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Honeymoon on UK Fiance Visa?

Post by avocado » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:01 pm

Hi there,

I was wondering if someone could give me some indication of whether my fiance can travel on the UK fiance visa so that we can have our honeymoon after we're married. I'd heard that you can as long as you do it before the 6 months are up. Is this correct? And if so, is there a government/visa site that states it?



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Post by John » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:56 pm

A UK fiancée visa is multi-entry. Therefore there is no problem her re-entering the UK at the end of the honeymoon .... as long as that is before the expiry date of the visa, of course. Multi-entry? Are they still putting "MULT" on visas?

But you don't say to where the honeymoon will be? Or indeed your fiancée's nationality. The point is that whilst she might not have a problem re-entering the UK, she might need a visa in order to travel to the country of the honeymoon.

For example, if the honeymoon is in a Schengen area country and her nationality dictates that she will need a Schengen visa to enter, that visa would need to be applied for prior to the wedding (assuming the honeymoon will immediately follow the wedding) and therefore at the time of applying for that Schengen visa she will not be a Family Member of an EU Citizen. She will therefore need to pay for the visa and indeed provide all the information the embassy/consulate requires in connection with that application.
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Post by Kayalami » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:43 pm

John wrote:A UK fiancée visa is multi-entry. Therefore there is no problem her re-entering the UK at the end of the honeymoon .... as long as that is before the expiry date of the visa, of course. Multi-entry? Are they still putting "MULT" on visas?
Slight correction,

The fiance visa is only valid to enter or re-enter the UK prior to a marriage taking place. Once you are married it is invalidated/ has no effect i.e. it is no longer valid for re-entry into the UK.

If you want to go on honeymoon post your UK marriage get your spouse to apply for further leave to remain in the UK using Form FLR(M). If successful a 2 year visa will be granted. This 2 yr visa can be used to re-enter the UK within its validity pursuant to the relevant relatiosnhip subsisting. If you depart the UK before obtaining the 2 yr visa then your spouse must apply for such at a British Diplomatic Post overseas. Your spouse if a non visa national may exceptionally be allowed re-entry as a visitor but unless there are compelling reasons its not worth the risk.

All UK visas issued at a British Diplomatic Post are by default multi entry unless otherwise exceptionally endorsed as single entry by the Entry Clearance Officer - such is usually for transit purposes.

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Post by avocado » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:41 am

My fiance is from New Jersey, US. We were thinking of going to southern Spain or France or somewhere in mainland Europe for the honeymoon.

So basically, what you're saying is that in order for us to have a honeymoon after we're married we would have to apply for the "further leave to remain FLR(M)" and have that accepted before travelling ?!?!

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Post by avocado » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:48 am

I didnt want for us to book a destination, go away on honeymoon (while still on the fiance visa) and try to return, only to be denied entry back into the UK.

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Post by Kayalami » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:37 pm

avocado wrote:My fiance is from New Jersey, US. We were thinking of going to southern Spain or France or somewhere in mainland Europe for the honeymoon.

So basically, what you're saying is that in order for us to have a honeymoon after we're married we would have to apply for the "further leave to remain FLR(M)" and have that accepted before travelling ?!?!
I believe what I said was that the fiance visa is no longer valid to re-enter the UK post marriage. I then explained an option you could consider based on the limited information you provided.
avocado wrote:I didnt want for us to book a destination, go away on honeymoon (while still on the fiance visa) and try to return, only to be denied entry back into the UK.
You need to decide where you and your spouse intend to live..this appears to be the US presumably on the basis of a pending immigrant visa to the US - is this a spousal/IR sponsorship?

You can inform the Immigration Officer at the UK Port of Entry that your spouse wishes to enter the UK as a visitor. As a USC she has the benefit of being able to travel to the UK as a visitor without obtaining a visa beforehand. However entry as a visitor requires that such is of a temporary nature and that there are compelling reasons for you to return to your home country. Does your spouse have such ties in the US e.g. full time employment, immediate family, property etc. On paper she has a distinctly compelling tie to the UK (a British spouse) so may very well likely overstay. The Immigration Officer may or may not allow her entry. Such cannot be appealed against. Further any FLR application to a spouse from a visitor status would fall for refusal - again this cannot be appealed.

If you are going through a DCF process note that 'visitor' status in the UK for the USC irrespective of length of overall stay is not considered residence.

Good Luck

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