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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by juggurnaut » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:04 pm

noajthan wrote:
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juggurnaut wrote:Hi,

I am planning to apply for British citizenship. I have got UKNARIC certificate which suggests I have equivalent Bachelor's degree and English level qualification. What should I fill in section 1.23 as it is bit confusing after filling all required details in 1.22?

Do I need to give any English language test even after I have UKNARIC certificate which says that my degree was taught or researched in English?

Any help would be appreciate.
Any help with this query will be appreciated!!!
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by juggurnaut » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:05 pm

CR001 wrote:
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juggurnaut wrote:Hi,

I am planning to apply for British citizenship. I have got UKNARIC certificate which suggests I have equivalent Bachelor's degree and English level qualification. What should I fill in section 1.23 as it is bit confusing after filling all required details in 1.22?

Do I need to give any English language test even after I have UKNARIC certificate which says that my degree was taught or researched in English?

Any help would be appreciate.
Any help with this query will be appreciated!!!
You need the UKVI NARIC ELA. When did you get ILR?
I have got the UK NARIC certificates. I got ILR back in June 2014.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:20 pm

[quote="juggurnaut"I have got the UK NARIC certificates. I got ILR back in June 2014.[/quote]
Then tick the box that said you met the requirement after 28 October 2013.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by safatafa » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:25 am

hi gurus
if my wife was a partner in a limited company in 2012 for 3 months and the partnership broke off do i need to declare that in employment history.
she is no more employed and doesn't have any dues with hmrc as this is self employment and she was well within her limits of taxable income?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:42 am

safatafa wrote:hi gurus
if my wife was a partner in a limited company in 2012 for 3 months and the partnership broke off do i need to declare that in employment history.
she is no more employed and doesn't have any dues with hmrc as this is self employment and she was well within her limits of taxable income?
Yes, it is employment. HO want ALL employment declared on the form.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by noajthan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:55 am

safatafa wrote:hi gurus
if my wife was a partner in a limited company in 2012 for 3 months and the partnership broke off do i need to declare that in employment history.
she is no more employed and doesn't have any dues with hmrc as this is self employment and she was well within her limits of taxable income?
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by faisal7412 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:19 am

hi all,
I am an EEA family member (non EU), I have got my residence card issued in Jan 2011 and PR card in Aug 2016.
my question is if I can apply for naturalisation as I have completed 6 years from the date of my RC issued, or do I have to wait for 12 months from the date of my PR card??

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Inci » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:03 pm

Hi,

I first looked into applying for naturalisation back in 2006. Then I passed the 'Life in the UK' Test. I still have the certificate.

Is this something that expires? I heard conflicting answers regarding it.

Thank you.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:32 pm

Inci wrote:Hi,

I first looked into applying for naturalisation back in 2006. Then I passed the 'Life in the UK' Test. I still have the certificate.

Is this something that expires? I heard conflicting answers regarding it.

Thank you.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Inci » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:43 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Inci wrote:Hi,

I first looked into applying for naturalisation back in 2006. Then I passed the 'Life in the UK' Test. I still have the certificate.

Is this something that expires? I heard conflicting answers regarding it.

Thank you.
LITUK certificate is valid for life.
Please do advise where it's stated that it is not.
Hi,

On one of the many messaging boards where people keep discussing these things. I can't find the original post. What seems to come up sometimes is that the test was changed a few years ago and older versions weren't valid anymore.

Glad it's not the case, one fewer issues to worry about.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by wf » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:42 pm

I have lived with my girlfriend for just over a year. I am claiming citizenship in my own right and not via her.

1.15 Marital Status - do I select single or unmarried partner?

If I select unmarried partner, do I fill in her details in 1.32 'Please provide here the details of your husband, wife or civil partner.'?

I assume not due to this wording as we are not married nor in a civil partnership, but it may conflict with the answer to 1.15

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:51 pm

wf wrote:I have lived with my girlfriend for just over a year. I am claiming citizenship in my own right and not via her.

1.15 Marital Status - do I select single or unmarried partner?

If I select unmarried partner, do I fill in her details in 1.32 'Please provide here the details of your husband, wife or civil partner.'?

I assume not due to this wording as we are not married nor in a civil partnership, but it may conflict with the answer to 1.15

Thanks
Unmarried partner and no, you only list the details if you are married or in a civil partnership.

You cannot apply for citizenship based on an unmarried partner anyway, what you are referring to is for a spouse of a British citizen.
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Biometrics details

Post by NatalieG » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:27 am

I obtained ILR in 2011 (no biometric card, there is a page in my passport with my ILR)

Prior to this I had a spouse visa for 2 years which was in the form of a biometric card

This card was returned to the Home Office upon issue of my ILR

I am now applying for british citizenship. In the section where is says 'have you been issued a BRP for a previous application of leave' I'm assuming the answer is yes

If so I am required to provide the number of this card, issue date and expiry date - unfortunately I am unable to do so as I do not have it

Please advise

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:13 am

@natalieG
as you haven't got a BRP for your ILR I think the answer is "No". Everyone applying for AN is required to do the biometrics anyway. Couldn't harm if you just explain the fact on page 22.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by NatalieG » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:18 pm

Thank you! Hope it all goes well

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by TimeInvariant » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:10 pm

Hi Folks

Hopefully in the right thread for this,

I applied for Permanent Residency last year - and got it (thanks for all your help on here!). I'm now applying for naturalisation. I have figured out most of the Form AN but have a few questions:

- You need to wait a year (or at least the application form suggests this) from getting PR to applying for naturalisation. However mine was a 'Document Certifying Permanent Residency' - I actually would have been valid for PR about 6 years ago as I have been living/working here for some time. Do I need to wait the year? Am also married to a British citizen

- I have a CU80 from 4.5 years ago - it was an FPN - not contested in court or anything. I accepted it at roadside, and paid the fine the next day - took the 3 points. From what the guide for the Form AN says, I must declare the FPN - but I'm not clear on which section it is declared in. Criminal conviction in Section 3.2? Caution/reprimand/warning in Section 3.6? I totally 100% want to be as transparent as possible - but can't tell if I'm filling this in wrong. In any case, I will bring the FPN information to the NCS meeting.

- Is there a downside to applying for naturalisation? e.g. god forbid, if they rejected my application based on the CU80 - would that have any effect on my permanent residency status? Is it simply - it would be rejected and I'd have to wait and apply again some other time?

- Presumably speed awareness course don't have to be mentioned in the application? I had one 9 years ago

Any and all help is much appreciated - I can provide more info to clarify if needed. Many thanks folks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:33 am

TimeInvariant wrote:some input from myself - others may also comment

Hopefully in the right thread for this,

I applied for Permanent Residency last year - and got it (thanks for all your help on here!). I'm now applying for naturalisation. I have figured out most of the Form AN but have a few questions:

- You need to wait a year (or at least the application form suggests this) from getting PR to applying for naturalisation. However mine was a 'Document Certifying Permanent Residency' - I actually would have been valid for PR about 6 years ago as I have been living/working here for some time. Do I need to wait the year? Am also married to a British citizen
Does your document show the date when you acquired PR? That's the important date, not the date of issue. If it's not clear I wouldn't rely on the date you think it is (applications have been refused because of wron PR date!). Consider doing an SAR.

- I have a CU80 from 4.5 years ago - it was an FPN - not contested in court or anything. I accepted it at roadside, and paid the fine the next day - took the 3 points. From what the guide for the Form AN says, I must declare the FPN - but I'm not clear on which section it is declared in. Criminal conviction in Section 3.2? Caution/reprimand/warning in Section 3.6? I totally 100% want to be as transparent as possible - but can't tell if I'm filling this in wrong. In any case, I will bring the FPN information to the NCS meeting.
It's not a criminal conviction, but declare and explain furtehr in the "Other Information" section.

- Is there a downside to applying for naturalisation? e.g. god forbid, if they rejected my application based on the CU80 - would that have any effect on my permanent residency status? Is it simply - it would be rejected and I'd have to wait and apply again some other time?
If application is rejected it will not invalidate PR status. In some cases they do give a time when you could apply again - best to avoid this situation!

- Presumably speed awareness course don't have to be mentioned in the application? I had one 9 years ago AFAIK no need to declare.

Any and all help is much appreciated - I can provide more info to clarify if needed. Many thanks folks
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by robtek » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:57 pm

Hi everyone,
I have two questions:

1. I had FPN (CU80) over 6 years ago which has been accepted and paid straight away. My license / counter-part is clean now, and according to Subject Access Request report my PNC is clear. Do I need to declared if that FPN is spent and not visible in Police database?

2. The guidelines states
Fixed penalty notices (such as speeding or parking tickets) must be disclosed, although will not normally be taken into account unless:
• you have failed to pay and there were criminal proceedings as a result; or
• you have received numerous fixed penalty notices.

Do I need to declare Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued by Council? The guidelines mentioned only about FPN and nothing about PCN.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by TimeInvariant » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:51 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
TimeInvariant wrote:some input from myself - others may also comment

Hopefully in the right thread for this,

I applied for Permanent Residency last year - and got it (thanks for all your help on here!). I'm now applying for naturalisation. I have figured out most of the Form AN but have a few questions:

- You need to wait a year (or at least the application form suggests this) from getting PR to applying for naturalisation. However mine was a 'Document Certifying Permanent Residency' - I actually would have been valid for PR about 6 years ago as I have been living/working here for some time. Do I need to wait the year? Am also married to a British citizen
Does your document show the date when you acquired PR? That's the important date, not the date of issue. If it's not clear I wouldn't rely on the date you think it is (applications have been refused because of wron PR date!). Consider doing an SAR.

Any and all help is much appreciated - I can provide more info to clarify if needed. Many thanks folks

Thank you - much appreciated - regarding this one, it specifies the date of the release of the 'document certifying permanent residency'. Darnit - I should have checked this closer before now :(
I am married to a British citizen - some sources seem to suggest this exempts you from waiting that year after PR?

I have an NCS appointment - would they likely tell me at this appointment if I got this wrong, in advance of formally sending off the application?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:56 pm

TimeInvariant wrote:Thank you - much appreciated - regarding this one, it specifies the date of the release of the 'document certifying permanent residency'. Darnit - I should have checked this closer before now :(
I am married to a British citizen - some sources seem to suggest this exempts you from waiting that year after PR? You are exempt then from the 12 months from date of PR requirement. You can apply as soon as you get/got your PR card.

I have an NCS appointment - would they likely tell me at this appointment if I got this wrong, in advance of formally sending off the application?
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