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Effective 6th April 2014.vinny wrote:Note that the new statement of changes in the Immigration rules prevent PBS dependants (prior to 9th July 2012) from switching to FLR(M) under 284 or 295D (56,58).
What options would Long residence PBS dependants have then?
They would be under the current partner rules and cannot take advantage of 287(a)(i)(d).
[quote="EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM"]7.11. Corrections are being made to enforce the intention that only dependants of individuals who qualified for settlement under the Points-Based System can apply for settlement as dependants of Points-Based System Migrants. Previously the Immigration Rules allowed dependents of those who qualified for settlement on the basis of long residence to also apply. The change will mean such dependants will need to apply for leave to remain under the rules for family members in Appendix FM before they can qualify for settlement.
[/size][/quote][url=https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/289857/HC_1138_EM_Web_Accessible.pdf]Implementation[/url] wrote:(c) With regard to the other changes, if an applicant has made an application for entry clearance or leave before 6 April 2014, the application will be decided in accordance with the Rules in force on 5 April 2014.
amjadleeds wrote:Hi everyone
I have really stress as you know applied ILR and got discretionary leave, Please can someone guide what is time limit to go for JR.
Second my son is going to be 10 year in this country January 2015, can he applied for ILR , he is under 18 and his age now 13 when he came in this country was 3 year old. Even main applicant period break for argument.
Third My wife can apply for ILR or not she was my dependent her 10 year going to complete in January 2015 too.
Fourth my daughter born here , she will be ten year old next year OCt 2015, She can apply MN1 or not
Please if any one give answer of these questions will be great.
My prayers with everyone those are waiting for their decision I know how much heard, I have waited 18 months.
Hope will see advice from some one soon.
Regards
Amjad
Hi imi99999,imi99999 wrote:Thanks shah g
My wife and two daughters came in nov 2006 as my dependant
My two child then born here and I know I can use mn1 for their citizenship after my ilr. Would there b any possibility that I could register my other daughters for bc, born in Pakistan and in uk since nov 2006 aged 10 and 11 respectively
They been back to Pakistan twice times since
1st 4 months in 2007
Than for 2 months this year
Your guidance will be appreciated
Also can you give my the link where it says that you can't combine PBS residency period with flr(m) thanks
[/quote]Amber_ wrote:Effective 6th April 2014.vinny wrote:Note that the new statement of changes in the Immigration rules prevent PBS dependants (prior to 9th July 2012) from switching to FLR(M) under 284 or 295D (56,58).
What options would Long residence PBS dependants have then?
They would be under the current partner rules and cannot take advantage of 287(a)(i)(d).
[quote="EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM"]7.11. Corrections are being made to enforce the intention that only dependants of individuals who qualified for settlement under the Points-Based System can apply for settlement as dependants of Points-Based System Migrants. Previously the Immigration Rules allowed dependents of those who qualified for settlement on the basis of long residence to also apply. The change will mean such dependants will need to apply for leave to remain under the rules for family members in Appendix FM before they can qualify for settlement.
Note that[/size][url=https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/289857/HC_1138_EM_Web_Accessible.pdf]Implementation[/url] wrote:(c) With regard to the other changes, if an applicant has made an application for entry clearance or leave before 6 April 2014, the application will be decided in accordance with the Rules in force on 5 April 2014.
GOd Helps wrote:Hey no news today so far
such a slow week
HO is enjoying holidays and we are getting so desperate
Mine is gone for sure on holidays till yestesday my case was not completed
ONE days they say assigned another day in the queue dont really understand them . just keep on tracking my special delivery number wat about youKashRIz wrote:What did they say...is it assigned to case worker????
GOd Helps wrote:Hey no news today so far
such a slow week
HO is enjoying holidays and we are getting so desperate
Mine is gone for sure on holidays till yestesday my case was not completed
GOd Helps wrote:ONE days they say assigned another day in the queue dont really understand them . just keep on tracking my special delivery number wat about youKashRIz wrote:What did they say...is it assigned to case worker????
GOd Helps wrote:Hey no news today so far
such a slow week
HO is enjoying holidays and we are getting so desperate
Mine is gone for sure on holidays till yestesday my case was not completed
GOd Helps wrote:HI iMI99999,SHAH1234 AND OTHERS
I HAD SENT HO an email relating to the nerw laws sharing the reply i\ got i hope this helps CHECK FAQS.
Thank you for your email. We are not able to answer external customer enquiries.
Please see our website to find contact information for your enquiry: https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi
Your email has not be forwarded. The Home Office does not provide immigration advice. If you need advice on your individual circumstances, you should contact an Immigration Advisor registered with the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC): http://oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/
You may find the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) below and links to guidance useful.
Angela Coupe
Operational Policy and Rules Unit
Family Migration Operational Policy
Immigration and Border Policy Directorate
Links to Guidance
1.Family Members – Partners and Article 8
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _1__1_.pdf
2.Family Members – Transitional Arrangements
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -guide.pdf
3.Family Members – Financial Requirement
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... I6.doc.pdf
4.English Language requirement for Leave to Remain as a Family Member
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... h_lang.pdf
FAQs
Question: An applicant was granted leave onto the family route before the 9 July 2012 change to the Immigration Rules. Do they need to meet the new Rules in Appendix FM at their extension application?
Answer: No, anyone granted leave on the basis of the Rules in place before 9 July 2012 will need to meet those Rules when applying for further leave or ILR. Please see the above Transitional Arrangements guidance on our website.
Question: Do all dependants of PBS Migrants who have been granted ILR need to apply for leave to remain as the Partner of a settled person?
Answer: This will depend on how the PBS Migrant applied for ILR. If they applied on the basis of being a PBS Migrant (for example under Tier 1 or Tier 2) then their dependants will not need to switch and can apply for an extension as a PBS dependant until they meet the requirements for ILR themselves.
If the PBS Migrant applied for ILR under the Long Residency provision, then their dependants are no longer considered as dependants of a PBS migrant and they must apply for permission to stay in the UK in another category.
Please see our website for further information:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rs-1-2-4-5
Question: A PBS dependant has applied as the Partner of a settled person, are they considered under Part 8 or Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules?
Answer: From 6 April 2014, all dependants of PBS migrants who apply for leave to remain as the Partner of a Settled person on form FLR(M) will be considered under Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules. They must meet all the requirements of these Rules (including the financial requirement where necessary). The above Transitional Arrangements guidance will be updated on 6 April 2014 to reflect this position.
A PBS dependant applying directly for ILR on form SET(M) will not meet the ILR requirements and they must first apply for limited leave on form FLR(M).
Question: What applicants need to meet the English language requirement for Partners and Parents?
Answer: Applicant need to meet this requirement if they are applying for Entry Clearance or Leave to Remain (LTR) as a Partner or Parent of a settled person on a 5 year route to settlement. They can meet the requirement in one of the following ways:
- By passing an acceptable test at a minimum level of A1 of the Common European framework of Reference (CEFR) with an approved provider; or
- By being a national of a majority English speaking country; or
- By having an academic qualification equivalent to a Bachelor’s or Masters degree or PhD in the UK, which was taught in English.
Question: Is the English language requirement for Partners and Parents the same as the Knowledge of Language and Life (KOLL) requirement for settlement and citizenship?
Answer: No, this is a separate requirement and asks for a different level of English. Passing the Life in the UK test does not count towards the English language requirement.
Question: An applicant needs to meet a qualifying period before applying for indefinite leave to remain (ILR). When does this begin?
Answer: If they entered the route overseas, the qualifying period will begin when they arrived in the UK. If they ‘switched’ into the route within the UK, the qualifying period begins on the date they were granted leave.
Question: Do dependants of PBS Migrants who apply for LTR as the Partner of a settled person begin their qualifying period again?
Answer: If the applicant was granted LTR under paragraph 284 of Part 8 of the Immigration Rules (following an application made prior to 6 April 2014) they can combine their leave as a PBS dependant with leave as the Partner of a settled person to meet the qualifying period under paragraph 287.
All other applicants must start their qualifying period again.
Hello Guyy was your application based on 10 years long residence?guyy wrote:Hi Everybody
I am new to posting on the site but have followed it closely for a while. I put in my application for ILR in october last year, did the biometrics in january and on 4/3/4 i received a letter requesting
- bank statements for month october 2013
- a letter from my employer stating my salary, my SOC code and if I was paid at or above the appropriate rate
- a letter from my employer stating why I had been absent from the country 4 times in the last 5yrs.
All this information was needed by 16th May 2014
My employer gladly provided all the information and explained my absences as sanctioned annual leave which was authorised. ( no more than 28 days)
My questions are these.
Is this standard practice and having provided all the documents ( bank statements where stamped printouts from my branch coz of time contraints.) and how long can i expect to wait for a decision.
Thanks
GOd Helps wrote:well shahjeel1234 honeslty i expect to see a lot of confused decisions in the future by HO. they have acually almost abloshied transitional arrangements except for old workpermot holders and they are calling this a minor change in the statemnt on changes.
their intention is not clear as the rules change are not reflected in the forms which they must have done.
if some one will not look at currect immigration rule on section 284 then that person will be definitely misguided by the form FLRM.
shahjee1234 wrote:Thanks a lot GOd Helps, that is great work, much appreciated. Basically they have really confused the rules for any one apply on FLR(M) after 06th April 2014. Home Office is a champion in shifting the goal post.
Kind regards
Shahjee
GOd Helps wrote:HI iMI99999,SHAH1234 AND OTHERS
I HAD SENT HO an email relating to the nerw laws sharing the reply i\ got i hope this helps CHECK FAQS.
Thank you for your email. We are not able to answer external customer enquiries.
Please see our website to find contact information for your enquiry: https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi
Your email has not be forwarded. The Home Office does not provide immigration advice. If you need advice on your individual circumstances, you should contact an Immigration Advisor registered with the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC): http://oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/
You may find the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) below and links to guidance useful.
Angela Coupe
Operational Policy and Rules Unit
Family Migration Operational Policy
Immigration and Border Policy Directorate
Links to Guidance
1.Family Members – Partners and Article 8
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _1__1_.pdf
2.Family Members – Transitional Arrangements
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -guide.pdf
3.Family Members – Financial Requirement
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... I6.doc.pdf
4.English Language requirement for Leave to Remain as a Family Member
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... h_lang.pdf
FAQs
Question: An applicant was granted leave onto the family route before the 9 July 2012 change to the Immigration Rules. Do they need to meet the new Rules in Appendix FM at their extension application?
Answer: No, anyone granted leave on the basis of the Rules in place before 9 July 2012 will need to meet those Rules when applying for further leave or ILR. Please see the above Transitional Arrangements guidance on our website.
Question: Do all dependants of PBS Migrants who have been granted ILR need to apply for leave to remain as the Partner of a settled person?
Answer: This will depend on how the PBS Migrant applied for ILR. If they applied on the basis of being a PBS Migrant (for example under Tier 1 or Tier 2) then their dependants will not need to switch and can apply for an extension as a PBS dependant until they meet the requirements for ILR themselves.
If the PBS Migrant applied for ILR under the Long Residency provision, then their dependants are no longer considered as dependants of a PBS migrant and they must apply for permission to stay in the UK in another category.
Please see our website for further information:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rs-1-2-4-5
Question: A PBS dependant has applied as the Partner of a settled person, are they considered under Part 8 or Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules?
Answer: From 6 April 2014, all dependants of PBS migrants who apply for leave to remain as the Partner of a Settled person on form FLR(M) will be considered under Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules. They must meet all the requirements of these Rules (including the financial requirement where necessary). The above Transitional Arrangements guidance will be updated on 6 April 2014 to reflect this position.
A PBS dependant applying directly for ILR on form SET(M) will not meet the ILR requirements and they must first apply for limited leave on form FLR(M).
Question: What applicants need to meet the English language requirement for Partners and Parents?
Answer: Applicant need to meet this requirement if they are applying for Entry Clearance or Leave to Remain (LTR) as a Partner or Parent of a settled person on a 5 year route to settlement. They can meet the requirement in one of the following ways:
- By passing an acceptable test at a minimum level of A1 of the Common European framework of Reference (CEFR) with an approved provider; or
- By being a national of a majority English speaking country; or
- By having an academic qualification equivalent to a Bachelor’s or Masters degree or PhD in the UK, which was taught in English.
Question: Is the English language requirement for Partners and Parents the same as the Knowledge of Language and Life (KOLL) requirement for settlement and citizenship?
Answer: No, this is a separate requirement and asks for a different level of English. Passing the Life in the UK test does not count towards the English language requirement.
Question: An applicant needs to meet a qualifying period before applying for indefinite leave to remain (ILR). When does this begin?
Answer: If they entered the route overseas, the qualifying period will begin when they arrived in the UK. If they ‘switched’ into the route within the UK, the qualifying period begins on the date they were granted leave.
Question: Do dependants of PBS Migrants who apply for LTR as the Partner of a settled person begin their qualifying period again?
Answer: If the applicant was granted LTR under paragraph 284 of Part 8 of the Immigration Rules (following an application made prior to 6 April 2014) they can combine their leave as a PBS dependant with leave as the Partner of a settled person to meet the qualifying period under paragraph 287.
All other applicants must start their qualifying period again.
shahjee1234 wrote:Thanks a lot GOd Helps, that is great work, much appreciated. Basically they have really confused the rules for any one apply on FLR(M) after 06th April 2014. Home Office is a champion in shifting the goal post.
Kind regards
Shahjee
GOd Helps wrote:HI iMI99999,SHAH1234 AND OTHERS
I HAD SENT HO an email relating to the nerw laws sharing the reply i\ got i hope this helps CHECK FAQS.
Thank you for your email. We are not able to answer external customer enquiries.
Please see our website to find contact information for your enquiry: https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi
Your email has not be forwarded. The Home Office does not provide immigration advice. If you need advice on your individual circumstances, you should contact an Immigration Advisor registered with the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC): http://oisc.homeoffice.gov.uk/
You may find the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) below and links to guidance useful.
Angela Coupe
Operational Policy and Rules Unit
Family Migration Operational Policy
Immigration and Border Policy Directorate
Links to Guidance
1.Family Members – Partners and Article 8
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _1__1_.pdf
2.Family Members – Transitional Arrangements
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -guide.pdf
3.Family Members – Financial Requirement
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... I6.doc.pdf
4.English Language requirement for Leave to Remain as a Family Member
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... h_lang.pdf
FAQs
Question: An applicant was granted leave onto the family route before the 9 July 2012 change to the Immigration Rules. Do they need to meet the new Rules in Appendix FM at their extension application?
Answer: No, anyone granted leave on the basis of the Rules in place before 9 July 2012 will need to meet those Rules when applying for further leave or ILR. Please see the above Transitional Arrangements guidance on our website.
Question: Do all dependants of PBS Migrants who have been granted ILR need to apply for leave to remain as the Partner of a settled person?
Answer: This will depend on how the PBS Migrant applied for ILR. If they applied on the basis of being a PBS Migrant (for example under Tier 1 or Tier 2) then their dependants will not need to switch and can apply for an extension as a PBS dependant until they meet the requirements for ILR themselves.
If the PBS Migrant applied for ILR under the Long Residency provision, then their dependants are no longer considered as dependants of a PBS migrant and they must apply for permission to stay in the UK in another category.
Please see our website for further information:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rs-1-2-4-5
Question: A PBS dependant has applied as the Partner of a settled person, are they considered under Part 8 or Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules?
Answer: From 6 April 2014, all dependants of PBS migrants who apply for leave to remain as the Partner of a Settled person on form FLR(M) will be considered under Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules. They must meet all the requirements of these Rules (including the financial requirement where necessary). The above Transitional Arrangements guidance will be updated on 6 April 2014 to reflect this position.
A PBS dependant applying directly for ILR on form SET(M) will not meet the ILR requirements and they must first apply for limited leave on form FLR(M).
Question: What applicants need to meet the English language requirement for Partners and Parents?
Answer: Applicant need to meet this requirement if they are applying for Entry Clearance or Leave to Remain (LTR) as a Partner or Parent of a settled person on a 5 year route to settlement. They can meet the requirement in one of the following ways:
- By passing an acceptable test at a minimum level of A1 of the Common European framework of Reference (CEFR) with an approved provider; or
- By being a national of a majority English speaking country; or
- By having an academic qualification equivalent to a Bachelor’s or Masters degree or PhD in the UK, which was taught in English.
Question: Is the English language requirement for Partners and Parents the same as the Knowledge of Language and Life (KOLL) requirement for settlement and citizenship?
Answer: No, this is a separate requirement and asks for a different level of English. Passing the Life in the UK test does not count towards the English language requirement.
Question: An applicant needs to meet a qualifying period before applying for indefinite leave to remain (ILR). When does this begin?
Answer: If they entered the route overseas, the qualifying period will begin when they arrived in the UK. If they ‘switched’ into the route within the UK, the qualifying period begins on the date they were granted leave.
Question: Do dependants of PBS Migrants who apply for LTR as the Partner of a settled person begin their qualifying period again?
Answer: If the applicant was granted LTR under paragraph 284 of Part 8 of the Immigration Rules (following an application made prior to 6 April 2014) they can combine their leave as a PBS dependant with leave as the Partner of a settled person to meet the qualifying period under paragraph 287.
All other applicants must start their qualifying period again.
guyy wrote:Hi Everybody
I am new to posting on the site but have followed it closely for a while. I put in my application for ILR in october last year, did the biometrics in january and on 4/3/4 i received a letter requesting
- bank statements for month october 2013
- a letter from my employer stating my salary, my SOC code and if I was paid at or above the appropriate rate
- a letter from my employer stating why I had been absent from the country 4 times in the last 5yrs.
All this information was needed by 16th May 2014
My employer gladly provided all the information and explained my absences as sanctioned annual leave which was authorised. ( no more than 28 days)
My questions are these.
Is this standard practice and having provided all the documents ( bank statements where stamped printouts from my branch coz of time contraints.) and how long can i expect to wait for a decision.
Thanks
amjadleeds wrote:Hi everyone
I have really stress as you know applied ILR and got discretionary leave, Please can someone guide what is time limit to go for JR.
Second my son is going to be 10 year in this country January 2015, can he applied for ILR , he is under 18 and his age now 13 when he came in this country was 3 year old. Even main applicant period break for argument.
Third My wife can apply for ILR or not she was my dependent her 10 year going to complete in January 2015 too.
Fourth my daughter born here , she will be ten year old next year OCt 2015, She can apply MN1 or not
Please if any one give answer of these questions will be great.
My prayers with everyone those are waiting for their decision I know how much heard, I have waited 18 months.
Hope will see advice from some one soon.
Regards
Amjad
Within 10 to 15 daysrehan01 wrote:Dear All,
I applied LR on 11/04/2014
HO Received on : 14/04/2014
Fees Deducted : 15/04/2014
just wondering how long does it take before we get acknowledgement and biometric letter?
regards