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Please help me make sense of this paragraph - residency

Post by tresgoya » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:38 pm

I do understand the words (see text at the very end of the post), but I am still confused about the below extract in the naturalisation guide.

I'm an EU citizen, got my permanent residency back in Nov 2016 and now applying for naturalisation.

So, if I submitted my application on the 1st of April 2019, do I need to show I exercised treaty rights from 01.04.2014, 01.04.2013 or count it from my permanent residency, i.e. Nov 2011.

Or is this for people who already have the 5+1 year but get the permanent residency after?

Also a couple of of other Qs- in terms of supporting docs and absences. The home office said I needed to send in everything that I had sent in for the perm res application, which would be supporting docs starting from 2011. Aren't I suppose to just send in 5 year's worth of docs counted from my naturalisation application, i.e. from 2014?

I am from an A8 country and my years prior to 2011 didn't count because I wasn't on the scheme. So technically was I in an immigration breach and can they count that against me during the naturalisation application, though I did get the perm res? The guide says that immigration breaches can be counted back to 10 years from the naturalisation application.

When you apply for a permanent residence document the evidence that you supply
for your EEA(PR) application must be for a 5-year period that ended at least a year
before you want to apply for citizenship. (This is not the case if you are married to or
the civil partner of a British citizen).
For example: If you apply for Permanent Residence on 1 January 2019 and want to
apply for citizenship once that application is decided, you should provide evidence
that shows you were exercising Treaty rights as a qualified person or family member
from 1 January 2013 to 1 January 2018. For information about permanent residence
and whether you qualify see our website.

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Re: Please help me make sense of this paragraph - residency

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:49 pm

tresgoya wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:38 pm
I do understand the words (see text at the very end of the post), but I am still confused about the below extract in the naturalisation guide.

I'm an EU citizen, got my permanent residency back in Nov 2016 and now applying for naturalisation.

So, if I submitted my application on the 1st of April 2019, do I need to show I exercised treaty rights from 01.04.2014, 01.04.2013 or count it from my permanent residency, i.e. Nov 2011. You show residency not exercise of treaty rights, from 1.4.2014. This is not repeating the PR application.

Or is this for people who already have the 5+1 year but get the permanent residency after?

Also a couple of of other Qs- in terms of supporting docs and absences. The home office said I needed to send in everything that I had sent in for the perm res application, which would be supporting docs starting from 2011. Aren't I suppose to just send in 5 year's worth of docs counted from my naturalisation application, i.e. from 2014? Not sure where that advice comes from, but submit P60 or employers letters or self-assessment returns covering the five years.

I am from an A8 country and my years prior to 2011 didn't count because I wasn't on the scheme. So technically was I in an immigration breach and can they count that against me during the naturalisation application, though I did get the perm res? The guide says that immigration breaches can be counted back to 10 years from the naturalisation application.

When you apply for a permanent residence document the evidence that you supply
for your EEA(PR) application must be for a 5-year period that ended at least a year
before you want to apply for citizenship. (This is not the case if you are married to or
the civil partner of a British citizen).
For example: If you apply for Permanent Residence on 1 January 2019 and want to
apply for citizenship once that application is decided, you should provide evidence
that shows you were exercising Treaty rights as a qualified person or family member
from 1 January 2013 to 1 January 2018. For information about permanent residence
and whether you qualify see our website.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Please help me make sense of this paragraph - residency

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:50 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:49 pm
tresgoya wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:38 pm
I do understand the words (see text at the very end of the post), but I am still confused about the below extract in the naturalisation guide.

I'm an EU citizen, got my permanent residency back in Nov 2016 and now applying for naturalisation.

So, if I submitted my application on the 1st of April 2019, do I need to show I exercised treaty rights from 01.04.2014, 01.04.2013 or count it from my permanent residency, i.e. Nov 2011. You show residency not exercise of treaty rights, from 1.4.2014. This is not repeating the PR application.

Or is this for people who already have the 5+1 year but get the permanent residency after?

Also a couple of of other Qs- in terms of supporting docs and absences. The home office said I needed to send in everything that I had sent in for the perm res application, which would be supporting docs starting from 2011. Aren't I suppose to just send in 5 year's worth of docs counted from my naturalisation application, i.e. from 2014? Not sure where that advice comes from, but submit P60 or employers letters or self-assessment returns covering the five years since 1.4.2014.

I am from an A8 country and my years prior to 2011 didn't count because I wasn't on the scheme. So technically was I in an immigration breach and can they count that against me during the naturalisation application, though I did get the perm res? The guide says that immigration breaches can be counted back to 10 years from the naturalisation application. not sure about this

When you apply for a permanent residence document the evidence that you supply
for your EEA(PR) application must be for a 5-year period that ended at least a year
before you want to apply for citizenship. (This is not the case if you are married to or
the civil partner of a British citizen).
For example: If you apply for Permanent Residence on 1 January 2019 and want to
apply for citizenship once that application is decided, you should provide evidence
that shows you were exercising Treaty rights as a qualified person or family member
from 1 January 2013 to 1 January 2018. For information about permanent residence
and whether you qualify see our website.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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