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from Jan 2010- 2013
My paternal grandmother was Irish. In 1992, my father submitted documentation to the Irish Embassy in India..and after 2 years my entire family gained Irish passports. So we moved to the UK in 1994 under Irish passports, and 2 years later the UK government claim fraud. Apparently our grandmother supposedly died at 1 year of age in Ireland. The death certificate of the 1 year old shown has the same date of birth, but not the same name as the name on the birth certificate. First name and middle name was reversed. Yet the records we showed had marriage certificate of our grandmother, her uncle's death certificate in India, even her death certificate, including a direct photocopy from the burial grounds' death records. So after years, I was granted discretionary leave, and then in 2013, I found further evidence online that actually supports my case against the Irish DFE. Travel documents by ship of my grandmother's mother along with a baby daughter and so on. Ancestry DNA tests have proved I have an Irish grandparent. So I reapplied for a copy of my Irish FBR, got it and then reapplied for an Irish passport. They asked for further documents, including the long form certificate and such..so currently that is taking a while.CR001 wrote:So you have no legal status in the UK now?
How do you qualify for an Irish passport? Where do you live or are you based?
CR001 wrote:Where do you live or are you based?
In the UK. Been here since 1994 CONTINUOUSLY!CR001 wrote:CR001 wrote:Where do you live or are you based?
On what basis did your family get British passports? I would have presumed that all of you would have gone through the same process.RJ1955 wrote:My entire family has been granted UK passports but me.
I have been writing to the Irish DFE and especially it's FBR section to sort my case out. They have already proved their incompetence. For instance, on one of the grounds I was declared a fraud is that they could not locate my parents' marriage details in the state they got married in India. I had to reply that if they had actually bothered to read the document, it clearly states they were married in a different state to where they were living. I have produced my Irish grandmother's death certificate, including a photocopy from the 'death book of records', her mother's travel records by ship from the UK and all their case is based on is that they have a death certificate of a child matching my grandmother's details (ie same parents and date of birth). The twist is this death certificate has my grandmother's first name as her middle name and middle name as first name. In essence it's like stating someone named David James is James David. That is literally all they have. Yet I've produced multiple documents from churches and state governments in India, where my family moved during the British Raj, showing otherwise. Even just a look at myself and my family demonstrates that ethnically we are 'white'. One would think that genetics matched to multiple records would bring about some common sense, but I guess not.Obie wrote:If you have been successfully added to the Foreign birth register and the issue of fraud has been resolved in your favour, then you have been living here lawfully . You are an EEA national and don't require leave. The UK was wrong to get involved, and if the Irish Government thought it was fraud, there is a process for revoking Irish citizenship or passport , which was not followed here.
If you are Irish, you cannot apply for ILR. If you had Irish passport you would have lost Indian nationality as a consequence.
You must right to the Department of Justice or contact the Irish Embassy to ascertain what's happening.