Can I study full time master degree with Tier 1 visa???

sasawat · Post by **sasawat** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:52 am

Guys, does anyone know if tier 1 visa general can study full time master degree in the UK? Do I need to apply for student visa? thanks

kingfahad35 · Post by **kingfahad35** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:02 am

u can study

pencillin · Post by **pencillin** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:44 am

You're not supposed to study full time with a tier-1 visa, you can only do part time. You might get away doing full time on tier 1 but I don't see a good reason to take the risk.

confusedhsmp · Post by **confusedhsmp** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:05 am

WHAT THE HELL!!!

GUys please think and use common sense before you answer.

YOU CAN STUDY FULL TIME ON TIER 1...ITS YOUR FUCKIN* HUMAN RIGHT!!! COMMON SENSE...

As long as you will be able to earn required amount for extension it is absolutely fine.

pencillin You need your F*ing brain fixed

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:52 am

haha, someone hasnt had their coffee this morning - not that i disagree with the feelings.

so what about if u have extension already that will see u through until ILR...and u take up full time study but do a couple of shifts a week at Maccas just to fulfill the 'economically active' part of ILR.

Not what im doing at the moment, but quite like the idea of taking time off fulltime work and studying (and doing minimal work for ILR reasons only) for 6 months or so

Post by **ChetanOjha** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:06 pm

I think you can study fulltime on Tier 1 but college/university may ask you to prove that you are not going to leave the course inbetween. which means they may ask you to show valid visa for the duration of the course. Please remember there are many cases where people take admission in college(part-time) and work full time (in shops/pizza delivery) etc and enjoy life on student visa.

Also, you might want to consider your financial activity for your ILR.

pencillin · Post by **pencillin** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:05 pm

12.3 - What type of entry clearance to give wrote:- 12.3.1 Mandatory entry clearance requirement for students
From 1 September 2007, it is a mandatory requirement that non-EEA nationals seeking entry to the UK for the purpose of study, obtain prior entry clearance as a student before arriving in the UK. See also Paragraph 12.25 below on the mandatory entry clearance requirement for prospective students.

The only exceptions are those who are:

* British Nationals (Overseas)
* British Overseas Territories Citizens
* British Overseas Citizens
* British Protected Persons
* British Subjects under the British Nationality Act 1981

You can NOT study full time while on Tier-1 visa or you *might* be considered in breaching of immigration laws. You are however free to do part-time study.

Tier-1 visa is for people who come here to be economically active, if you wish to pursue full time study you have to apply for STUDENT VISA if you're not an EEA citizen or one from exceptions above.

confusedhsmp wrote:WHAT THE HELL!!!

GUys please think and use common sense before you answer.

YOU CAN STUDY FULL TIME ON TIER 1...ITS YOUR FUCKIN* HUMAN RIGHT!!! COMMON SENSE...

As long as you will be able to earn required amount for extension it is absolutely fine.

pencillin You need your F*ing brain fixed

confusedhsmp, Get your facts right before insulting people, And please CONVERT to a human before talking about human rights, I would suggest reading some books about good behaviours,dialogs, arguments although I suspect it will help in your case. No wonder you are confused!

rizwan567 · Post by **rizwan567** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:23 pm

confusedhsmp wrote:WHAT THE HELL!!!

GUys please think and use common sense before you answer.

YOU CAN STUDY FULL TIME ON TIER 1...ITS YOUR FUCKIN* HUMAN RIGHT!!! COMMON SENSE...

As long as you will be able to earn required amount for extension it is absolutely fine.

pencillin You need your F*ing brain fixed

I endorse the comments of confusedhsmp.

nionlight · Post by **nionlight** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:36 pm

pencillin wrote:
12.3 - What type of entry clearance to give wrote:- 12.3.1 Mandatory entry clearance requirement for students
From 1 September 2007, it is a mandatory requirement that non-EEA nationals seeking entry to the UK for the purpose of study, obtain prior entry clearance as a student before arriving in the UK. See also Paragraph 12.25 below on the mandatory entry clearance requirement for prospective students.

The only exceptions are those who are:

* British Nationals (Overseas)
* British Overseas Territories Citizens
* British Overseas Citizens
* British Protected Persons
* British Subjects under the British Nationality Act 1981
You can NOT study full time while on Tier-1 visa or you *might* be considered in breaching of immigration laws. You are however free to do part-time study.

Tier-1 visa is for people who come here to be economically active, if you wish to pursue full time study you have to apply for STUDENT VISA if you're not an EEA citizen or one from exceptions above.

confusedhsmp wrote:WHAT THE HELL!!!

GUys please think and use common sense before you answer.

YOU CAN STUDY FULL TIME ON TIER 1...ITS YOUR FUCKIN* HUMAN RIGHT!!! COMMON SENSE...

As long as you will be able to earn required amount for extension it is absolutely fine.

pencillin You need your F*ing brain fixed
confusedhsmp, Get your facts right before insulting people, And please CONVERT to a human before talking about human rights, I would suggest reading some books about good behaviours,dialogs, arguments although I suspect it will help in your case. No wonder you are confused!

so does this mean people in PSW visa can not study full time? and they need to get seperate entry clearance for study full time? or since a student came intially as a student covers it up?

nksg · Post by **nksg** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:21 pm

I am not an expert but i think you can study full time on HSMP/T1. One of my mate completed his masters degree in the first year of his T1 and used 8 months income to get the extn in Feb 09.. if what ever pencillin is pointing to is the case he would not have got the extn...

I think as long as you can achieve the threshold of extn.. in the last year on your Visa, you can study ...

sasawat · Post by **sasawat** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:04 pm

thanks guys, let me make it clear once again.
1. If I study on the first year (full time) and thereafter I work and earnn money enough to extend for another 2 years, upon completing 5 years period, can I still apply for ILR?
2. What if I work in at evening like restaurant and am able to study full time? will there be any issues when I apply for extension?

the visa doesn't mention anything and seems like it allows us to do anything so...

thanks everyone for your posts.

rizwan567 · Post by **rizwan567** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:48 pm

sasawat wrote:thanks guys, let me make it clear once again.
1. If I study on the first year (full time) and thereafter I work and earnn money enough to extend for another 2 years, upon completing 5 years period, can I still apply for ILR?
2. What if I work in at evening like restaurant and am able to study full time? will there be any issues when I apply for extension?

the visa doesn't mention anything and seems like it allows us to do anything so...

thanks everyone for your posts.

Getting ILR and extension are two separate things. In your original post you asked for extension not ILR.

To qualify for extension you need to claim 75 points regardless of the fact you are studying or working. HO is only interested in seeing if you score 75 points? if you score 75 points while studying then you get the extension.

Getting ILR is different issue. For ILR you need to show what you been doing for the last 5 years on T1. If studying full time is economic activity then you will get it.. Else you can have slight problems at the time of applying ILR. I will recommend you to work part time during your studies or get registered as self employed person for the duration of your course.

Hope this helps

maheshnair · Post by **maheshnair** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:05 am

confusedhsmp wrote:WHAT THE HELL!!!

GUys please think and use common sense before you answer.

YOU CAN STUDY FULL TIME ON TIER 1...ITS YOUR FUCKIN* HUMAN RIGHT!!! COMMON SENSE...

As long as you will be able to earn required amount for extension it is absolutely fine.

pencillin You need your F*ing brain fixed

did you have vodka or jack daniels buddy ...cool ur head ....World is not gonna end now...

sasawat · Post by **sasawat** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:04 am

Guys, thanks so much for your promt response. Last favour, has anyone been doing part-time master degree in the UK with tier 1 visa??? need your advice cuz I will follow your approach. thanks

vagabond4life · Post by **vagabond4life** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:51 pm

confusedhsmp wrote:WHAT THE HELL!!!

GUys please think and use common sense before you answer.

YOU CAN STUDY FULL TIME ON TIER 1...ITS YOUR FUCKIN* HUMAN RIGHT!!! COMMON SENSE...

As long as you will be able to earn required amount for extension it is absolutely fine.

pencillin You need your F*ing brain fixed

COMMON SENSE IS THAT SENSE THAT IS NOT COMMON - anonymous

LankanFunkin · Post by **LankanFunkin** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:39 pm

@ConfusedHSMP: LOL. Love the outburst. I feel like that sometimes on this forum.

Sasawat:

If you already have a Tier 1 visa, I dont see any visa issues with you working on your Masters. HOWEVER, keep in mind that your Tier 1 visa was issued in the economic interest of the UK. You are not going to pull the wool over the HO eyes when it comes to ILR by taking a low income part time job to show "economic activity". The HO has set the bar at GBP20,000 for granting a Tier 1 visa, so you better make sure that while you are doing your Master's degree, you are still making in excess of 20 grand each year. If I were you, I'd concentrate on getting/keeping a well paying job, and work on my Masters part time.

republique · Post by **republique** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:48 pm

LankanFunkin wrote:@ConfusedHSMP: LOL. Love the outburst. I feel like that sometimes on this forum.

Sasawat:

If you already have a Tier 1 visa, I dont see any visa issues with you working on your Masters. HOWEVER, keep in mind that your Tier 1 visa was issued in the economic interest of the UK. You are not going to pull the wool over the HO eyes when it comes to ILR by taking a low income part time job to show "economic activity". The HO has set the bar at GBP20,000 for granting a Tier 1 visa, so you better make sure that while you are doing your Master's degree, you are still making in excess of 20 grand each year. If I were you, I'd concentrate on getting/keeping a well paying job, and work on my Masters part time.

However, when applying for ILR, he doesn't have to make a certain amount, does he? So why not in the spirit of the purpose of the visa, you can study fulltime. just be careful when you cross the border that you dont trip yourself up when the IO asks you what you are doing.

Post by **push** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:53 pm

republique wrote:
LankanFunkin wrote:@ConfusedHSMP: LOL. Love the outburst. I feel like that sometimes on this forum.

Sasawat:

If you already have a Tier 1 visa, I dont see any visa issues with you working on your Masters. HOWEVER, keep in mind that your Tier 1 visa was issued in the economic interest of the UK. You are not going to pull the wool over the HO eyes when it comes to ILR by taking a low income part time job to show "economic activity". The HO has set the bar at GBP20,000 for granting a Tier 1 visa, so you better make sure that while you are doing your Master's degree, you are still making in excess of 20 grand each year. If I were you, I'd concentrate on getting/keeping a well paying job, and work on my Masters part time.
However, when applying for ILR, he doesn't have to make a certain amount, does he? So why not in the spirit of the purpose of the visa, you can study fulltime. just be careful when you cross the border that you dont trip yourself up when the IO asks you what you are doing.

Agree

LankanFunkin · Post by **LankanFunkin** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:22 pm

republique wrote:just be careful when you cross the border that you dont trip yourself up when the IO asks you what you are doing.

Agreed!

Side story: I was recently made redundant, so I took the oppotunity to travel. Coming back into UK, for a laugh, I put "Retired Stockbroker" on the Job field of the landing card. One of the IOs I encountered got it, and we had a 5 minute chit chat right there at the desk about the economy and the job market etc. The other time (and obviously a different IO), I got a boat load (or plane load?) of attitude, with snarky questions like "This is a economic visa, why arent you working?". Christ, some people dont have a sense of humour!

republique · Post by **republique** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:54 pm

LankanFunkin wrote:
republique wrote:just be careful when you cross the border that you dont trip yourself up when the IO asks you what you are doing.
Agreed!

Side story: I was recently made redundant, so I took the oppotunity to travel. Coming back into UK, for a laugh, I put "Retired Stockbroker" on the Job field of the landing card. One of the IOs I encountered got it, and we had a 5 minute chit chat right there at the desk about the economy and the job market etc. The other time (and obviously a different IO), I got a boat load (or plane load?) of attitude, with snarky questions like "This is a economic visa, why arent you working?". Christ, some people dont have a sense of humour!

Ok it is good to have a sense of humour
but that is an official document so best to write whatever your profession is even if you are not working.
You dont want to get to ILR and have the ho say you wrote on your landing card something contradictory to the terms of the visa so you are rejected

LankanFunkin · Post by **LankanFunkin** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:27 pm

republique wrote: You dont want to get to ILR and have the ho say you wrote on your landing card something contradictory to the terms of the visa so you are rejected

Point taken!

Post by **ChetanOjha** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:48 pm

Guys,

If somebody is being granted visa for specialised skills, shouldn't he be doing job in those areas only? I have an impression that if you are granted visa for some specialist skills (e.g. IT or some other), you have to work in those skills only to get an extension and produce appropriate documents@the time of extn. If I have being granted visa for my IT skills HO may reject my extension if I show earning from part-time job(e.g. restaurant etc.). Thats the whole point of highly skilled visas.

Hence, I think showing appropriate earning for the sake of earning may not suffice.

Post by **ChetanOjha** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:53 pm

Sasawat,

I am planning to take admission for part-time masters this year. I have HSMP visa so far and awaiting my extension. After which I will be applying for college. My college timings will be during weekends so I do not have to worry about working late during weekdays.

You can definitely study part-time on HSMP/Tier1/WP as this is to enhance you skills so you can contribute more to the economy. Hope this would be helpful.

sasawat wrote:Guys, thanks so much for your promt response. Last favour, has anyone been doing part-time master degree in the UK with tier 1 visa??? need your advice cuz I will follow your approach. thanks

nksg · Post by **nksg** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:07 am

Guys,

I have completed my msaters degree (PT) while on WP/HSMP. There was no issue at the time of initial HSMP or extn to T1.

Cheers.

chetanojha wrote:Sasawat,

I am planning to take admission for part-time masters this year. I have HSMP visa so far and awaiting my extension. After which I will be applying for college. My college timings will be during weekends so I do not have to worry about working late during weekdays.

You can definitely study part-time on HSMP/Tier1/WP as this is to enhance you skills so you can contribute more to the economy. Hope this would be helpful.

sasawat wrote:Guys, thanks so much for your promt response. Last favour, has anyone been doing part-time master degree in the UK with tier 1 visa??? need your advice cuz I will follow your approach. thanks

jjkumar_73 · Post by **jjkumar_73** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:27 pm

Hi Chetan,

Good idea to do Masters....
Can you please share some details you have gathered for doing weekend partime courses in Masters.... in London...

Wld be of great help to all...

Thanks,
Jay

chetanojha wrote:Sasawat,

I am planning to take admission for part-time masters this year. I have HSMP visa so far and awaiting my extension. After which I will be applying for college. My college timings will be during weekends so I do not have to worry about working late during weekdays.

You can definitely study part-time on HSMP/Tier1/WP as this is to enhance you skills so you can contribute more to the economy. Hope this would be helpful.

sasawat wrote:Guys, thanks so much for your promt response. Last favour, has anyone been doing part-time master degree in the UK with tier 1 visa??? need your advice cuz I will follow your approach. thanks

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