OLD FLR(M) waiting times Thread

kash_hash · Post by **kash_hash** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:25 pm

after a long wait ukba refused my visa, now i am going for a appeal.

bustednotch · Post by **bustednotch** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:28 pm

Oh no kash_hash! Can you tell us more about it please? So sorry to hear :(

Khadyja · Post by **Khadyja** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:46 pm

I am due to give birth next month. We submitted our application in May, completed biometrics in June, received a letter saying it is with a caseworker and then no news since. I've emailed my MP who is 'chasing it up' I got a standard letter from the Immigration MP basically saying wait your turn. My MP responded with a letter to me saying clearly that this Government are incompetent. It would have been nice for my husband to have better working rights and for us to be able to relax and enjoy life for a bit. It seems like I am shouting and no one is listening to me. I have called Mark Harper and emailed him he ignores all the messages. I've made a complaint against UKBA which they have lodged into their computers, this has had no impact. I've wasted time and money calling the enquiry line to only receive no information. It's just horrible, they don't care. May God help us

kash_hash · Post by **kash_hash** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:21 pm

bustednotch wrote:Oh no kash_hash! Can you tell us more about it please? So sorry to hear

see here detail:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=120961

rassell · Post by **rassell** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:01 pm

. My timeline is:

Docs sent: 30/05/12
Biometrics submitted 05/07/12

I have heard nothing since.
Thank you[/quote]

Claire26 · Post by **Claire26** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:28 pm

Spousal VISA for American entry into UK

VISA was submitted approx. 11th October.

Refused on 13th December.

On financial grounds for proof of income on self employment.

mojiao · Post by **mojiao** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:16 pm

I have been following this forum for a while.....it's very helpful to read all the post but also depressing at times. Finally my 8 month wait is over. I received my passport and documents today, with a letter saying BRP will arrive in 7 days. Might be a coincidence but I did send a complaint email a couple of weeks ago. Not sure whether it helped. Anyway here is my timeline:

FLR M applied: April 2nd 2012
Biometric completed: April 17th 2012
Passport and Document received: December 18th 2012
BRP: waiting

letitgo · Post by **letitgo** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:50 pm

We haven't received ack. letter and it's been 6months since we sent the application.. At this point we're not even sure if they have received it or not

We tried contacting them a few times (calling them or sending letters) but we either didn't get a response from them or been told that they cannot give details about the case yet.
Who to contact about this?

emyfraser · Post by **emyfraser** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:05 pm

letitgo wrote:We haven't received ack. letter and it's been 6months since we sent the application.. At this point we're not even sure if they have received it or not We tried contacting them a few times (calling them or sending letters) but we either didn't get a response from them or been told that they cannot give details about the case yet.
Who to contact about this?

Hi Letitgo - have they taken your money? If they've taken your money, then they have your application. There are a few people on here who never received an acknowledgement letter but the UKBA received the application.. I would probably double check that they have the right address for you, though. If they've not taken your money, then I think it's safe to assume they've never received your application. As far as I'm aware, everyone else on here had money taken right away. Did you get a tracking number when you sent it?

letitgo · Post by **letitgo** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:20 pm

Hi emyfraser,
thanks for your response! No, they haven't taken the money. We even started thinking that we might have made a mistake when writing down card details. At the same time I don't understand why they haven't contacted us about it. Before he had a student visa so maybe they are trying to contact him on the previous address? Could this be the case?
I also cannot believe that the parcel has gone missing since we have the receipt which prooves that we sent it to the right address and someone has signed it.

Could you tell me who to contact in this case? I think we tried every single postcode they have on ukba website and we haven't received not even a single response

To be honest it's getting more and more depressing!

Khadyja · Post by **Khadyja** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:38 pm

If you want to know if they have your application I would ring 08706067766. Select option 4, that way you talk to a human being. I emailed my MP to complain about the waiting time- he contacted Mark Harper who is the Immigratoon Minister who responded with a letter saying wait your turn, there is no point contacting Mark Harper direct he only respons to MPs however the letter confirmed the date the UKBA received the application. It's easy to contact your MP google their name and their office number and email should come up. If you email via the what do they know website a template is provided and they respond quickly too as they usually have a secretary.

Congrats on those getting their visa granted. For those like me still waiting God willing our time will come, and those with bad news God willing you will find a solution.

Still.Waiting · Post by **Still.Waiting** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:39 pm

mojiao wrote:I have been following this forum for a while.....it's very helpful to read all the post but also depressing at times. Finally my 8 month wait is over. I received my passport and documents today, with a letter saying BRP will arrive in 7 days. Might be a coincidence but I did send a complaint email a couple of weeks ago. Not sure whether it helped. Anyway here is my timeline:

FLR M applied: April 2nd 2012
Biometric completed: April 17th 2012
Passport and Document received: December 18th 2012
BRP: waiting

Congrate mojiao... great to hear April coming through now - sort of an exciting news!!!

Mojiao can you please tell me if they asked for any additional documents ?

Thanks

emyfraser · Post by **emyfraser** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:52 pm

Hi Letitgo

That is really weird that you have proof of delivery but nothing since then. I'm sorry I have no idea what to advise or who you could try to contact - many people have contacted their MP, so maybe you could take that route. I know it's so frustrating trying to contact them, I wish I knew how to get someone to actually speak with you!

letitgo · Post by **letitgo** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:21 pm

Thank you guys we'll try both phoning them and emailing them too.
Thanks a lot

MrsWillo · Post by **MrsWillo** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:42 pm

Thanks 'Backagain' - your message to me helped see things in a different light.

I am just worried i'll be rejected, as most applicants feel i guess.
Week 28, feeling apprehensive still.. everytime the postal lady rings the bell i silently pray it's my documents back! But... no... im still here, left waiting, imagining... and wishing! lol.

Im not going to think about it, going to enjoy christmas in Chester with my husband and his family, my new in-laws... and have an enjoyable 6 days with them all.

Thanks again... have a lovely christmas too.

Kyls x

backagain · Post by **backagain** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:38 pm

MrsWillo wrote:I am just worried i'll be rejected, as most applicants feel i guess.

My wife has taken up the task of monitoring the immigration process. Let me tell you a little bit about her and this UKBA thing. I am here on a fiance visa. Essentially, I've already gone through the process to be here in the first place. I passed the biometrics, we submitted all the necessary documentation to prove our viability, and she has a stellar reputation in the UK. Every scrap of paper we gave UKBA is ample evidence for our application.

Despite that, she still loses sleep at night. Worries about losing the love of her life because some immigration person sitting in an office has "control of our lives." (I disagree with that, but that is her perception). Worse of all, we cannot travel, I cannot work or volunteer. and UKBA is far from being a transparent, communicative, or efficient organization.

We are at week 37, so not too far ahead of you at 28 weeks. It appears that after 8 months April applications are now being processed. She called again today and the person at UKBA told her that mine is now with a caseworker. That is a significant turn for us. Yet, she is still nervous. In her words "I'll believe it when I have it in my hands."

The problem with constantly monitoring the immigration process and news is that you, me, and others build up our hopes on speculation. A proverb states "Hope deferred makes the heart sick." That is what happens. We fill our hearts with hope every time we sign on to a forum, scour the news for breakthroughs, or listen for the footsteps of the post person. Day after day, our hearts just sicken. I need to encourage my lovely wife to only go on here once or twice a week. Otherwise, I lose the beautiful, vibrant person she is to a weakened heart.

Not one drop of energy wasted on worry will effect your application nor will any amount of effort speed your application to completion. Be satisfied that you've done all you can, allow the thing to run its course, and live as much life as you can in the meantime.

The end of that proverb is "but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life." One way or another your longing will be fulfilled and it will produce life in the end. So hang in there.

(BTW. Except in cases of criminal history or fraud, those generally denied their visa are not personally rejected just their application for a variety of procedural issues. Minor issues are often resolved in the review process, many times affording the applicant opportunity to "fix" the problem by providing additional paperwork.)

backagain · Post by **backagain** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:01 pm

letitgo wrote:We haven't received ack. letter and it's been 6 months since we sent the application.

Consider requesting the sponsor's passport to be returned. Do NOT request the applicant's passport. Unless things have changed, that would be an automatic withdrawal of your applications. Requesting the sponsor's passport is a perfectly legitimate request and will force the document management team to enter something into the system. Two recommendations if you take this track:

1. Ensure you indicate in the correct block that you are NOT withdrawing your application. Also make a note in the block for the document you are requesting that you are NOt withdrawing your application.

2. Note in the appropriate block that the sponsor may need to travel abroad and requires their passport.

Follow this link to download the UKBA Word document. Attach and send the completed and saved form to the email address located on the bottom of the form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... return.doc

(BTW. Requesting the return of a document will NOT expedite an application. All it will do is get you the document you requested. We made a request for my wife's passport and our marriage cert in October, received the requested docs, still waiting for visa.)

CDNgirl · Post by **CDNgirl** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:45 pm

I don't believe that if you request an applicants passport back (as long as it is a legitament cause) that your application will automatically be withdrawn. Although you need to be very clear when sending the form that you DO NOT wish to withdraw the application.

hello32 · Post by **hello32** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:53 pm

Hi every one

I have got ILR under the 10 year long residency category in September 2012 nine year student and 1 year tire 1 PSW, my wife is living with me from last more than 6 years I went to Corydon for changing her states from PSW dependent to ILR dependent I did fill FLR(M) we went there they check us on ground floor and send us to 1st floor to pay fees then waiting hall after waiting of 40 min someone call us he check our documents and then ask us to go for biometrics after our biometric we wait like 2 hours then our name was called we went to desk and hand over all the documents to the case worker this time there was girl who asked us to sit behind and wait after 10 min she called us and asked me why we are there I explained her that I got ILR under the long residency I need to convert my wife visa she said that she didn’t need FLRM she is qualifying for settlement we didn’t need to fill FLR(M) we suppose to fill SET(M) as my wife PSW depend visa is going to expire in May 2013 the case worked told us that she was going to return our fee and we need to apply in April for settlement with SET(M) I asked her that was she sure about it she contact to her manager and senior case worker and they told her that according to 319c and 287(a)(i)(d) she qualify for settlement I asked her that if she could give me in writing it will be good for me then she said if she give me in writing she won’t give me my money back as she is working in my case, she said that she wrote in the system whenever we come for settlement anyone who deal our case will see that and grant my wife ILR now the problem is I have asked quite of few solicitors every one saying that my wife has to apply FLRM not SETM any one can give me clarification about it
Responses will be much appreciated

backagain · Post by **backagain** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:12 pm

CDNgirl wrote:I don't believe that if you request an applicants passport back (as long as it is a legitament cause) that your application will automatically be withdrawn. Although you need to be very clear when sending the form that you DO NOT wish to withdraw the application.

You are correct CDNGirl. That automatic withdrawal if requesting the applicant's passport does not apply to every person requesting documents. However, I suspect for the majority of people on this forum it does apply. That is why I prefaced my recommendations with that clarification.

The following comes directly from the page regarding request for the return of documents:

For all applications other than European and nationality applications, if you request the return of documents, your application will be automatically withdrawn and your application fee will not be refunded. For certain application types travel on an applicant's passport will invalidate the application and it would be deemed withdrawn.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/about ... documents/

CDNgirl · Post by **CDNgirl** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:29 pm

Thanks, I am just a bit flustered as I requested my passport back today(applicant) as my passport is due to expire. I assume ukba will need a New valid passport when they process my application...? Does that mean my application will be withdrawn? Not sure if it makes s difference that Im Canadian??

backagain · Post by **backagain** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:47 pm

CDNgirl wrote:Thanks, I am just a bit flustered as I requested my passport back today(applicant) as my passport is due to expire. I assume ukba will need a New valid passport when they process my application...? Does that mean my application will be withdrawn? Not sure if it makes s difference that Im Canadian??

Someplace in an earlier post, a couple months back, somebody mentioned requesting their passport back. They (in my opinion wrongly) suggested it as a means to get your application viewed. If I recall. they were asked if they wanted to withdraw their application. I believe that was before the online form was instituted.

If I may suggest, call UKBA and tell them your situation (re passport expiring) and that you requested your passport out of concern in that regard. Let them know that regardless of the status of your passport that you under no means want to withdraw your application.

Most things we fear can be circumvented if we are proactively engaged. Nearly every person we have spoken with at UKBA have been kind and helpful to the extent they are able.

oh.....don't forget to breathe.

Post by **Damanisshallo** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:17 am

hello32 wrote:Hi every one

I have got ILR under the 10 year long residency category in September 2012 nine year student and 1 year tire 1 PSW, my wife is living with me from last more than 6 years I went to Corydon for changing her states from PSW dependent to ILR dependent I did fill FLR(M) we went there they check us on ground floor and send us to 1st floor to pay fees then waiting hall after waiting of 40 min someone call us he check our documents and then ask us to go for biometrics after our biometric we wait like 2 hours then our name was called we went to desk and hand over all the documents to the case worker this time there was girl who asked us to sit behind and wait after 10 min she called us and asked me why we are there I explained her that I got ILR under the long residency I need to convert my wife visa she said that she didn’t need FLRM she is qualifying for settlement we didn’t need to fill FLR(M) we suppose to fill SET(M) as my wife PSW depend visa is going to expire in May 2013 the case worked told us that she was going to return our fee and we need to apply in April for settlement with SET(M) I asked her that was she sure about it she contact to her manager and senior case worker and they told her that according to 319c and 287(a)(i)(d) she qualify for settlement I asked her that if she could give me in writing it will be good for me then she said if she give me in writing she won’t give me my money back as she is working in my case, she said that she wrote in the system whenever we come for settlement anyone who deal our case will see that and grant my wife ILR now the problem is I have asked quite of few solicitors every one saying that my wife has to apply FLRM not SETM any one can give me clarification about it
Responses will be much appreciated

287(a)(i)(d) the applicant was admitted to the UK or given an extension of stay as the spouse or civil partner of a Relevant Points Based System Migrant, and then obtained an extension of stay under paragraphs 281 to 286 of these Rules and has completed a period of 2 years as the spouse or civil partner of the person who is now present and settled here;

We always thought this was the case, may be they've started to realise this.
However, sushdmehta once told me the below. May be this person can clarify your doubt.

sushdmehta wrote:How can the person in question use SET(M) form when FLR(M) leave has not yet been granted and the person's immigration category remains the same as the one that she was under (PBS migrant) before applying for FLR(M), by virtue of Section 3C?

mojiao · Post by **mojiao** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:07 am

No they didn't ask for any additional documents actually. I just suddenly receive this package one day. I think it might depend on who is handling the case...although mine is a rather straight forward one.

[quote="Still.Waiting"][quote="mojiao"]I have been following this forum for a while.....it's very helpful to read all the post but also depressing at times. Finally my 8 month wait is over. I received my passport and documents today, with a letter saying BRP will arrive in 7 days. Might be a coincidence but I did send a complaint email a couple of weeks ago. Not sure whether it helped. Anyway here is my timeline:

FLR M applied: April 2nd 2012
Biometric completed: April 17th 2012
Passport and Document received: December 18th 2012
BRP: in post[/quote]

Congrate mojiao... great to hear April coming through now - sort of an exciting news!!!

Mojiao can you please tell me if they asked for any additional documents ?

Thanks[/quote]

Still.Waiting · Post by **Still.Waiting** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:19 am

mojiao wrote:No they didn't ask for any additional documents actually. I just suddenly receive this package one day. I think it might depend on who is handling the case...although mine is a rather straight forward one.

Still.Waiting wrote:
mojiao wrote:I have been following this forum for a while.....it's very helpful to read all the post but also depressing at times. Finally my 8 month wait is over. I received my passport and documents today, with a letter saying BRP will arrive in 7 days. Might be a coincidence but I did send a complaint email a couple of weeks ago. Not sure whether it helped. Anyway here is my timeline:

FLR M applied: April 2nd 2012
Biometric completed: April 17th 2012
Passport and Document received: December 18th 2012
BRP: in post
Congrate mojiao... great to hear April coming through now - sort of an exciting news!!!

Mojiao can you please tell me if they asked for any additional documents ?

Thanks

Thanks mojiao, hopefully mine will come in the same manner - **fingers crossed**

Application sent: April 14th 2012
Acknowledgement: April 25th 2012
Biometrics: May 5th 2012
Requested sponsor's passport: July 10th 2012
Passport received: July 19th 2012
Contacted MP: Oct 16th 2012 (heard nothing thus far)
Documents received: still waiting
BRP received: still waiting

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