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If i can show third party support only then I would be able to qualify A-B =c adequate fundsazka wrote:I have applied on the basis of 10 year long residency still waiting for reply as rules are changing 6th april 2014 I am going to apply FLR M for my wife, her application fall under the old rules which allow her to include third party support.
in December I brought £ 10000 pound from Pakistan to buy a new car, I Deposit £ 10000 pounds in bank
Question I want to ask you from senior Members can I show this money as a third party support??? if answer is yes how and where exactly I can show this money??? is it Section 7B ??? if this is section 7b should I write £10000 or Do I have to show as weekly along with my 1375 PCM salary
please suggest me
kind regards
Judge can accept any out of time appeals on their own discretion and grant the appeals, but HO will treat it as overstay time even if judge has accepted the appeal. You can read further here,scorpio81 wrote:khani wrote:Well, This could put your application in difficult position, HO could render all the period you waited form out of time appeal to decision as illegal stay since you submitted your appeal out of time. I dont know if the 28 days concession on out of time application applies to pending appeals too or not. Hope for the best. Wish you goodluck.scorpio81 wrote:Dear Forum Members
I have recently applied for my ILR on the basis of Long Residence. Following is my history
Entered UK 9th March 2004
6 years student+2 years psw
2 years spent awaiting decision on tier 1 entrepreneur application under 3C and 3D (1 year app in process and 1 year in appeal)
All extension applications were IN TIME.
Appeal from upper tribunal got rejected on 24th February 2014. In the appeal refusal letter the judge mentioned 5 different factors for refusal, including mentioning the previous decisions made by the 1st tier judge. One of the point was:-
"The appellants seek permission to appeal six days out of time against the dismissal of their appeals against the respondents refusal to grant them tier 1 entrepreneur status . Their representatives ascribe the delay to a change of representation".
My question is that will these 6 days delay effect my lawful stay in the UK.?
The judge did not dismiss the appeal on the basis of out of time application, he took all other reasons into consideration as well. but he did mention this 6 days out of time factor as well. I changed my representative so it took them time to apply.
Is it the judges discretion to allow or disallow out of time appeals, if there is a reason behind applying late.?
Thanks
Well the situation is that the last date to apply to upper tribunal was 21st January 2014. The Upper Tribunal received my appeal on the 27th January 2014, with an explanation from my representative saying that because i change representative hence it took some days to go through the process.
In the meantime my employer wrote to the home office to confirm my right of work in the UK (1st week of February 2014). My employer got a letter from the Home Office on the 7th February 2014, saying that i have the right to work in the UK on the basis of an ongoing outstanding appeal.
Hence i think this clarifies that after the tribunal received my appeal, the judge accepted it on the basis that because i changed representative, hence i was 6 days late, so that accepted it. Because if it would not have been accepted OR stated OUT OF TIME, then the UKBA would have had said to my employer that i do not have the right to work.? (overstay).
I think that its judges discretion, if they want to accept late appeals, with a valid reason they can. Because the judge did not refuse my appeal on the basis of out of time, he refused it saying that there is no error of law. Hence the 24th February would be considered as the time when all my appeals were exhausted.
What do experienced people in this forum think about this.?
Thanks
SSWSZ wrote:Malavan wrote:Hi guys,
I'm a new member in this website and gonna submit my application next month based on 10years HO rules.
Just few questions and I appreciate if you reply:
1. I noticed that HO gonna make some changes from 6th of April, what this changes will effect us?
2. My wife came to UK Oct 2007 and I was wondering can I submit an application for her as well or not? If not what type application will I have to submit for her when I had my ILR (inshalah)?
you can apply your wife with you by using form FLR(m) .the new rules mean your wife has to wait for 5 more years to get ILR as who are applying after 6 April should apply using appendix FM means income threshold +5 years residential requirement as spouse of settled person.but I still wonder student are not allowed to work or they can work part time how they will full fill income threshold .wait for some senior member and they will ans you.
3. Im on tier4 student visa and what will happen if I withdraw the course when my application is in HO for process?
im sure many people discussed these questions before but unfortunately as im a new in the board I couldn't find my answers and I confused more.
I've heard there is some link we can update our state and see other people's time line but I couldn't find either. I appreciate it if you could send me that link as well.
Again in advance thanks for your help and advise and hopefully all of us will be free soon!
not really sure what do you mean by the £10000 as third party support. if you still have the amount in a bank account under your name which can be accessed immediately then i think you might just want to write it down in the FLR(M) form p.30 (and show it in your bank statement).azka wrote:If i can show third party support only then I would be able to qualify A-B =c adequate fundsazka wrote:I have applied on the basis of 10 year long residency still waiting for reply as rules are changing 6th april 2014 I am going to apply FLR M for my wife, her application fall under the old rules which allow her to include third party support.
in December I brought £ 10000 pound from Pakistan to buy a new car, I Deposit £ 10000 pounds in bank
Question I want to ask you from senior Members can I show this money as a third party support??? if answer is yes how and where exactly I can show this money??? is it Section 7B ??? if this is section 7b should I write £10000 or Do I have to show as weekly along with my 1375 PCM salary
s
thanks ahyang0129 I mean by £ 10000 pounds I brought it from pakistan to buy a car which I deposited in bank then I bought a car £ 8500 after one month, As you suggested my wife can say on page 30 we have got third party support of £ 10000 pounds as an evidence bank statement attached showing money came in Do I have to mention for what reason that money was , now money has been spent on buying a car ???ahyang0129 wrote:not really sure what do you mean by the £10000 as third party support. if you still have the amount in a bank account under your name which can be accessed immediately then i think you might just want to write it down in the FLR(M) form p.30 (and show it in your bank statement).azka wrote:If i can show third party support only then I would be able to qualify A-B =c adequate fundsazka wrote:I have applied on the basis of 10 year long residency still waiting for reply as rules are changing 6th april 2014 I am going to apply FLR M for my wife, her application fall under the old rules which allow her to include third party support.
in December I brought £ 10000 pound from Pakistan to buy a new car, I Deposit £ 10000 pounds in bank
Question I want to ask you from senior Members can I show this money as a third party support??? if answer is yes how and where exactly I can show this money??? is it Section 7B ??? if this is section 7b should I write £10000 or Do I have to show as weekly along with my 1375 PCM salary
s
If accept that you were overstay 6 days but when court accept your out of time appeal you were covered by 3c or 3d. Its mean you were overstay only 6 days. If we think optimistically HO gives the concession of 28 days overstay as per rule.khani wrote:Well, This could put your application in difficult position, HO could render all the period you waited form out of time appeal to decision as illegal stay since you submitted your appeal out of time. I dont know if the 28 days concession on out of time application applies to pending appeals too or not. Hope for the best. Wish you goodluck.scorpio81 wrote:Dear Forum Members
I have recently applied for my ILR on the basis of Long Residence. Following is my history
Entered UK 9th March 2004
6 years student+2 years psw
2 years spent awaiting decision on tier 1 entrepreneur application under 3C and 3D (1 year app in process and 1 year in appeal)
All extension applications were IN TIME.
Appeal from upper tribunal got rejected on 24th February 2014. In the appeal refusal letter the judge mentioned 5 different factors for refusal, including mentioning the previous decisions made by the 1st tier judge. One of the point was:-
"The appellants seek permission to appeal six days out of time against the dismissal of their appeals against the respondents refusal to grant them tier 1 entrepreneur status . Their representatives ascribe the delay to a change of representation".
My question is that will these 6 days delay effect my lawful stay in the UK.?
The judge did not dismiss the appeal on the basis of out of time application, he took all other reasons into consideration as well. but he did mention this 6 days out of time factor as well. I changed my representative so it took them time to apply.
Is it the judges discretion to allow or disallow out of time appeals, if there is a reason behind applying late.?
Thanks
Well the situation is that the last date to apply to upper tribunal was 21st January 2014. The Upper Tribunal received my appeal on the 27th January 2014, with an explanation from my representative saying that because i change representative hence it took some days to go through the process.scorpio81 wrote:Dear Forum Members
I have recently applied for my ILR on the basis of Long Residence. Following is my history
Entered UK 9th March 2004
6 years student+2 years psw
2 years spent awaiting decision on tier 1 entrepreneur application under 3C and 3D (1 year app in process and 1 year in appeal)
All extension applications were IN TIME.
Appeal from upper tribunal got rejected on 24th February 2014. In the appeal refusal letter the judge mentioned 5 different factors for refusal, including mentioning the previous decisions made by the 1st tier judge. One of the point was:-
"The appellants seek permission to appeal six days out of time against the dismissal of their appeals against the respondents refusal to grant them tier 1 entrepreneur status . Their representatives ascribe the delay to a change of representation".
My question is that will these 6 days delay effect my lawful stay in the UK.?
The judge did not dismiss the appeal on the basis of out of time application, he took all other reasons into consideration as well. but he did mention this 6 days out of time factor as well. I changed my representative so it took them time to apply.
Is it the judges discretion to allow or disallow out of time appeals, if there is a reason behind applying late.?
Thanks
i didn't say "you have got third party support" and i still don't understand why you say that the £10000 is of third party support. is that money not under your name so not under your own control?azka wrote:thanks ahyang0129 I mean by £ 10000 pounds I brought it from pakistan to buy a car which I deposited in bank then I bought a car £ 8500 after one month, As you suggested my wife can say on page 30 we have got third party support of £ 10000 pounds as an evidence bank statement attached showing money came in Do I have to mention for what reason that money was , now money has been spent on buying a car ???ahyang0129 wrote:not really sure what do you mean by the £10000 as third party support. if you still have the amount in a bank account under your name which can be accessed immediately then i think you might just want to write it down in the FLR(M) form p.30 (and show it in your bank statement).azka wrote:I have applied on the basis of 10 year long residency still waiting for reply as rules are changing 6th april 2014 I am going to apply FLR M for my wife, her application fall under the old rules which allow her to include third party support.
in December I brought £ 10000 pound from Pakistan to buy a new car, I Deposit £ 10000 pounds in bank
Question I want to ask you from senior Members can I show this money as a third party support??? if answer is yes how and where exactly I can show this money??? is it Section 7B ??? if this is section 7b should I write £10000 or Do I have to show as weekly along with my 1375 PCM salary
If i can show third party support only then I would be able to qualify A-B =c adequate funds
Judge can accept any out of time appeals on their own discretion and grant the appeals, but HO will treat it as overstay time even if judge has accepted the appeal. You can read further here,msmussaf wrote:Well the situation is that the last date to apply to upper tribunal was 21st January 2014. The Upper Tribunal received my appeal on the 27th January 2014, with an explanation from my representative saying that because i change representative hence it took some days to go through the process.scorpio81 wrote:Dear Forum Members
I have recently applied for my ILR on the basis of Long Residence. Following is my history
Entered UK 9th March 2004
6 years student+2 years psw
2 years spent awaiting decision on tier 1 entrepreneur application under 3C and 3D (1 year app in process and 1 year in appeal)
All extension applications were IN TIME.
Appeal from upper tribunal got rejected on 24th February 2014. In the appeal refusal letter the judge mentioned 5 different factors for refusal, including mentioning the previous decisions made by the 1st tier judge. One of the point was:-
"The appellants seek permission to appeal six days out of time against the dismissal of their appeals against the respondents refusal to grant them tier 1 entrepreneur status . Their representatives ascribe the delay to a change of representation".
My question is that will these 6 days delay effect my lawful stay in the UK.?
The judge did not dismiss the appeal on the basis of out of time application, he took all other reasons into consideration as well. but he did mention this 6 days out of time factor as well. I changed my representative so it took them time to apply.
Is it the judges discretion to allow or disallow out of time appeals, if there is a reason behind applying late.?
Thanks
In the meantime my employer wrote to the home office to confirm my right of work in the UK (1st week of February 2014). My employer got a letter from the Home Office on the 7th February 2014, saying that i have the right to work in the UK on the basis of an ongoing outstanding appeal.
Hence i think this clarifies that after the tribunal received my appeal, the judge accepted it on the basis that because i changed representative, hence i was 6 days late, so that accepted it. Because if it would not have been accepted OR stated OUT OF TIME, then the UKBA would have had said to my employer that i do not have the right to work.? (overstay).
I think that its judges discretion, if they want to accept late appeals, with a valid reason they can. Because the judge did not refuse my appeal on the basis of out of time, he refused it saying that there is no error of law. Hence the 24th February would be considered as the time when all my appeals were exhausted.
What do experienced people in this forum think about this.?
Thanks
scorpio81 wrote:msmussaf wrote:scorpio81 wrote:Dear Forum Members
I have recently applied for my ILR on the basis of Long Residence. Following is my history
Entered UK 9th March 2004
6 years student+2 years psw
2 years spent awaiting decision on tier 1 entrepreneur application under 3C and 3D (1 year app in process and 1 year in appeal)
All extension applications were IN TIME.
Appeal from upper tribunal got rejected on 24th February 2014. In the appeal refusal letter the judge mentioned 5 different factors for refusal, including mentioning the previous decisions made by the 1st tier judge. One of the point was:-
"The appellants seek permission to appeal six days out of time against the dismissal of their appeals against the respondents refusal to grant them tier 1 entrepreneur status . Their representatives ascribe the delay to a change of representation".
My question is that will these 6 days delay effect my lawful stay in the UK.?
The judge did not dismiss the appeal on the basis of out of time application, he took all other reasons into consideration as well. but he did mention this 6 days out of time factor as well. I changed my representative so it took them time to apply.
Is it the judges discretion to allow or disallow out of time appeals, if there is a reason behind applying late.?
Thanks
congrats whwn did you applysmileybee wrote:Thank God. I have received my documents back with an approval letter. Just waiting for biometric card now. Praise the Lord
Congrats enjoy your freedomsmileybee wrote:Thank God. I have received my documents back with an approval letter. Just waiting for biometric card now. Praise the Lord
Heyyyy congratulations......Hopefully you are smilling now .........Hope we will get our docs soon...smileybee wrote:Thanks thank.
I applied on 10th of dec 2013
Biometric done on 9th of Jan 2014
Then received documents today and biometric should be later today according to dx
Good luck to others
GOd Helps wrote:congrats whwn did you applysmileybee wrote:Thank God. I have received my documents back with an approval letter. Just waiting for biometric card now. Praise the Lord