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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by hereorthere » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:38 pm

Hi,

I am filling out the online form AN for naturalisation and am very confused about the questions around English language requirements.

I am Canadian and therefore exempt from proving my English language skills. However the form still asks me whether I have a degree taught in English and how I am going to prove my degree (degree certificate or transcript). Since I do have a degree taught in English, I need to answer yes here, even though the form should not ask me this question (as I am exempt from proving my English skills).

Furthermore, when I get to the documents list, I am requested to produce :

-"The official transcript or letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

-"NARIC letter that confirms the qualification meets or exceeds the recognised standard of a Bachelor's or Masters degree or PhD in the UK AND confirm the level of English to which the degree was taught or researched"

AND

-"The Canada passport, identity card or official letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

Lastly, at the bottom of the list, it reads "You do not need to provide further evidence of your level of English because you are a national of Canada".

So in the end do I need to provide the transcript and NARIC letter or not?? This is super unclear.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:18 pm

hereorthere wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:38 pm
Hi,

I am filling out the online form AN for naturalisation and am very confused about the questions around English language requirements.

I am Canadian and therefore exempt from proving my English language skills. However the form still asks me whether I have a degree taught in English and how I am going to prove my degree (degree certificate or transcript). Since I do have a degree taught in English, I need to answer yes here, even though the form should not ask me this question (as I am exempt from proving my English skills).

Furthermore, when I get to the documents list, I am requested to produce :

-"The official transcript or letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

-"NARIC letter that confirms the qualification meets or exceeds the recognised standard of a Bachelor's or Masters degree or PhD in the UK AND confirm the level of English to which the degree was taught or researched"

AND

-"The Canada passport, identity card or official letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

Lastly, at the bottom of the list, it reads "You do not need to provide further evidence of your level of English because you are a national of Canada".

So in the end do I need to provide the transcript and NARIC letter or not?? This is super unclear.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
Tick NO to degree and English test!! The question is ONLY related to meeting the English requirement and not ho simply wanting to know if you hold a degree.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by hereorthere » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am

Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:09 am

hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
You are not lying. You simply ignore the English related questions if you are exempt and answer no.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Rubyduchess » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:27 pm

Hello
My 13 year old daughter and I are applying for naturalization in few weeks. I have filled out the form and on the list of documents to provide, they have put a letter of consent from the legal guardian(s) or parent(s) of the child.

Can I write said letter by myself as I am the parent even though I am applying at the same time as she is? I honestly would not want her father to be a part of this process even though his name is on the birth certificate. Please advice.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by kylelondonuk » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:41 am

hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
Hi there,

We are in exactly the same position as you - it just feels risky to say No to all of these degree/English questions where the truthful answer is Yes in some cases, and there's no guidance on the page to mention exempt countries (even though we are clearly exempt from the main gov.uk pages).

Have you submitted your application and/or been approved yet?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:50 pm

Hi,
When can you start your citizenship application? Its been 11 months as I have been granted ILR.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm

RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:50 pm
Hi,
When can you start your citizenship application? Its been 11 months as I have been granted ILR.
Once you have completed 12 months on ILR - if married to a BC you could have applied straight after getting ILR.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:18 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm
RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:50 pm
Hi,
When can you start your citizenship application? Its been 11 months as I have been granted ILR.
Once you have completed 12 months on ILR - if married to a BC you could have applied straight after getting ILR.

But can I start my application earlier and submitted after when I have completed 12 months.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am

RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:18 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm
RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:50 pm
Hi,
When can you start your citizenship application? Its been 11 months as I have been granted ILR.
Once you have completed 12 months on ILR - if married to a BC you could have applied straight after getting ILR.

But can I start my application earlier and submitted after when I have completed 12 months.
Yes you can start the application, but do not submit and pay before completing 12 months.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice - they will be ignored

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:32 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am
RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:18 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm
RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:50 pm
Hi,
When can you start your citizenship application? Its been 11 months as I have been granted ILR.
Once you have completed 12 months on ILR - if married to a BC you could have applied straight after getting ILR.

But can I start my application earlier and submitted after when I have completed 12 months.
Yes you can start the application, but do not submit and pay before completing 12 months.
Ok Thanks, but you know which website I can start the application because there isnt proper government website that I can find.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:38 pm

RK3285 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:32 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am
RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:18 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm


Once you have completed 12 months on ILR - if married to a BC you could have applied straight after getting ILR.

But can I start my application earlier and submitted after when I have completed 12 months.
Yes you can start the application, but do not submit and pay before completing 12 months.
Ok Thanks, but you know which website I can start the application because there isnt proper government website that I can find.
Really??

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by RK3285 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:52 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:38 pm
RK3285 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:32 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am
RK3285 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:18 pm



But can I start my application earlier and submitted after when I have completed 12 months.
Yes you can start the application, but do not submit and pay before completing 12 months.
Ok Thanks, but you know which website I can start the application because there isnt proper government website that I can find.
Really??

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an

Thanks CR001. To be honest it wasnt coming up in the search engine.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Hamada1981 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:36 pm

Hello guys
I need your help with completing the online form for naturalisation [long residence + ILR obtained 3 years ago].
Actually, I had 6 previous UK immigration applications and I can give the dates of the start and expire of each visa. However, I cannot give the dates of submission, biometrics taken or the reference number of some of these applications which the forms mainly asks for. How could this be sorted out? Am I allowed to write approximate dates in this case?

If my total absences in the last 5 years are more than 450 days but less than 480, what should be the answer to the following questions?
(1) Do you meet these residence requirements? Yes/No
(2) Are there any reasons why you cannot meet the requirements to become a British citizen (for example, you have had too many absences from the UK)? Yes/No

(3) If you do not meet the statutory requirements to become a British citizen, are there any special circumstances why you think the Home Secretary should still grant your application? Yes/No

And if the answer to Q2 or Q3 is No. Where can I write about the links that I have with the UK and explain how the UK is my Home now? Do I need to answer Yes to Q3 or can I write a cover letter and scan it with the documents?

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Hamada1981 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:40 pm

I was wondering if anyone has answers to my questions in the above-mentioned post.
I'd be grateful if you could help.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by october2013 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:34 pm

Apologies if this question has been asked before - cant find it though

A friend is applying for BC and initially started an online application but paused as she didnt have details of her referees.
She then proceeded to print off the hard copy, completed the relevant sections and also for her referees to sign the referee bits of the hard copy paper.

She has now had a change of heart and wants to complete the online app instead of posting her docs.

Her question is this - can she submit the online application and scan the hard copy references into it for submissions or is she required to get her referees to complete the online app referee forms as i understand they are in different formats pls.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Aragon1 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:24 pm

Hello,

I have sort of a unique problem and hope someone can shed some light in to it.

I'm a Non EEA citizen with ILR. In thee AN form, there is a section for entering the parents name. My current passport had both parents' given names but no surnames! It's been like that since my first passport many years ago and continued through renewals.

Will this cause any problems with my naturalization application?

Should I fill only the given names (as in my current passport) in the AN form or should I give full names including surnames?

Would I need to submit any additional documentation if I enter the full names?

Many thanks in advance.

Ta, A

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:30 am

Aragon1 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:24 pm
Hello,

I have sort of a unique problem and hope someone can shed some light in to it.

I'm a Non EEA citizen with ILR. In thee AN form, there is a section for entering the parents name. My current passport had both parents' given names but no surnames! It's been like that since my first passport many years ago and continued through renewals.

Will this cause any problems with my naturalization application?

Should I fill only the given names (as in my current passport) in the AN form or should I give full names including surnames?

Would I need to submit any additional documentation if I enter the full names?

Many thanks in advance.

Ta, A
Just give the full names as they are known officially / shown in their/your passport - you don't need to provide additional documents showing your parents' names. The names are requested in case applicants are already British due to their parents (it does happen sometimes!).
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Aragon1 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:40 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:30 am
Aragon1 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:24 pm
Hello,

I have sort of a unique problem and hope someone can shed some light in to it.

I'm a Non EEA citizen with ILR. In thee AN form, there is a section for entering the parents name. My current passport had both parents' given names but no surnames! It's been like that since my first passport many years ago and continued through renewals.

Will this cause any problems with my naturalization application?

Should I fill only the given names (as in my current passport) in the AN form or should I give full names including surnames?

Would I need to submit any additional documentation if I enter the full names?

Many thanks in advance.

Ta, A
Just give the full names as they are known officially / shown in their/your passport - you don't need to provide additional documents showing your parents' names. The names are requested in case applicants are already British due to their parents (it does happen sometimes!).
Thanks alterhase58. I will enter the full names of my parents as advised.

I was a bit concerned because my dad's & mom's surnames are different and my surname is yet another one. Typical for Asian countries but would appear strange in the West. To make matters worse my parents don't have passports and I don't have any official documentation with their full names. It'd be curious when I apply for my British passport and if they will just allow the full names of my parents without any proof. :?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:42 am

Aragon1 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:40 am
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:30 am
Aragon1 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:24 pm
Hello,

I have sort of a unique problem and hope someone can shed some light in to it.

I'm a Non EEA citizen with ILR. In thee AN form, there is a section for entering the parents name. My current passport had both parents' given names but no surnames! It's been like that since my first passport many years ago and continued through renewals.

Will this cause any problems with my naturalization application?

Should I fill only the given names (as in my current passport) in the AN form or should I give full names including surnames?

Would I need to submit any additional documentation if I enter the full names?

Many thanks in advance.

Ta, A
Just give the full names as they are known officially / shown in their/your passport - you don't need to provide additional documents showing your parents' names. The names are requested in case applicants are already British due to their parents (it does happen sometimes!).
Thanks alterhase58. I will enter the full names of my parents as advised.

I was a bit concerned because my dad's & mom's surnames are different and my surname is yet another one. Typical for Asian countries but would appear strange in the West. To make matters worse my parents don't have passports and I don't have any official documentation with their full names. It'd be curious when I apply for my British passport and if they will just allow the full names of my parents without any proof. :?
You are overthinking this process. Your British passport and naturalisation cert will be issued in the name of YOUR passport. Parents names are also NOT included in British passports.
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