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problem with salary slips- Urgent

Post by merci » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:40 pm

Hi
Today our tier 1 extension application is rejected due to my company pays
weekly but issues the salary slips monthly.
The net amount in my statement and salary slip does not match.

In that case,
Is my company can replace my old monthly salary slips with weekly basis issued back dated .
Do you think it is just a mistake and reversible or
it is a kind of mistake which is unreversible.

Is it too complicated, the guy who is responsible of that refusing to be helpful.

Regards
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Re: problem with salary slips- Urgent

Post by tvn_ramesh » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:49 pm

merci wrote:Hi
Today our tier 1 extension application is rejected due to my company pays
weekly but issues the salary slips weekly.
The net amount in my statement and salary slip does not match.

In that case,
Is my company can replace my old salary slips into weekly basis,
Do you think it is just a mistake and reversible or
it is a kind of mistake which is unreversible.

Is it too complicated, the guy who is responsible of that refusing to be helpful.

Regards
Can you get a Letter from you Employer on the company Letter head with the Weekly Salay with GROSS SALARY-Net Salary-Tax-Date Credited...

With the Net salary matching exactly with those in the Bankstatements credited..

In this case you dont need to provide payslips.. Give it go..

Please check chetan's sticky for Employer Letter format
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=46010

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Post by merci » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:52 pm

how is it going to be

they need to calculate each weeks gross payment, tax payments and net payment then am I right

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Post by tvn_ramesh » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:58 pm

merci wrote:how is it going to be

they need to calculate each weeks gross payment, tax payments and net payment then am I right
Sorry in my earlier msg i meant 4weekly not weekly..

Yes, since they can pay your 4weekly and deposit the NET Salary for 4weekly they should be able to calculate the GROSS-NET-Tax etc. also

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:42 pm

The OP, as he mentions in another thread, gets paid weekly but receives monthly payslips.

So, unless his employer issues weekly payslips to match his weekly salary credits, he is stuck! And, IMHO, no employer will issue back-dated payslips ... and that too 52 (weekly) to replace the already issued 12 (monthly).

Alternatives available:
1. Letter from employer showing weekly salary details (gross, tax, ni, net) to be used with bank statements.
2. Monthly payslips to be used with P60 (this option is only possible for Apr-Mar claim period).

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Post by tvn_ramesh » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:32 pm

Sush... Agreed I am little confused how he is paid Weekly/ 4weekly?

But he shd opt for option no.1 of your's which I meant also based on how the OP is paid in his bank..

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Post by merci » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:44 pm

But do you think then it is possible to replacing the old monthly pay slips
with old dated weekly issued ones. They may not like the idea but I am wondering about its possibility according law an accountacy principles.

At the first place they refused to give me weekly detailed letter and insisted to give a letter which show the amounts of salary slips. They
caused to rejection and somehow they have to repair what they did.

I am appreciated for your answers

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Post by merci » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:59 pm

sush
did you wanted to say with option 2
bank statements with p60 or
salary slips with p60

which one is correct

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:06 pm

merci wrote:sush
did you wanted to say with option 2
bank statements with p60 or
salary slips with p60

which one is correct
Preferably salary/pay slips with p60, but even bank statements with p60 will do, as long as net salary amount on p60 matches with the sumtotal of (52) weekly payments credited in the bank.

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Post by merci » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:26 pm

Hi again
Any ideas about the main question on the top regarding law and accountancy principles.

It is a genuine mistake, it just need to be adjusted
Do you think it is allowed by law or accountancy principles.
If it is , this is the best way.

I need your urgent answers

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Post by ash786 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:44 pm

merci wrote:Hi again
Any ideas about the main question on the top regarding law and accountancy principles.

It is a genuine mistake, it just need to be adjusted
Do you think it is allowed by law or accountancy principles.
If it is , this is the best way.

I need your urgent answers
1. I work as an Accounts Manager and i can assure you that its not easy to backdate the payslips.
2. If its a 1 or 2 months then possible.
3. Any longer periods cause a lot of problem related to TAX, NIC payments made to Inland Revenue by u employer and thats probably the reason the guy in u company is not helpful which i understand as if it was me i wud not do that.
4. U mistake is that u shud have noticed that well before and get it corrected.
5. Its a simple thing that if an employee gets paid weekly then he shud have weekly slips and if he gets paid monthly then it shud be monthly slips.
6. The HO rejected your application as they could not work out u wages and differences in u actual wages and the money claimed.

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Post by merci » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:40 am

I see your point

Let's talk about P60 option
the accounts department last year decided to change payment and salary slip period as
4 week payment 1 salary slip which normally means 13 salary slip and 52 payment

If I decided to providing the P60 as previous earnings and bank statements
what kind of a process they are going to follow
are they just going to calculate the 52 weeks payments and check with the total of my P60

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Post by ash786 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:05 am

merci wrote:I see your point

Let's talk about P60 option
the accounts department last year decided to change payment and salary slip period as
4 week payment 1 salary slip which normally means 13 salary slip and 52 payment

If I decided to providing the P60 as previous earnings and bank statements
what kind of a process they are going to follow
are they just going to calculate the 52 weeks payments and check with the total of my P60
1. U shud only send the documents listed in the guidence and accepted by HO.

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Post by merci » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:46 pm

@ash

It is what I am going to do
I am trying to clarify the situation
If I decided to sent the P60 there is a payment which is including
a previous fiscal year earning
as example

the payment has been done 2nd of April for net 350gbp for the period of
27/03-02/04
as the p60 will only cover from the 1st of april
are they going to divide it with seven and multiply by 2
which means they are going to take into account 100gbp of earning
in order to matchthe earning with p60 or
they are going to say simply it is not corraborating

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:25 pm

No caseworker is going to do calculations for you. Your first application was refused for the same reason - you were expecting the caseworker to do the calculations and award you points.

This is not how it works!.


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Post by geriatrix » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:33 pm

merci wrote:the payment has been done 2nd of April for net 350gbp for the period of 27/03-02/04
as the p60 will only cover from the 1st of april
So where is the problem?

Payment credited in bank on 2nd April, the same included in P60 as part of earnings in April - So where's the issue? It is immaterial if the work you did to earn that payment was even 2 years ago! P60 just reflects income earned (read paid into your bank) in a given financial year and the tax paid on such income. Simple!

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Post by merci » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:02 am

sush

Sorry to asking you this stupid question but just let me know if I understand it right

Can you pls confirm me that
I have two seperate earning sources

one is with my own company which paid to me dividend payments (home office confirmed that they are corraborated)

the second one is my employment earnings .
I will claim points for the periods of April 2009-March 2010 this time
and attach my P60 for the full period. ( I will claim for the 12 month and
P60 shows the 12 month)

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=28177

according this thread then I will be fine.

and due to a part of payment of 2nd April belong to first two days of April and the last five days of March a calculation and explanation about that in my cover letter would be sufficent hopefully. (to be in safe side and to save the case worker from any calculation, :lol: - this is my first smile since the rejection)

Do you think all this will be sufficent and not to bother to ask my employer for the letter or no need for the pay slips. Or do I need a letter from my employer which will show all payment details, dates and the fact they are paying on weekly basis and issuing the salary slips on monthly basis later on. OR should I attach my pay slips as well

Thank you so much for all yours contributions so far to my case. I feel i lost my ability to think healty after rejection.

Regards,

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Post by merci » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:45 pm

according guidence
item138- iii
"Letter form the applicant's (previous and /or presenet) employer(s) (or in the case of winnings, the relevant awarding body) confirming tht he/she has received the exact amountclaimed. This is a letter on company headed paper which clearly shows the applicatn's earnings are being claimed and should clearly show the applicant's gross and net
pay

(Where an employer letter includes only total gross and net earnings figures for the whole earning period claimed , we will consider this documents. How ever, where the dates of the earning period and the total gross/net earnigs stated in the letter exactly correspond with the information included in the other documentary evidence of these earning s provided, will we be able to award points)"

According above item first paragraph last sentence ".........should clearly show the applicant's gross and net pay" does this sentence mean the
the TOTAL of gross and net payment or EACH PAYMENTS gross and net payment.

Waiting for your comments

Regards
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Post by merci » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:10 pm

Hi Sush,

I already read that and actually used these tables at the moment of my first extension application which is rejected.

I am digging in and out of all the threads with hope of finding something at the moment.


I am re and rereading the guidence.
I think this item does not mention clearly, that the each payment's gross payment should be indicated in the letter .
( I do understand mentioning that would be perfect for cross checking but in my case this is not applicable)

as you know my case above, the problem the net payments are weekly and the salary slip is monthly.

I am thinking of asking to my employer to issue a letter roughly like
below pls let me know your comments on it.

"

Total earnings period. 01.04.2009-31.03.2009
Total gross salary....................
Total Net salary..................

Each Payment Each payment date.
................ ........................
................. .....................
................ ......................


"
This letter would leave out the explanation about the monthly salary slips or any information about them. I want to make the letter simple. no complicated explanations ( it is perfectly allowed by both law and accountancy principles do so, I don't think there is anything wrong about doing advance payments ) Or shall I ask to my employer the calculations for the gross amounts of each net payment ? Is it ok?

Do you think a letter which includes each payment and each payment date
with total gross earning and net payment would work out? I will attach the P60 as well.

it says
(Where an employer letter includes only total gross and net earnings figures for the whole earning period claimed , we will consider this documents. How ever, where the dates of the earning period and the total gross/net earnigs stated in the letter exactly correspond with the information included in the other documentary evidence of these earning s provided, will we be able to award points)"


the above word terrifying me due to there is a payment which belongs partly to 2008 and partly 2009. I will submit my P60 for the full period
of 2009.
It is going to be explained in the employer letter and the calculations will show the amount which is belong to the part of 2009.

Do you think they will take into consideration the explanations and
That kind of documentation will save my case

Kindest Regards,

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