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buntosanya wrote:For the benefit of forum members that sent in their renewal application before 7th November and are still wondering what is going to happen to their application like i did yesterday.
This is my Timeline:-
13th October - Application sent to Home Office
17th October - Account debited with fees
19th October - Received Acknowledgement Letter from Office dated 16th
10 November - Called HO in the morning for progress report on my application and was told Passports and Docs were sent out Yesterday.
10 November - Passport and Documents met at home.
My heart goes out to people who are likely to be affected by HO's pronouncement, but don't let us loose hope. I pray HO will reconsider this and we shall all laugh at the end of it all.
Yinkuze wrote:November 1st - Submitted FLR(IED) application
November 3rd - Payment acknowledged by HO. Received Ref No
November 10th - Faxed an urgent treatment request
November 14 - Decision made by HO
Novemnber 15th - Received Passports with Visa until 2010
Thanks
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Junior0300 wrote:Roughly how long will it take for us to challenge HO legally in the court. What are our chances in such kind of appeal?
I believe this forum is sponsored by Workpermit.com. Its time for them to come forward and point us all in correct direction.
I appreciate the efforts which fellow memeber are trying to make at yahoo groups... but we need something more organsied than that.
Moderators and Sponsors are welcome to debate.
From a Home Office perspective, you agreed that you want to make the UK your permanent home when you otained HSMP as a Highly Skilled Migrant, then took 5 months to get into a position of contributing to the economy as a Highly Skilled Migrant.Junior0300 wrote:Hi Amry
if i get job in the fifth month of my initial year then I am supposed to go back to my country!
Do you think its fair?
I agree but NEW RULE SHOULD BE FOR NEW APPLICANTS.Amry wrote:From a Home Office perspective, you agreed that you want to make the UK your permanent home when you otained HSMP as a Highly Skilled Migrant, then took 5 months to get into a position of contributing to the economy as a Highly Skilled Migrant.Junior0300 wrote:Hi Amry
if i get job in the fifth month of my initial year then I am supposed to go back to my country!
Do you think its fair?
Essentially the Home Office is managing migration. How can the Home Office justify to British society that you are Highly Skilled Migrant and keen to make the UK your home, when it takes 5 months to get into a position where you are paying tax?
I completely understand your position, it is hard. But the fact is most of my clients that are "Highly Skilled" receive their first offers within 10 days of arriving, and it is these people that the scheme was designed for. (They also usually make the earnings requirement in only a few months. This means that they could start in their 5th or 6th or even 7th month after arrival, and still make the earnings requirement. Again, these are the people the scheme was designed for.)
You might need to accept that you are not in a suitable category, as defined by the Home Office. You need to consider an alternative immigration category, possibly until you qualify for HSMP again.
In fact, some take 4 or 5 days to find work, and this is not unusual for a HSMP holder.Junior0300 wrote:Amry
I think you just over exaggerated by saying that ppl get jobs here in 10 days (on the basis of their experience from third world countries). I personally know many experienced and skilled ppl still jobless.
They are NOT changing the rules MIDWAY at all. You were given 1 or 2 years. You were never given the RIGHT to an extension. You still keep your initial 1 or 2 year permit even though this was granted under a different set of rules, so it is not fair to suggest you were misled.Rog wrote:I am really shocked by Amry's postings, you fail to take into account that a person made a major decision to leave a well paying job and immigrate into a new country based on certain commitments by the Home Office wherein they had asked us to make a contribution to the economy and to be able to support self and dependents. If an applicant is meeting these criteria how can they change the rules midway and deport someone from the country. A person getting well paid job apart from a person's capabilities also depends on other factors like luck, getting a right break at the right moment, knowing someone senior who can recommend you etc. Also salary levels vary according to location and industry so the 75 points break-up is totally unfair.
One would not migrate on the basis of a one year permit but on the basis of a programme which leads to settlement in which no minimum income criteria are laid out. Also the scheme was not sector specific like US H1B visa which does not promise settlement, hence it is against basic fairness to introduce the income threshold midway. Other countries also have programmes for skilled migrants but they give ILR on entry. If you are highly successful do not belittle others with a lesser degree of success than you.24.10 Q: I have already applied successfully under HSMP. How does the revised HSMP affect me?
A: Not at all. It is important to note that once you have entered under the programme you are in a category that has
an avenue to settlement. Those who have already entered under HSMP will be allowed to stay and apply for
settlement after four years qualifying residence regardless of these revisions to HSMP
Not sure what the relevance of that quote was, as HSMP still leads to settlement, if you qualify for extensions at the time of extension. (You were not guaranteed extension then and you are not now, so no change there.) Anyone that entered the UK on 1 or 2 year HSMP permits expecting automatic extensions did not understand what was on offer to them.Rog wrote:Amry,
I am reproducing a section of FAQ from the original HSMP scheme under which I had applied
One would not migrate on the basis of a one year permit but on the basis of a programme which leads to settlement in which no minimum income criteria are laid out. Also the scheme was not sector specific like US H1B visa which does not promise settlement, hence it is against basic fairness to introduce the income threshold midway. Other countries also have programmes for skilled migrants but they give ILR on entry. If you are highly successful do not belittle others with a lesser degree of success than you.24.10 Q: I have already applied successfully under HSMP. How does the revised HSMP affect me?
A: Not at all. It is important to note that once you have entered under the programme you are in a category that has
an avenue to settlement. Those who have already entered under HSMP will be allowed to stay and apply for
settlement after four years qualifying residence regardless of these revisions to HSMP
This is not true at all. The quote refers to specific updates to "Initial Application" stage of HSMP that were made a long time ago. The dated FAQ says that the revisions to the "Initial Application" criteria will not affect those that had already been granted an Initial stay.Rog wrote:The HO quote I have given is extremely relevent as it clearly states that future revisions to the scheme would not apply on those applying at that time.