Migrating from HSMP to WP

higgie · Post by **higgie** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:14 am

Hi all,

as an FYI - i have just spoken to the HSMP/WP guys and gals.. and posed to them the following scenario:
* I'm currently residing in the UK,
* I've had the initial HSMP approval for one year, and now i have to extend the HSMP
* Since i'm NOT going to meet the new criteria for extension, can i migrate directly to the WP scheme without having to reapply for the HSMP?

Their answer:
As long as you meet the criteria for the WP application (i.e. have been working for 8 months if on a 12 month HSMP visa), you can apply directly for the WP without having to apply for the HSMP extension first.

Hope this helps (it's a bit of positive news amid all of the current doom and gloom).

higgie

ATBPLC · Post by **ATBPLC** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:38 am

Maggie, there is nothing positive here because its old news. The current news is that if you migrate from HSMP to WP you will loose all years spent on HSMP. BAD NEWS

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:42 am

How does the WP work in terms of duration i.e. how are the no of years on a work permit determined, does the employer specify them in the application

higgie · Post by **higgie** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:04 am

Hi ATBPLC,

i don't think your comments are helping anyone. We're all stressed at the moment, and , yes, things could be better.

However, flicking through a couple of posts last night, I can't see too many that are in any way constructive.

I do not consider talk of battles, wars etc to be of any help to the readership of this forum.

What would be more constructive is to introduce information and let people decide on the most appropriate course for THEM.

Any hope that you can provide people with is better than filling them with despair.

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:54 am

Higgie, the fact that after 4 years of HSMP you are looking at another 5 years on WP ie a total of 9 years of living in UK to get ILR is unfair and one cannot just meekly accept this kind of unfairness, there has to be some democratic representation through legal means. If asylum seekers and other illegal residents use legal means to challenge HO we are on a stronger grounding than them. The news is bad and depressing and not mentioning this fact will not change anything.

ATBPLC · Post by **ATBPLC** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:06 am

Thanks Rog,

Higgie, you see we are the same boat. I belong to1+3+1 group and it is better to share whatever info at this moment so that we will not be caught unaware and so that we can satrt preparing in earnest for our defenses.

I am sorry if you are badly hit but like Rog said the news is bad enough and should be exposed.

Markie · Post by **Markie** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:38 pm

Rog wrote:How does the WP work in terms of duration i.e. how are the no of years on a work permit determined, does the employer specify them in the application

Rog,

it depends on the circumstances of the company...if the company is well 18-24 months in existence, they (WP) would only grant max 2 years even if he company applies for a 4yr visa. on the other hand, a well established company can apply for a 4yr WP and be granted by the WP team.

Yes...the employer specifies the duration of the work permit.

markie

As with all affected with the recent changes in the HSMP scheme... let's wait for the 'real' guidelines to be published next week... I am also affected with the changes (a little short on the 75pt mark).

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:44 pm

Markie, thanks for the reply. Can a company apply for a 5 year WP which would be better if the ILR clock is starting from zero because otherwise there would be still one more extension after 8 (4 HSMP + 4 WP) years.

Markie · Post by **Markie** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:56 pm

Rog wrote:Markie, thanks for the reply. Can a company apply for a 5 year WP which would be better if the ILR clock is starting from zero because otherwise there would be still one more extension after 8 (4 HSMP + 4 WP) years.

Yup, an employer can apply for a 5yr WP. I have quoted a section of the FAQs on WPs...

We can issue work permits for up to five years but we may limit the initial length of approval, for example, if you are a new employer. After this period of limited approval you will be required to submit further up to date company information that shows you continue to be a UK-based
employer that is able to support a genuine vacancy. We must also be satisfied that sufficient work exists for the entire period requested.

lanr3e · Post by **lanr3e** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:53 pm

Rog wrote:Markie, thanks for the reply. Can a company apply for a 5 year WP which would be better if the ILR clock is starting from zero because otherwise there would be still one more extension after 8 (4 HSMP + 4 WP) years.

Even when you get a 4 year WP, you can apply for HSMP towards end of the 4th year. The time from wp --> hsmp can stilll be amalgated for settlement purposes

fosho · Post by **fosho** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:02 pm

what about joining ..

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HSMP2006/

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