Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Jambo wrote:

Mnc wrote:

jnp wrote:I and my husband want to apply for a British citizenship. We are both EEA Nationals. In section 2.4 Form AN, I need to state on what basis I was in the UK for the last 6 years. Can you please advise, what I should put down if I had 8 months gap in employment in last 6 years period. Just to add that I was employed in the UK since 2004. Thank you.

You could have been exercising treaty rights as a 'self sufficient person' so long as you can prove that you had sufficient money during that period and that you had the EU health insurance for that period. I am assuming you were still in the UK during those 8 months.

Or if your partner has been exercising treaty rights as well, just base your status on him.
If you are from A8 country, did you register with WRS as it was required at the time?

Hi, thanks for reply.
My case it is a bit complicated.
My partner has been exercising his treaty rights, however he had himself 3 moths gap in employment. Myself, during 8 months gap I was part time student. We both had at time savings, but what is exactly meant by ‘sufficient money’? Also, what do you mean by EU health insurance? Just to add that we both had at that time European Health Insurance Cards and Personal Accident Plan Policy. I was register with WRS back in 2004.
Regards

jnp wrote:

Jambo wrote:

Mnc wrote:

jnp wrote:I and my husband want to apply for a British citizenship. We are both EEA Nationals. In section 2.4 Form AN, I need to state on what basis I was in the UK for the last 6 years. Can you please advise, what I should put down if I had 8 months gap in employment in last 6 years period. Just to add that I was employed in the UK since 2004. Thank you.

You could have been exercising treaty rights as a 'self sufficient person' so long as you can prove that you had sufficient money during that period and that you had the EU health insurance for that period. I am assuming you were still in the UK during those 8 months.

Or if your partner has been exercising treaty rights as well, just base your status on him.
If you are from A8 country, did you register with WRS as it was required at the time?

Hi, thanks for reply.
My case it is a bit complicated.
My partner has been exercising his treaty rights, however he had himself 3 moths gap in employment. Myself, during 8 months gap I was part time student. We both had at time savings, but what is exactly meant by ‘sufficient money’? Also, what do you mean by EU health insurance? Just to add that we both had at that time European Health Insurance Cards and Personal Accident Plan Policy. I was register with WRS back in 2004.
Regards

Hi,

I wouldn't call it complicated - its just normal for people not have no work between jobs and take up part-time study.

As an EU citizen, you would have been exercising treaty rights, although, in different Capacities i.e.

employed or self-employed; or
studying; or
economically self- sufficient (meaning that you have sufficient funds to support you without requiring public funds); or
a jobseeker; or
retired; or
someone who has had to cease working in the UK owing to permanent incapacity.

Whenever you did not have a job, you could have been self-sufficient so long as you did not access public funds. It is mandatory to have European Health Insurance Cards when exercising treaty rights as a student or self-sufficient person.

I hope this helps.

Mnc wrote:

jnp wrote:

Jambo wrote:

Mnc wrote:
You could have been exercising treaty rights as a 'self sufficient person' so long as you can prove that you had sufficient money during that period and that you had the EU health insurance for that period. I am assuming you were still in the UK during those 8 months.

Or if your partner has been exercising treaty rights as well, just base your status on him.
If you are from A8 country, did you register with WRS as it was required at the time?

Hi, thanks for reply.
My case it is a bit complicated.
My partner has been exercising his treaty rights, however he had himself 3 moths gap in employment. Myself, during 8 months gap I was part time student. We both had at time savings, but what is exactly meant by ‘sufficient money’? Also, what do you mean by EU health insurance? Just to add that we both had at that time European Health Insurance Cards and Personal Accident Plan Policy. I was register with WRS back in 2004.
Regards

Hi,

I wouldn't call it complicated - its just normal for people not have no work between jobs and take up part-time study.

As an EU citizen, you would have been exercising treaty rights, although, in different Capacities i.e.

employed or self-employed; or
studying; or
economically self- sufficient (meaning that you have sufficient funds to support you without requiring public funds); or
a jobseeker; or
retired; or
someone who has had to cease working in the UK owing to permanent incapacity.

Whenever you did not have a job, you could have been self-sufficient so long as you did not access public funds. It is mandatory to have European Health Insurance Cards when exercising treaty rights as a student or self-sufficient person.

I hope this helps.

Thank you very much for your help. Now I am able to complete my application form. Thanks again.

Hi all,

I am in the process of filling in the AN form and I have a question I hope you might help me with.
I am applying on the basis of marriage to a British Citizen, I am a EEA national and also received PR card.

If at 1.3 I put the date on which I received my PR card, for questions 2.4-2.6 do I still need to enter all the details regarding excercising treaty rights for 5 years??

s_anda wrote:Hi all,

I am in the process of filling in the AN form and I have a question I hope you might help me with.
I am applying on the basis of marriage to a British Citizen, I am a EEA national and also received PR card.

If at 1.3 I put the date on which I received my PR card, for questions 2.4-2.6 do I still need to enter all the details regarding excercising treaty rights for 5 years??

If you have held your PR for more than 12 months then you don't have to fill in questions 2.4-2.6 but if you have held it for less than 12 months then you have to fill in this bit.

Hi all,
Urgent help.me and my husband both have to go for NCS harrow on 24th
October. we filled up old form (dec 2012) unfortunately one of the page got some problem. I tried to take print of that page today but now there is new form sep -2013. now I am confused which form we have to submit. it just we are saved from new rules applying 28th October, I mean English test.
please guide. please...

thanks

joy2006 wrote:

s_anda wrote:Hi all,

I am in the process of filling in the AN form and I have a question I hope you might help me with.
I am applying on the basis of marriage to a British Citizen, I am a EEA national and also received PR card.

If at 1.3 I put the date on which I received my PR card, for questions 2.4-2.6 do I still need to enter all the details regarding excercising treaty rights for 5 years??

If you have held your PR for more than 12 months then you don't have to fill in questions 2.4-2.6 but if you have held it for less than 12 months then you have to fill in this bit.

Thanks for your reply Joy,
As I said before, I will apply on the basis of marriage with a British Citizen and that means I don't need to have 12month of PR before applying, I would only need to be free from immigration restrictions on the day of application.(which I am, having a PR card)

kkhhyyaattii10 wrote:Hi all,
Urgent help.me and my husband both have to go for NCS harrow on 24th
October. we filled up old form (dec 2012) unfortunately one of the page got some problem. I tried to take print of that page today but now there is new form sep -2013. now I am confused which form we have to submit. it just we are saved from new rules applying 28th October, I mean English test.
please guide. please...

thanks

I think you will need new form, however as you are applying before 28 Oct, you will not need to take English test. I have PDF saved of old form, if you want I can email it to you.

Hello,

Anyone able to help?

My girlfriend is applying for citizenship on the basis as non-EEA family member.

This is her situation:

25/09/2007 - Arrived in the UK
09/06/2009 - Date stated on 'Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National'
08/05/2013 - Date stated on Permanent Residency label in passport


She is applying after 6 years of continuous stay in as Family member of an EEA National.

On the form, there are a couple of points that are not clear:

1.31 - Details of your partner
-> We are not married. The form defines partner as 'wife, husband or civil partner' - shall she leave it blank or shall we put my name? (considering that she is applying after 6 years as EEA Family member)


2.4 - 2.6 -> EEA Nationals exercising EC Treaty rights
-> GF has been in UK for over 6 years because I was exercising treaty rights.

Is she required to complete this section? Is it her details or mine (because I am the one exercising treaty rights)

Thanks,
Giruzz

giruzz wrote:Hello,

Anyone able to help?

My girlfriend is applying for citizenship on the basis as non-EEA family member.

This is her situation:

25/09/2008 - Arrived in the UK
09/06/2009 - Date stated on 'Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National'
08/05/2013 - Date stated on Permanent Residency label in passport


She is applying after 6 years of continuous stay in as Family member of an EEA National.

On the form, there are a couple of points that are not clear:

1.31 - Details of your partner
-> We are not married. The form defines partner as 'wife, husband or civil partner' - shall she leave it blank or shall we put my name? (considering that she is applying after 6 years as EEA Family member)


2.4 - 2.6 -> EEA Nationals exercising EC Treaty rights
-> GF has been in UK for over 6 years because I was exercising treaty rights.

Is she required to complete this section? Is it her details or mine (because I am the one exercising treaty rights)

Thanks,
Giruzz

Have you got the dates right? If she arrived in 2008, that's only 5 years. How did she manage to get PR before completing 5 years?

Jambo wrote:

giruzz wrote:Hello,

Anyone able to help?

My girlfriend is applying for citizenship on the basis as non-EEA family member.

This is her situation:

25/09/2007 - Arrived in the UK
09/06/2009 - Date stated on 'Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National'
08/05/2013 - Date stated on Permanent Residency label in passport


She is applying after 6 years of continuous stay in as Family member of an EEA National.

On the form, there are a couple of points that are not clear:

1.31 - Details of your partner
-> We are not married. The form defines partner as 'wife, husband or civil partner' - shall she leave it blank or shall we put my name? (considering that she is applying after 6 years as EEA Family member)


2.4 - 2.6 -> EEA Nationals exercising EC Treaty rights
-> GF has been in UK for over 6 years because I was exercising treaty rights.

Is she required to complete this section? Is it her details or mine (because I am the one exercising treaty rights)

Thanks,
Giruzz

Have you got the dates right? If she arrived in 2008, that's only 5 years. How did she manage to get PR before completing 5 years?

I'm an idiot. We arrived in 2007

giruzz wrote:

Jambo wrote:

giruzz wrote:Hello,

Anyone able to help?

My girlfriend is applying for citizenship on the basis as non-EEA family member.

This is her situation:

25/09/2007 - Arrived in the UK
09/06/2009 - Date stated on 'Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National'
08/05/2013 - Date stated on Permanent Residency label in passport


She is applying after 6 years of continuous stay in as Family member of an EEA National.

On the form, there are a couple of points that are not clear:

1.31 - Details of your partner
-> We are not married. The form defines partner as 'wife, husband or civil partner' - shall she leave it blank or shall we put my name? (considering that she is applying after 6 years as EEA Family member)


2.4 - 2.6 -> EEA Nationals exercising EC Treaty rights
-> GF has been in UK for over 6 years because I was exercising treaty rights.

Is she required to complete this section? Is it her details or mine (because I am the one exercising treaty rights)

Thanks,
Giruzz

Have you got the dates right? If she arrived in 2008, that's only 5 years. How did she manage to get PR before completing 5 years?

I'm an idiot. We arrived in 2007

Are you A8 national? Did you partner have any documentation under the EEA regulations before 2009?

Jambo wrote:

giruzz wrote:

Jambo wrote:

giruzz wrote:Hello,

Anyone able to help?

My girlfriend is applying for citizenship on the basis as non-EEA family member.

This is her situation:

25/09/2007 - Arrived in the UK
09/06/2009 - Date stated on 'Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National'
08/05/2013 - Date stated on Permanent Residency label in passport


She is applying after 6 years of continuous stay in as Family member of an EEA National.

On the form, there are a couple of points that are not clear:

1.31 - Details of your partner
-> We are not married. The form defines partner as 'wife, husband or civil partner' - shall she leave it blank or shall we put my name? (considering that she is applying after 6 years as EEA Family member)


2.4 - 2.6 -> EEA Nationals exercising EC Treaty rights
-> GF has been in UK for over 6 years because I was exercising treaty rights.

Is she required to complete this section? Is it her details or mine (because I am the one exercising treaty rights)

Thanks,
Giruzz

Have you got the dates right? If she arrived in 2008, that's only 5 years. How did she manage to get PR before completing 5 years?

I'm an idiot. We arrived in 2007

Are you A8 national? Did you partner have any documentation under the EEA regulations before 2009?

No, I am not A8.

She was under EEA treaty from the beginning when we moved to the UK.

Thanks,
Giruzz

giruzz wrote: No, I am not A8.

She was under EEA treaty from the beginning when we moved to the UK.

Thanks,
Giruzz

So she always held a status of unmarried partner of EEA national. Great.

For 1.31 - don't put your details as you are not married.

For 2.4-2.6 she will base her application on your activities as EEA national. She will also need to show you are still in a durable relationship. Basically, 2.4-2.6 is a mini EEA4 application. Have a look at form EEA4. What she needs to show there, she will need to show in form AN.

Jambo wrote:

giruzz wrote: No, I am not A8.

She was under EEA treaty from the beginning when we moved to the UK.

Thanks,
Giruzz

So she always held a status of unmarried partner of EEA national. Great.

For 1.31 - don't put your details as you are not married.

For 2.4-2.6 she will base her application on your activities as EEA national. She will also need to show you are still in a durable relationship. Basically, 2.4-2.6 is a mini EEA4 application. Have a look at form EEA4. What she needs to show there, she will need to show in form AN.

Thank you.

I-L-R-2011 wrote:Hi Guru's

I am filling my wife's application form AN on the basis of wife of british citizen.

I have the follwoing question:

my wife has indian passport and having her family surname on it, and we havent changed her surname on the passport after getting married.

We want to have married surname on the british nationality/passport.

What should I write while filling the form AN in following section: my surname or her surname as per the passport?

section
1.5 Surname/family name:
5 Name of the applicant:
6.1 Full name in block letter:



your advise would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

I read the whole thread but didn't find any reply for this question and also noticed that somebody else asked a similar question. I would be interested to know the answer as well and I believe it could be useful for other members in the same situation.

Could somebody advise, please?
Many thanks.

jnp wrote:

Mnc wrote:

jnp wrote:

Jambo wrote: Or if your partner has been exercising treaty rights as well, just base your status on him.
If you are from A8 country, did you register with WRS as it was required at the time?

Hi, thanks for reply.
My case it is a bit complicated.
My partner has been exercising his treaty rights, however he had himself 3 moths gap in employment. Myself, during 8 months gap I was part time student. We both had at time savings, but what is exactly meant by ‘sufficient money’? Also, what do you mean by EU health insurance? Just to add that we both had at that time European Health Insurance Cards and Personal Accident Plan Policy. I was register with WRS back in 2004.
Regards

Hi,

I wouldn't call it complicated - its just normal for people not have no work between jobs and take up part-time study.

As an EU citizen, you would have been exercising treaty rights, although, in different Capacities i.e.

employed or self-employed; or
studying; or
economically self- sufficient (meaning that you have sufficient funds to support you without requiring public funds); or
a jobseeker; or
retired; or
someone who has had to cease working in the UK owing to permanent incapacity.

Whenever you did not have a job, you could have been self-sufficient so long as you did not access public funds. It is mandatory to have European Health Insurance Cards when exercising treaty rights as a student or self-sufficient person.

I hope this helps.

Thank you very much for your help. Now I am able to complete my application form. Thanks again.

Hi, spoke to someone who said that European Health Insurance doesn’t count, I must have Private Health Insurance.
Can someone explain please?

In question 1.17 do I need to give an address of student halls where I have lived for 9 months from September 2011 to July 2012?

Does term-time address counts as a home address?

Usually a bank, SFE or university want a home address for contact rather a term-time address so I was wondering.

You can put home address if you had bank details registered at home address and then in other information you can give the term time address explaining that you were living in halls of residence.

neoseal wrote:You can put home address if you had bank details registered at home address and then in other information you can give the term time address explaining that you were living in halls of residence.

Thanks. Yes, all establishments had my home address.

So I will give an explanation on page 15 saying that I have lived in student halls from 09/2011 to 07/2012.

Hi Everyone,

I need some urgent help, please.
I'm applying for a British citizenship. I'm from an A8 country, EEA national.

My history is the following:

- arrived to UK in Feb 2007
- got employed from Apr 2008 but only acquired WRS in July 2010 when started a new job and found out that I needed to be registered
- also married to a British citizen for 2yrs now
- haven't got PR card or indefinite leave to entry/remain stamp in my passport either

My question is:

- when does my 5yrs qualifying period start? when i first came to the UK or when I acquired the WRS?

Many thanks in advance.

Read pages 3 and 4 of Booklet AN

If you are married to a Biritish citizen then a 3 year qualifying period applies to you.

You should be able to apply on that basis straight away. Given that you meet the other requirements listed in the booklet above.

If I'm not mistaken exercising Treaty Rights is irrelevant if you apply on basis of being married to a Biritish citizen.

Sutanapvirag wrote:Hi Everyone,

I need some urgent help, please.
I'm applying for a British citizenship. I'm from an A8 country, EEA national.

My history is the following:

- arrived to UK in Feb 2007
- got employed from Apr 2008 but only acquired WRS in July 2010 when started a new job and found out that I needed to be registered
- also married to a British citizen for 2yrs now
- haven't got PR card or indefinite leave to entry/remain stamp in my passport either

My question is:

- when does my 5yrs qualifying period start? when i first came to the UK or when I acquired the WRS?

Many thanks in advance.

When you acquired WRS in 2010 (unless you were self employed before or you can prove you had private health insurance/non UK EHIC).

Jaeger wrote:Read pages 3 and 4 of Booklet AN

If you are married to a Biritish citizen then a 3 year qualifying period applies to you.

You should be able to apply on that basis straight away. Given that you meet the other requirements listed in the booklet above.

If I'm not mistaken exercising Treaty Rights is irrelevant if you apply on basis of being married to a Biritish citizen.

You are mistaken. He needs to have ILR/PR before applying. Unless he got ILR, he will need to provide evidence of treaty rights for 5 years to obtain PR status.

[quote="Jambo"][quote="Jaeger"]Read pages 3 and 4 of Booklet AN

If you are married to a Biritish citizen then a 3 year qualifying period applies to you.

You should be able to apply on that basis straight away. Given that you meet the other requirements listed in the booklet above.

[b]If I'm not mistaken[/b] exercising Treaty Rights is irrelevant if you apply on basis of being married to a Biritish citizen.[/quote]
You are mistaken. He needs to have ILR/PR before applying. Unless he got ILR, he will need to provide evidence of treaty rights for 5 years to obtain PR status.[/quote]

Thanks for the info, guys. Still have some more questions...
The fact that I am married to a British citizen the 3 year qualifying period doesn't really help here if I still need to prove that I have exercised Treaty right for 5 years... or am I missing something?

Also what's the difference between ILR and PR other then the massive difference in the fees? Indeed, ILR is even more expensive than the naturalisation for an EEA member. So I guess it's easier?! (or at least cheaper) for me to get a PR card then go for the naturalisation.

Also do you know how long is the Life in the UK test valid for? As I passed it yesterday but it looks like I won't be able to use it just yet.

Thanks again.