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by DJKH » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:25 am
Hi all,
I am about to apply for British Citizenship and I am wondering what to declare for the two following situations:
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned: "...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
2. I received a PCN from the council saying that: "... City Council, Parking Services have issued this Moving Traffic (PCN) as a warning"
Do I need to declare the above in my citizenship application?
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by contorted_svy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:04 am
DJKH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:25 am
Hi all,
I am about to apply for British Citizenship and I am wondering what to declare for the two following situations:
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned:
"...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
probably not a big deal but best to declare it
2. I received a PCN from the council saying that:
"... City Council, Parking Services have issued this Moving Traffic (PCN) as a warning"
If you paid it timely no need to declare it
Do I need to declare the above in my citizenship application?
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by DJKH » Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:13 am
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:04 am
DJKH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:25 am
Hi all,
I am about to apply for British Citizenship and I am wondering what to declare for the two following situations:
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned:
"...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
probably not a big deal but best to declare it Thanks
2. I received a PCN from the council saying that:
"... City Council, Parking Services have issued this Moving Traffic (PCN) as a warning"
If you paid it timely no need to declare it There was no payment required, they sent the Moving Traffic (PCN) as a warning!
Do I need to declare the above in my citizenship application?
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by contorted_svy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:46 pm
I am confused - PCN generally stands for Penalty Charge Notice. What was this exactly?
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by DJKH » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:16 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:46 pm
I am confused - PCN generally stands for Penalty Charge Notice. What was this exactly?
Please see below what's in the letter I received:
"Please do not send payment
... City Council, Parking Services have issued this Moving Traffic (PCN) as a warning"
Not too sure whether it is worth declaring this as a warning in my citizenship application.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
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by contorted_svy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:24 pm
It is difficult to understand with so little detail. It doesn't seem to come from the police though?
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by DJKH » Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:59 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:24 pm
It is difficult to understand with so little detail. It doesn't seem to come from the police though?
It came from the City Council.
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by contorted_svy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:00 pm
I don't think it needs declaring as you didn't even get a PCN.
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by DJKH » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:04 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:00 pm
I don't think it needs declaring as you didn't even get a PCN.
Thanks
So, I just need to declare the following case, right?
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned: "...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
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by DJKH » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:32 pm
DJKH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:04 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:00 pm
I don't think it needs declaring as you didn't even get a PCN.
Thanks
So, I just need to declare the following case, right?
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned: "...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
Would this be considered as a PCN? If not, do I still need to declare it as a warning?
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by contorted_svy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:50 pm
DJKH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:04 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:00 pm
I don't think it needs declaring as you didn't even get a PCN.
Thanks
So, I just need to declare the following case, right?
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned: "...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
Yes. No need to declare PCNs (even though what you stated seems not to even be a PCN just a warning)
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by DJKH » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:30 am
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:50 pm
DJKH wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:04 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:00 pm
I don't think it needs declaring as you didn't even get a PCN.
Thanks
So, I just need to declare the following case, right?
1. After being pictured by a policeman holding my phone during traffic (car not moving), I have received a letter from the police explaining what's the penalty for driving and holding a phone and at the end of the letter they mentioned: "...we decided to send this as a warning letter"
Yes. No need to declare PCNs (even though what you stated seems not to even be a PCN just a warning)
Thanks @contorted_svy
The application form asks:
"A caution, warning, reprimand or other out of court penalty"
Shall I answer yes and provide the details of that warning letter that did not even result in a PCN?
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by contorted_svy » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:48 am
It Is not a police warning, it was a warning from the council for a PCN that you didn't even have to pay. I don't personally think you need to declare it but you can still do so if you wish.
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by DJKH » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:13 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:48 am
It Is not a police warning, it was a warning from the council for a PCN that you didn't even have to pay. I don't personally think you need to declare it but you can still do so if you wish.
Thanks @contorted_svy
Even the letter from the police did not result in a PCN (a warning letter only). Shall I declare it by responding to the following question by YES?
"A caution, warning, reprimand or other out of court penalty"
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by contorted_svy » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:23 pm
As I said above. I think you should declare the first. The second is in my view less important and I don't think is necessary to declare.
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by DJKH » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:27 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:23 pm
As I said above. I think you should declare the first. The second is in my view less important and I don't think is necessary to declare.
Thanks @contorted_svy, much appreciated.
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by DJKH » Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:08 am
Hi @contorted_svy,
I have got my ILR via Global Talent visa and I am not sure which documents - other than English test, life in the UK test, and my passport - I should provide along with my naturalization application - please your help would be much appreciated.
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by alterhase58 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:24 am
Don’t forget the referee declarations.
The system will confirm what is required.
Unlike immigration applications the document requirements for naturalization a very few. No utility bills, bank statements or rental/mortgage agreements required. Your visa history is not relevant for naturalisation.
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by DJKH » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:13 pm
Hi @contorted_svy and @alterhase58
Is it OK to apply for British citizenship with my current passport expiring on the 22nd of April 2025?
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by alterhase58 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:16 pm
Yes.
Passport expiring during application is no issue.
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by DJKH » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:44 am
Thanks @alterhase58.
I have got my ILR on the 14th of March 2024 - can I apply on the 14th March 2025?
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by contorted_svy » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:51 am
Yes. Remember you need to prove 5 years of residence.
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by DJKH » Sat Mar 15, 2025 12:39 pm
Hi @contorted_svy and @alterhase58,
Is it ok to answer the following question by: The referee is a friend of the applicant for over 5 years. Knowing that both referees meet the requirements.
How does the referee know the applicant?
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by CR001 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 12:45 pm
You can simply state 'friend'. No need to elaborate etc.
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by DJKH » Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:49 am
Hi @alterhase58 and @contorted_svy,
I have just submitted my application and I got a list of documents to upload. Is it just a matter of scanning the passport and the other documents and upload them? Do I need to post the original passport etc...?
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