you provide an official document to back up that claim? Another one who propbably bought a one way ticket from his country, and haven't been priviledged to see other European countries, you would probably think UK is heaven on earth. Germany, France, and many other EU countries provide non contributory housing benefit. I agree the United Kingdom benefit system is generous, some countries in the EU are even more generous and they aren't blowing it out of proportion.bobbylad wrote:Most EU states operate their welfare systems on the basis of contributions, you pay in and if you get into difficulty you can claim something back. The UK has some that work like this but things like Housing Benefits are based on income not contributions. The UK is one of the only EU states where you can turn up and get a free house after just a few months of residency which creates a disproportionate draw from the poorer Eastern European countries. If the UK cannot under EU create a mechanism like other members have done which ensures you need to have lived there for a longer period of time then they would need to change their entire welfare model from a charity type one to an insurance type one.
The UK has a housing shortage as it is, the last thing people who are planning to come to the UK to contribute need is to have stringent new measures laid against us because of people who are not going to the UK to contribute.
