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dania
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: 2nd stage? Reply with quote

actonye wrote:
hey guys, quick question. So after getting my first application rejected 10 months after applying, for a reason which still eludes me ( and i make a point of mentioning it everytime), i have re-applied. 2 weeks after alas, i get a letter saying it's gone through to the second stage.
What is this second stage all about, any ideas how long it will take to work through this second stage?
They say six months, but they also mention it could be less or more. No reason for my application to be classed as complex.
I really wish this application process had a tracking system or at least was made more transparent.
can u tell why they refuse ur application thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO ARE TAKING PART IN CITIZENSHIP CEREMONY............................................
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO ARE TAKING PART IN CITIZENSHIP CEREMONY............................................


Now the desperate wait for Dec ceremony approvals and invitions letters begins !
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting2beirish wrote:
IQU wrote:
GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO ARE TAKING PART IN CITIZENSHIP CEREMONY............................................


Now the desperate wait for Dec ceremony approvals and invitions letters begins !


When will they send out Dec approval letters?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speech delivered by Alan Shatter TD, Minister for Justice, Equality and Defence, 15 October 2012, Citizenship Ceremony at the Convention Centre, Dublin

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/SP12000275
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mhmh wrote:
Speech delivered by Alan Shatter TD, Minister for Justice, Equality and Defence, 15 October 2012, Citizenship Ceremony at the Convention Centre, Dublin

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/SP12000275


Does anyone know when the next ceremony after the DECEMBER one will be? Did the minister mention anything about forthcoming ceremonies?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: hi all Reply with quote

i was on ceremony today 2300 people get citizenship they didn't say anything about next ceremony
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: hi all Reply with quote

dublinkhan wrote:
i was on ceremony today 2300 people get citizenship they didn't say anything about next ceremony


just wondering why number of people get approval decreasing , is the Minster of justice facing objection in granting citizenship and he is slowing down !!!??? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: waiting game Reply with quote

hi i come to ireland in 2002 i am maried to irish citizen i applied in may 2008 still waiting i get letter afyer 4 years asking me did i had problem with uk immigration border i never did so how they can make me wait all this time to ask me somthing they should to know with they are security check proceding time as they tell us in the fone , i am sick and angry at this systeme reminde me of third world country
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Azadi wrote:
hi,well I came 11 years ago in this country as a qualified doctor and working since 2003 and have payed at least 200 thousands euro tax since then and have saved many irish and non Irish 's life here , and still have to renew my visa when it expires , if I loose my job I have to leave the country. still in this country I dont have any right, at the same time I came to Ireland my close friend went to USA and overstayed there illigally and worked in black market with paying no tax,but around two years ago the US government gave residency to him and other illigal residents. now just see what is the difference between these two country.


Clearly USA is the best Very Happy

You are not alone, I too came here in 2002 as a student paid 20K in NON-EU fees for MD, did PhD, got 0.5 million € research grant money from EU for Irish University, have paid 1000's in tax, PRSI, USC ...no right or facility for me or my wife (she is sitting at home with stamp 3) ...still just waiting, really regret coming to this country ...just waiting to get the passport and get out of here, waiting for Azadi Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan Shatter in his speech on 15th Oct said he has made decisions on 22,500 applications in this year of 2012 .

However in this year so far only 14300 have been granted citizenship.

April : 4000
June : 4000
August : 4000
October : 2300

Total : 14300

So does this mean 8,200 applicant were refused/ rejected for naturalization ???
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="waiting2beirish"]Alan Shatter in his speech on 15th Oct said he has made decisions on 22,500 applications in this year of 2012 .

However in this year so far only 14300 have been granted citizenship.

April : 4000
June : 4000
August : 4000
October : 2300

Total : 14300

So does this mean 8,200 applicant were refused/ rejected for naturalization ???[/quote] i think you dont have proper numbers you miss the febuary ceremony also. minors applications they dont have to take oath.i think dept numbers are correct .good luck
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: waiting for garda Reply with quote

just off the phone after 30 redial, lady on the other side told me waiting for garda report. i just wonder how long it will take for garda report to arrive, im from 2009 applicant (more then three years Sad ) it looks like i have to wait for next year ceremony
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: waiting for garda Reply with quote

flatpack wrote:
just off the phone after 30 redial, lady on the other side told me waiting for garda report. i just wonder how long it will take for garda report to arrive, im from 2009 applicant (more then three years Sad ) it looks like i have to wait for next year ceremony


They usually say Garda report when they have nothing to say , which is the the case of the time . i wonder if they pale each others hair down there Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: waiting for garda Reply with quote

moro1 wrote:
flatpack wrote:
just off the phone after 30 redial, lady on the other side told me waiting for garda report. i just wonder how long it will take for garda report to arrive, im from 2009 applicant (more then three years Sad ) it looks like i have to wait for next year ceremony


They usually say Garda report when they have nothing to say , which is the the case of the time . i wonder if they pale each others hair down there Confused


This is really ridiculous applicants from Jan 2012 got their approval and naturalization cert at the 15 Oct ceremony and some are waiting since 2009 Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: waiting for garda Reply with quote

waiting2beirish wrote:
moro1 wrote:
flatpack wrote:
just off the phone after 30 redial, lady on the other side told me waiting for garda report. i just wonder how long it will take for garda report to arrive, im from 2009 applicant (more then three years Sad ) it looks like i have to wait for next year ceremony


They usually say Garda report when they have nothing to say , which is the the case of the time . i wonder if they pale each others hair down there Confused


This is really ridiculous applicants from Jan 2012 got their approval and naturalization cert at the 15 Oct ceremony and some are waiting since 2009 Mad

Well apparently the INIS have to stick to their 6 months promise to the 2012 applicants , it is even mentioned in there Ref letter , that they will receive a decision in 6 months .
But sure eventually we are getting a response could not be more than what we already have waited so no harm Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: waiting for garda Reply with quote

few friends of mine applied around same time and nothing for them yet either.

waiting2beirish wrote:

This is really ridiculous applicants from Jan 2012 got their approval and naturalization cert at the 15 Oct ceremony and some are waiting since 2009 Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,IQU saga,You have any idea Which minors applications they dont have to take oath.?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please share what service passport normaly use to send the passport and all other origional docs thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked to someone in Citizenship section yesterday and was told that I will get the decision in 2-3 weeks.
So I believe they will send out the invitation letter for Dec in 2-3 weeks. This doesn't mean I will get the positive reply though as I had some court fines which they asked me to submit the receipt for few weeks back.
Lets see and I will keep you posted.
By the way I have applied in July 2011 on the basis of 5 years residency (was 7 years in my case)
Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iloveireland wrote:
I talked to someone in Citizenship section yesterday and was told that I will get the decision in 2-3 weeks.
So I believe they will send out the invitation letter for Dec in 2-3 weeks. This doesn't mean I will get the positive reply though as I had some court fines which they asked me to submit the receipt for few weeks back.
Lets see and I will keep you posted.
By the way I have applied in July 2011 on the basis of 5 years residency (was 7 years in my case)
Thanks


This means by the end of Oct or Nov start fresh lot of approval/invitions letter wil be out... lets hope they have 4000 this time and mine as well as many others who have been waiting and suffering from years their pain, frustration and agony ends this December !
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