I M OVER 18 AND WANT TO APPLY FOR SET(F) FORM FROM UK

[hingerajesh]

MY NAME IS RAJESH,

I AM 21 YEARS OLD FROM ASIA. I AM IN UK AS A FAMILY VISTOR FROM LAST 2 MONTHS. MY ALL THE RELATIVES ARE IN uk AND ARE BRITISH CITIZENS INCLUDING MY MOTHER. MY MOTHER WAS BRITISH BY BIRTH BUT WE USE TO STAY TOGETHER IN ASIA . IN 2004 MY FATHER DIED WHO WAS A INDIAN SO BECAUSE OF THIS IN 2008 MY MOM CAME TO UK.. NOW SHE IS WORKING.. AND HAS A HOUSE ON RENT.. AND SHE IS ALSO GOING TO DEPRESSION BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY SOON AS MY VISA EXPIRES. I AM THE ALONE IN MY HOME COUNTRY.. I DONT HAVE A JOB IN MY HOME COUNTRY... I DONT HAVE ANY INCOME OF MY OWN.. MY MOTHER SUPPORTS ME FROM HERE... AS NOW I AM IN uk.. SHE WANTS ME TO APPLY AS A DEPENDENT OF HER WITH SET(F) FORM.... SO WAT SHOULD I DO.. AND WAT R THE THINGS POSSIBLE..

[vinny]

Where was your mother born?
Try not to shout.

[hingerajesh]

Where was your mother born?
Try not to shout.

SHE WAS BORN IN CONTINENT OF AFRICA

[vinny]

Try not to shout.

[Greenie]

In which country was your mother born and what year?

Where were you born?

[vinny]

You must provide evidence that:
you depend wholly or mainly on your settled relative for money;
you (and any dependants you have) can and will be maintained and housed adequately, without needing public funds, in accommodation which your settled relative owns or occupies exclusively; and
you have no other close relatives in your own country who can support you financially.

If there are exceptional compassionate circumstances, the following relatives who meet the above requirements may be allowed to join as settled person here:
sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, uncles and aunts over the age of 18; and
parents and grandparents under the age of 65.

Moreover, they may refuse your application in the UK under 322(7) because of 41(i) & (ii), unless there was a relevant change of circumstances.

[vinny]

In addition to Greenie's questions:

What were your grandparents' occupations when your mother was born?

What were your parents' occupations when you were born?

[hingerajesh]

In addition to Greenie's questions:

What were your grandparents' occupations when your mother was born?

What were your parents' occupations when you were born?

MY GRAND PARENTS WERE ENGINEERS. THEY ALSO HAD BRITISH CITIZENSHIPS..
MY PARENTS WERE DOING JOB AT TIME OF MY BIRTH..


AND WAT WILL BE THE RELAVANT CHANGES FOR ME TO MAKE A SUCCESSFULL APPLICATION

[hingerajesh]

You must provide evidence that:
you depend wholly or mainly on your settled relative for money;
you (and any dependants you have) can and will be maintained and housed adequately, without needing public funds, in accommodation which your settled relative owns or occupies exclusively; and
you have no other close relatives in your own country who can support you financially.

If there are exceptional compassionate circumstances, the following relatives who meet the above requirements may be allowed to join as settled person here:
sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, uncles and aunts over the age of 18; and
parents and grandparents under the age of 65.

Moreover, they may refuse your application in the UK under 322(7) because of 41(i) & (ii), unless there was a relevant change of circumstances.

I MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ABOVE..
I AM ALONE IN THE HOME COUNTRY NO ONE THERE TO SUPPORT ME AND EVEN LOOK AFTER ME INCASE ANY EMERGENCY OCCURS.

I M WHOLLY AND MAINLY DEPENDENT ON MY MOTHER. SHE TRANFERS MONEY TO ME..

MY MOTHER IS WORKING.. AND SHE HOUSE RENTED BY HER WHICH HAS A THREE BED ROOM RENTED.

AND EVEN I HAVE CONDITIONS WHERE NO ONE IS THERE TO LOOK AFTER ME, I NEED MY MOM.. WE STAYED TOGETHER FOR 19 YEARS AND SUDDENLY NOW WE ARE BEEN SEPARATED..




AND WILL I GET APPEAL RIGHTS IF MY APPLICATION GETS REFUSED

[vinny]

Try not to shout.

You should get a right of appeal if:
you make a valid application before your leave expires and there is a

(d)refusal to vary a person’s leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom if the result of the refusal is that the person has no leave to enter or remain

So, don't make the application too early nor too late.

[daddy]

Is your mother and father British citizens before you were born, if yes, you maybe entitle to British citizenship also.

Do not write in capital letters, people consider it as shouting.

When you answer questions, you will stand to get better advices.

[hingerajesh]

Is your mother and father British citizens before you were born, if yes, you maybe entitle to British citizenship also.

Do not write in capital letters, people consider it as shouting.

When you answer questions, you will stand to get better advices.

my mother was british at time of my birth,but my father was not

[hingerajesh]

Try not to shout.

You should get a right of appeal if:
you make a valid application before your leave expires and there is a

(d)refusal to vary a person’s leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom if the result of the refusal is that the person has no leave to enter or remain

So, don't make the application too early nor too late.

please help me and suggest should i apply or not and if yes.. then how many days before my visitor visa gets expired..

[Greenie]

It would be helpful if you answered the questions specifically

- What country was your mother born in
- What was your mother's occupation when you were born

In addition

- What is your nationality
- In which country were you born

If you give provide this information then people will be able to advise you on whether you qualify for British Citizenship or if there is another category you can apply under (e.g. UK Ancestry.)

No one can tell you whether to make the SET(F) application. This is a complicated category to apply under and I think you need legal advice from someone who will have the benefit of taking detailed information from you about your circumstances.

However I will say that it is not enough for you to be dependent on your mother. UKBA can say that she can send money to you abroad. You also need to show compelling and compassionate circumstances. Read the information in the links others have posted. this is a very difficult hurdle to overcome. How are your cirumstances compelling and compassionate (note living alone abraod is not enough to satisfy this)

In addition, read this document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

It says that in cases such as yours:

"As the majority of such applications will be from
persons who are over the age of 18, but not necessarily old and frail, the
compassionate circumstances will need to be very strong. The circumstances
will have to be such that the applicant cannot function (either because of
illness or disability) without the help and support of friends or relatives and
that no such help or support is available to them in the country where they are
living."


Do you think that you meet these requirements?


You said your mother came here in 2008 and you came here two months ago? What have you been doing for the last 2-3 years and where have you been living?


If you do choose to apply bear in mind that if your application is refused and you are required to leave the UK you will find it very difficult to come back as a visitor in the future because UKBA will not be satisfied that you intend on returning home again.

[hingerajesh]

It would be helpful if you answered the questions specifically

- What country was your mother born in
- What was your mother's occupation when you were born

In addition

- What is your nationality
- In which country were you born

If you give provide this information then people will be able to advise you on whether you qualify for British Citizenship or if there is another category you can apply under (e.g. UK Ancestry.)

No one can tell you whether to make the SET(F) application. This is a complicated category to apply under and I think you need legal advice from someone who will have the benefit of taking detailed information from you about your circumstances.

However I will say that it is not enough for you to be dependent on your mother. UKBA can say that she can send money to you abroad. You also need to show compelling and compassionate circumstances. Read the information in the links others have posted. this is a very difficult hurdle to overcome. How are your cirumstances compelling and compassionate (note living alone abraod is not enough to satisfy this)

In addition, read this document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

It says that in cases such as yours:

"As the majority of such applications will be from
persons who are over the age of 18, but not necessarily old and frail, the
compassionate circumstances will need to be very strong. The circumstances
will have to be such that the applicant cannot function (either because of
illness or disability) without the help and support of friends or relatives and
that no such help or support is available to them in the country where they are
living."


Do you think that you meet these requirements?


You said your mother came here in 2008 and you came here two months ago? What have you been doing for the last 2-3 years and where have you been living?


If you do choose to apply bear in mind that if your application is refused and you are required to leave the UK you will find it very difficult to come back as a visitor in the future because UKBA will not be satisfied that you intend on returning home again.

my mother was born in Uganda in1952.
her occupation at time of my birth was a job in india.. i was been supported in india by my father and mother we all hadhappy family.
as soon as my father died in 2004.. our families financial position was been droped.. at same time my mothers visa of staying india was expired .. it took three year to extend the visa legally and take exit permit from gov of india for my mother.. then my mom came alone to uk to her other family members and i was left behind alone..
let me tell you that i m physically little bit challenged, i have metal plates in my hip bones.. so its hard for me to walk long... and even from when mom have left me.. i m in a depression and have high and low blood pressure problems.. in this case there is not a single relative of mine who can take care of me or help me ,, i have to move to the doctor alone ther is no one for me i feel very alone in my home country... i hope you will give me a good advice,
and when my mother came to UK that time i was waiting for my appeal for the vistor visa so it took this long for me..
thank you

[daddy]

It would be helpful if you answered the questions specifically

- What country was your mother born in
- What was your mother's occupation when you were born

In addition

- What is your nationality
- In which country were you born

If you give provide this information then people will be able to advise you on whether you qualify for British Citizenship or if there is another category you can apply under (e.g. UK Ancestry.)

No one can tell you whether to make the SET(F) application. This is a complicated category to apply under and I think you need legal advice from someone who will have the benefit of taking detailed information from you about your circumstances.

However I will say that it is not enough for you to be dependent on your mother. UKBA can say that she can send money to you abroad. You also need to show compelling and compassionate circumstances. Read the information in the links others have posted. this is a very difficult hurdle to overcome. How are your cirumstances compelling and compassionate (note living alone abraod is not enough to satisfy this)

In addition, read this document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

It says that in cases such as yours:

"As the majority of such applications will be from
persons who are over the age of 18, but not necessarily old and frail, the
compassionate circumstances will need to be very strong. The circumstances
will have to be such that the applicant cannot function (either because of
illness or disability) without the help and support of friends or relatives and
that no such help or support is available to them in the country where they are
living."


Do you think that you meet these requirements?


You said your mother came here in 2008 and you came here two months ago? What have you been doing for the last 2-3 years and where have you been living?


If you do choose to apply bear in mind that if your application is refused and you are required to leave the UK you will find it very difficult to come back as a visitor in the future because UKBA will not be satisfied that you intend on returning home again.

my mother was born in Uganda in1952.
her occupation at time of my birth was a job in india.. i was been supported in india by my father and mother we all hadhappy family.
as soon as my father died in 2004.. our families financial position was been droped.. at same time my mothers visa of staying india was expired .. it took three year to extend the visa legally and take exit permit from gov of india for my mother.. then my mom came alone to uk to her other family members and i was left behind alone..
let me tell you that i m physically little bit challenged, i have metal plates in my hip bones.. so its hard for me to walk long... and even from when mom have left me.. i m in a depression and have high and low blood pressure problems.. in this case there is not a single relative of mine who can take care of me or help me ,, i have to move to the doctor alone ther is no one for me i feel very alone in my home country... i hope you will give me a good advice,
and when my mother came to UK that time i was waiting for my appeal for the vistor visa so it took this long for me..
thank you

Did your mum register your birth with british Embassy? If so, you would acquire your British Citizenship. Ask your mum about your birth registration and more about her immigration status in UK before she went to India and gave Birth to you, these info would help you not to make a mistake as per what type of application you need to make

[hingerajesh]

It would be helpful if you answered the questions specifically

- What country was your mother born in
- What was your mother's occupation when you were born

In addition

- What is your nationality
- In which country were you born

If you give provide this information then people will be able to advise you on whether you qualify for British Citizenship or if there is another category you can apply under (e.g. UK Ancestry.)

No one can tell you whether to make the SET(F) application. This is a complicated category to apply under and I think you need legal advice from someone who will have the benefit of taking detailed information from you about your circumstances.

However I will say that it is not enough for you to be dependent on your mother. UKBA can say that she can send money to you abroad. You also need to show compelling and compassionate circumstances. Read the information in the links others have posted. this is a very difficult hurdle to overcome. How are your cirumstances compelling and compassionate (note living alone abraod is not enough to satisfy this)

In addition, read this document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

It says that in cases such as yours:

"As the majority of such applications will be from
persons who are over the age of 18, but not necessarily old and frail, the
compassionate circumstances will need to be very strong. The circumstances
will have to be such that the applicant cannot function (either because of
illness or disability) without the help and support of friends or relatives and
that no such help or support is available to them in the country where they are
living."


Do you think that you meet these requirements?


You said your mother came here in 2008 and you came here two months ago? What have you been doing for the last 2-3 years and where have you been living?


If you do choose to apply bear in mind that if your application is refused and you are required to leave the UK you will find it very difficult to come back as a visitor in the future because UKBA will not be satisfied that you intend on returning home again.

my mother was born in Uganda in1952.
her occupation at time of my birth was a job in india.. i was been supported in india by my father and mother we all hadhappy family.
as soon as my father died in 2004.. our families financial position was been droped.. at same time my mothers visa of staying india was expired .. it took three year to extend the visa legally and take exit permit from gov of india for my mother.. then my mom came alone to uk to her other family members and i was left behind alone..
let me tell you that i m physically little bit challenged, i have metal plates in my hip bones.. so its hard for me to walk long... and even from when mom have left me.. i m in a depression and have high and low blood pressure problems.. in this case there is not a single relative of mine who can take care of me or help me ,, i have to move to the doctor alone ther is no one for me i feel very alone in my home country... i hope you will give me a good advice,
and when my mother came to UK that time i was waiting for my appeal for the vistor visa so it took this long for me..
thank you

Did your mum register your birth with british Embassy? If so, you would acquire your British Citizenship. Ask your mum about your birth registration and more about her immigration status in UK before she went to India and gave Birth to you, these info would help you not to make a mistake as per what type of application you need to make

she was british overseas citizen at that time.. and she had not registered my birth with british embassy..

greenie please help me out in this problemmm i dont wanna leave this country...

[hingerajesh]

It would be helpful if you answered the questions specifically

- What country was your mother born in
- What was your mother's occupation when you were born

In addition

- What is your nationality
- In which country were you born

If you give provide this information then people will be able to advise you on whether you qualify for British Citizenship or if there is another category you can apply under (e.g. UK Ancestry.)

No one can tell you whether to make the SET(F) application. This is a complicated category to apply under and I think you need legal advice from someone who will have the benefit of taking detailed information from you about your circumstances.

However I will say that it is not enough for you to be dependent on your mother. UKBA can say that she can send money to you abroad. You also need to show compelling and compassionate circumstances. Read the information in the links others have posted. this is a very difficult hurdle to overcome. How are your cirumstances compelling and compassionate (note living alone abraod is not enough to satisfy this)

In addition, read this document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

It says that in cases such as yours:

"As the majority of such applications will be from
persons who are over the age of 18, but not necessarily old and frail, the
compassionate circumstances will need to be very strong. The circumstances
will have to be such that the applicant cannot function (either because of
illness or disability) without the help and support of friends or relatives and
that no such help or support is available to them in the country where they are
living."


Do you think that you meet these requirements?


You said your mother came here in 2008 and you came here two months ago? What have you been doing for the last 2-3 years and where have you been living?


If you do choose to apply bear in mind that if your application is refused and you are required to leave the UK you will find it very difficult to come back as a visitor in the future because UKBA will not be satisfied that you intend on returning home again.

my mother was born in Uganda in1952.
her occupation at time of my birth was a job in india.. i was been supported in india by my father and mother we all hadhappy family.
as soon as my father died in 2004.. our families financial position was been droped.. at same time my mothers visa of staying india was expired .. it took three year to extend the visa legally and take exit permit from gov of india for my mother.. then my mom came alone to uk to her other family members and i was left behind alone..
let me tell you that i m physically little bit challenged, i have metal plates in my hip bones.. so its hard for me to walk long... and even from when mom have left me.. i m in a depression and have high and low blood pressure problems.. in this case there is not a single relative of mine who can take care of me or help me ,, i have to move to the doctor alone ther is no one for me i feel very alone in my home country... i hope you will give me a good advice,
and when my mother came to UK that time i was waiting for my appeal for the vistor visa so it took this long for me..
thank you

Did your mum register your birth with british Embassy? If so, you would acquire your British Citizenship. Ask your mum about your birth registration and more about her immigration status in UK before she went to India and gave Birth to you, these info would help you not to make a mistake as per what type of application you need to make

she was british overseas citizen at that time.. and she had not registered my birth with british embassy..

greenie please help me out in this problemmm i dont wanna leave this country...

can anyone please reply on my problem

[Greenie]

your case is very complicated and therefore it is difficult for anyone to give you accurate advice on this forum about your various options. It is still not clear whether you have an entitlement to British Citizenship or UK Ancestry because you have not really properly answered the questions you have been asked.

Your case requires detailed scrutiny of the evidence and your circumstances amd discussion with you about your various options.

I do again strongly suggest that you seek professional legal advice from a qualified immigration solicitor. You may be entitled to free legal help (legal aid) if you are on a low income.

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingan ... icitor.law

You can use this to search for a solciitor by area of law and location. You can also see if they offer legal aid.

Alternatively seek advice from an immigraiton adviser regulated by the OISC

http://www.oisc.gov.uk/people_seeking_i ... er_finder/

[hingerajesh]

your case is very complicated and therefore it is difficult for anyone to give you accurate advice on this forum about your various options. It is still not clear whether you have an entitlement to British Citizenship or UK Ancestry because you have not really properly answered the questions you have been asked.

Your case requires detailed scrutiny of the evidence and your circumstances amd discussion with you about your various options.

I do again strongly suggest that you seek professional legal advice from a qualified immigration solicitor. You may be entitled to free legal help (legal aid) if you are on a low income.

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingan ... icitor.law

You can use this to search for a solciitor by area of law and location. You can also see if they offer legal aid.

Alternatively seek advice from an immigraiton adviser regulated by the OISC

http://www.oisc.gov.uk/people_seeking_i ... er_finder/

Thank you...!!!!





i stay in india alone in the house owned by my father. but my farther is expired.. and my mother is in UK now she is citizen of UK.. she came here 1 and half year before.. she left me back in UK as i had my exams.. and even from wen she has left me i have been ill for many times from time to time.. i m mailny and wholly dependent on her, and i dnt have anyone in my home country to look after me... i have been ill for for most of the time since my mother left me.. blood pressure probs and fevers andd all,... can this be my compationate circumstances... i even have steel plates in my leg..

[hingerajesh]

your case is very complicated and therefore it is difficult for anyone to give you accurate advice on this forum about your various options. It is still not clear whether you have an entitlement to British Citizenship or UK Ancestry because you have not really properly answered the questions you have been asked.

Your case requires detailed scrutiny of the evidence and your circumstances amd discussion with you about your various options.

I do again strongly suggest that you seek professional legal advice from a qualified immigration solicitor. You may be entitled to free legal help (legal aid) if you are on a low income.

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingan ... icitor.law

You can use this to search for a solciitor by area of law and location. You can also see if they offer legal aid.

Alternatively seek advice from an immigraiton adviser regulated by the OISC

http://www.oisc.gov.uk/people_seeking_i ... er_finder/

Thank you...!!!!

stay in india alone in the house owned by my father. but my farther is expired.. and my mother is in UK now she is citizen of UK.. she came here 1 and half year before.. she left me back in UK as i had my exams.. and even from wen she has left me i have been ill for many times from time to time.. i m mailny and wholly dependent on her, and i dnt have anyone in my home country to look after me... i have been ill for for most of the time since my mother left me.. blood pressure probs and fevers andd all,... can this be my compationate circumstances... i even have steel plates in my leg..

[geriatrix]

If you believe that your medical condition is such that you require constant care and supervision, and if you can provide documentary evidence(s) of the same (from medical professionals) then you may use this as a reason to claim exceptional compassionate circumstances.

What you state isn't what matters, what you can prove does.

As suggested above, you should seek professional advice from a competent immigration solicitor to ascertain whether you meet the requirements of the immigration category you wish to apply under.


regards

[vinny]

Medical problems may not be sufficient.

[hingerajesh]

Medical problems may not be sufficient.

yes thats correct vinny...
BUt i dont have anyone else to take care of me in case of any emergency. i am afraid that if anything happens to me, then wat shud i do.. i m very alone in my home country.
and even my mother is depressed on the thing that i have to return back to my home country whr i will b kept alone.. its breaking our whole family life.. and my mother cannot join me in india bcoz she cant get work permit over there in india.. then who else will be there to take care of us.. and even all her brothers and sister and my cousins all stay in UK..

[Greenie]

Medical problems may not be sufficient.

I would say that this case is more about breach of Article 3 rights due to lack of medical treatment so it not directly comparable to the OP's situation as it doesn't appear that the respondent in the case referred to applied under para 317 rather he made an application for leave outside th rules on compassionate/medical grounds arguing breach of Article 3/8

317 doesnt require a breach of Article 3/8 to be proven although clearly Article 8 will be a factor. The threshold although for 317(f) is high but not as high as Article 3 medical cases.

Hingerajesh - I think we have given you all of the advice we are able to give on a forum such as this. You must seek legal advice as already advised.