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Post by paulp » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:04 am

In my layman's opinion, one does paperwork and deals with clients, while the other argues cases in court.

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Post by Sweethina99 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:23 am

hi there
as i promised that i will keep all members informed of my case so here i go.
as i applied for ILR it was refused after 21 days for the following reasons.
1.secretary of state is not satisfied that i have spend continous 5 years on workpermit category
2.i have breached the law as said that i was doing another employment which i should not have done according to my workpermit conditions.

so these are only 2 objections that they have made.as you can notice that my thought for"out of time application" has been put aside and some new objections have been made .nevertheless frst objection is pointless as the letter of curtailment clearly states that i m considered as workpermit holder till my last day which was in oct 2007.

but for the second objection i would like to say that if m not doing another employment so from where m gonna eat and how m gonna live without money .is home office responsible for my living expenses.

Now coming to the point,it also states that i m liable to be removed and i should leave the country as soon as possible.so my solicitor suggested to either leave country or second option is that he is going to inform home office that i m forwarding this case to my local MP and now MP is gonna write a letter for reconsideration to home office and tell them that they should respong within 3 months.if home office considered it withing 3 months either positive its well n good but if not than m gonna book my seats for the very next month after their reply.

so that was the whole story ,i hope you liked it :lol:

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Post by Sweethina99 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:26 am

comments are requested from the members please.
one more thing i have also heard of case exercise resolution,can anyone tell me what is that n what is the procedure??
or if i go to judicial review will it be helpful or not and what will be the procedure for that.??

thankyou once again.

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Post by Jeff Albright » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:54 am

Hey, yes we truly enjoyed your story but still sorry to hear the outcome.

Yes you have breached the workpermit conditions and there is nothing much you can do than to accept the decision and leave the country.

It is not relevant why you breached your conditions, what is relevant is the fact. At the end of the day, your financial issues are not the Secretary of State responsibility - you chose the employment you have been doing, you chose the country you were going to (which is very expensive indeed) so you should have planned all your life accordingly. The fact of the matter is that according to the Rules you could only work within the employment for which the Work Permit was issued and this is not arguable.

Suggest you now make arrangements for the departure and if you would like to return, then consider your options and chose the category in accordance with your circumstances.

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Post by paulp » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:09 am

Sweethina, it's getting from worse to worst. It was a very long shot to apply for ILR but now, it's time to look elsewhere.

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Post by Sweethina99 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:52 am

i know its getting from worse to worst..

can anyone tell me plz about the judicial review or the case resolution exercise??
thanks.

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Post by paulp » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:58 am

The case resolution exercise is for the huge backlog of asylum cases and Judicial Review is a process whereby the courts can reverse a BIA decision if they have not followed the law or their own rules.

In your case, neither applies to you.

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Post by Sweethina99 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:39 am

hmmm i c..alright no problem then..

i will book my seats defntly now..no problem as i said earlier that getting away from here without taking chance will increase the wish in my heart that if i would have applied what whould have happend...so now i m now here wid the result...

will keep in touch n thanks mates...
special thanks to Paulp, victoria and all the gurus and all the members who just read and learned frommy case.
Thanks alot guys..very helpful forum :)

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Re: correspondence with work permit after visa cutailed.plz

Post by aaa123 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:05 pm

Sweethina99 wrote:hi there

i enterd UK in sept 2000 on a 2 year student visa which was then converted into WP visa in sept. 2002. this WP visa from my employer was initially applied for 1 year which was valid till sept 2003..in sept 2003 my employer again applied for a 5 year WP visa which was approved. so in total i had 6 year WP visa which was going to expire in aug 2008.

My ILR was due in sept 2007 but unfortunately my employment ended prematurely in may 2007 and my employer also informed the home office after which home office sent me a letter asking for my n my dependents passports.. i informed home office in writing that im applying for another workpermit within 28 days so they agreed..

in that time i applied for workpermit through another employer but it was refused and i was given another 28 days to apply for fresh workpermit since then i applied for WP three times and 1 time reviewed it but it got refused until dec 2007.

in the mean time in sept home office send me another letter saying that my leave to remain as a WP holder has been curtailed from aug 2008 to 12th OCT 2007. unluckily my previous landlord scanned me that letter the very last day which was 12th OCT 2007. i ddnt get bothered as i was thinking that m still in correspondence with WP people but upon my final refusal from WP people when i get back to my lawyer he said that u have been overstaying since two months over here..

one thing more that i have been in full time time employoment since aug 2007. the leave is not curatiled over my passport .it still says that i ve valid visa till aug 2008. but the letter says dat my leave has been curtailed till 12 th OCt 2007.

i dunno what to do now as whole of my 7 years will be wasted in a single go..i cudnt get to any end ..what shall i do ..plz someone tell me about this case.
Why were the work permits refused!!???

Well the thing ask your employer engage a nice work permit consultant and let them sort the work permit out for you...and that would be an out of country work permit application....so best of luck with that...

concerning applealing try contact Bernard Andonian (immigration lawyer and judge) you could find his details on google search he might be able to help you....and also try David Webb (again google search)....and yes Best of Luck with that.....

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Post by Sweethina99 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:43 pm

i havent been given any chance of appeal so how would these people be helpful to me.??

workpermits were refused because of mishandling of the applications for the workpermit.1st time we applied in wrong category second time advertisemnet was not given and third time review was suggested and fourth time they were not satisfied that a genuine vacancy existed .

Only God knows these people.

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Post by paulp » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:31 pm

aaa123, it's a bit late now. An immigration consultant would have been most useful when sweethina was applying for the work permits.

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Post by aaa123 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:43 pm

paulp wrote:aaa123, it's a bit late now. An immigration consultant would have been most useful when sweethina was applying for the work permits.
but still there is no harm in consulting the lawyers I mentioned....they are good ...get an initial advice, for free, and judge if it is worth going ahead or not........I wish you best of luck mate....yeap its right that luck plays bad sometimes and if does then it plays terrible.....anyway best of luck sweethina....

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Post by paulp » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:11 pm

aaa123 wrote:but still there is no harm in consulting the lawyers I mentioned....they are good ...get an initial advice, for free, and judge if it is worth going ahead or not........I wish you best of luck mate....yeap its right that luck plays bad sometimes and if does then it plays terrible.....anyway best of luck sweethina....
By all means, give them a call. But sweethina has tried all that she could.

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Post by Sweethina99 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:15 pm

HOOOOOOOO!!! :shock:

i called them n they charging tooooooooo much for initial advices. i asked if they dont charge me any money and see what happens than m happy to give them their fees but they say no its part of our consultation..

well
i dont think its a good idea..really. :(
m wondering where the GURUs have been ???

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Post by paulp » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:47 pm

You mean mods? Because aaa123 advertised the free initial consultation of these guys when it's not free?

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Post by Sweethina99 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:14 pm

yup right paulp...

one of them charging double than normal lawyers charge for initial consultation...

ahem ahem!!! :?

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Post by VictoriaS » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:11 pm

Crikey! I thought that everyone gave initial advice for free these days.

Perhaps it is just me....



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Post by paulp » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:14 pm

VictoriaS wrote:Crikey! I thought that everyone gave initial advice for free these days.

Perhaps it is just me....

Victoria
Get on with the times, Victoria! Stop trying to help people and start making money. :twisted:

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Post by Sweethina99 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:43 pm

hahahahah :lol:
dats funny :wink:

well person also said that he thinks that he could do anythig for me for which he wants me to go to his office for initial consultation but as far as i know on this board no one of the gurus or senior member knows anything that could be done so i rely pretty much on this board other than going to some one@s office and wasting a three hundred and fifty pounds in one go which could help me buying my flight tickets :wink:

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Post by aaa123 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:55 pm

paulp wrote:You mean mods? Because aaa123 advertised the free initial consultation of these guys when it's not free?
Come on do not put it on me....I was just helping the chap...nothing bad intended.....right the thing is tell them your problem and ask if it is worth proceeding with it......see what they say...i am sure they would not charge you for this......if they look really optimistic then assess if you.wanna go with them.....so best of luck

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Post by aaa123 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:58 pm

Sweethina99 wrote:hahahahah :lol:
dats funny :wink:

well person also said that he thinks that he could do anythig for me for which he wants me to go to his office for initial consultation but as far as i know on this board no one of the gurus or senior member knows anything that could be done so i rely pretty much on this board other than going to some one@s office and wasting a three hundred and fifty pounds in one go which could help me buying my flight tickets :wink:
By the way I like the positive attitude of yours towards the situation.....

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Post by VictoriaS » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:29 pm

paulp wrote:

Get on with the times, Victoria! Stop trying to help people and start making money. :twisted:
That's funny. That's just what I get told by...

My mum
My boyfriend
My Dad
My business parter!

Perhaps it's time I started listening!


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Post by Sweethina99 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:31 pm

we are not putting it on you but the fact it he said first you have to come and pay then we will c what we can do>>>so its pointless asking them that if something could be done why wont u charge after looking into the case instead they asking just enter the door pay the cheque and make a que with others if we can do something than fine if we cant tata bye bye :?:

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Post by paulp » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:41 pm

On a serious note, it used to be taken for granted that sollicitors, accountants, and immigration consultants would give an initial free consultation of 30 minutes to discuss the merits of the case (whether it's worth it to proceed). However, I've been hearing from many people that that's no longer the case.

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Post by a12345 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:42 pm

VictoriaS wrote:
paulp wrote:

Get on with the times, Victoria! Stop trying to help people and start making money. :twisted:
That's funny. That's just what I get told by...

My mum
My boyfriend
My Dad
My business parter!

Perhaps it's time I started listening!


Victoria
No offence Victoria....

I used to think you were a guy...i mean male.....again no offence :roll:

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