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Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by secret.simon » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:07 pm

Mahm256 wrote:Also still, his naturalisation application was logged in May 2014 before the good character amendments came into force in December which means, the new rules don't apply to his application.
It may be a technicality, but it was not a change in the rules in December 2014 that created this issue.

What changed was the definition of "good character" to include immigration offences, in addition to criminal offences, which already included earlier.

Good character has been a requirement since the British Nationality Act 1981.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by san2014 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:36 am

Mahm256 wrote:All above were wrong.

You judged san2014 partner's case without establishing the full facts. From what I have read, I believe that her partner arrived in the UK and applied for asylum, his case was delayed for years (that does not constitute to illegal stay) and also you should remember, some asylum seekers back then were granted permission to take up work.

Also still, his naturalisation application was logged in May 2014 before the good character amendments came into force in December which means, the new rules don't apply to his application. He still holds a strong case against HO. All he has to do is produce his evidence to show he applied for asylum on and was granted right to work. But this is not necessary because the new rules don't apply to him.

good luck
Thanks, I am trying and been asking for advice and as well seaking advice from the sicitors but they are asking for lots of money ;(

I hope I will do something.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by jasonyu1983 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:48 am

san2014 wrote:Hi
Thanks for the early replay

We need some help as we don't know what to do, what action should we take please??

This is the reason for the Naturalisation Application refused.


Your client was here without valid leave in UK between 17/11/2005 until 05/03/2014 when he was granted ILR.
Also he was not permitted to work during this time but he was working.
So you have provided documents which clearly shows that your client was working here between August 2006 - April 2014 WITHOUT permission and your client can not therefore satisfy the Criteria of Chapter 18, Annex D, paragraph 9.7 & c of the Nationality Instructions.
So your client application is refused.

He has been working in this country and I can not deny But he has payed his tax and worked with papers always and never claimed benefits.
Thats so unfair :(
What visa was your client on? I wonder what kind of visa does not allow your client to work? Even student visa would allow 20 hours a week. Plus, what documents showed your client was working during that period? It sounds that your client provided the documents himself.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by usman81 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:10 am

jasonyu1983 wrote:
san2014 wrote:Hi
Thanks for the early replay

We need some help as we don't know what to do, what action should we take please??

This is the reason for the Naturalisation Application refused.


Your client was here without valid leave in UK between 17/11/2005 until 05/03/2014 when he was granted ILR.
Also he was not permitted to work during this time but he was working.
So you have provided documents which clearly shows that your client was working here between August 2006 - April 2014 WITHOUT permission and your client can not therefore satisfy the Criteria of Chapter 18, Annex D, paragraph 9.7 & c of the Nationality Instructions.
So your client application is refused.

He has been working in this country and I can not deny But he has payed his tax and worked with papers always and never claimed benefits.
Thats so unfair :(
What visa was your client on? I wonder what kind of visa does not allow your client to work? Even student visa would allow 20 hours a week. Plus, what documents showed your client was working during that period? It sounds that your client provided the documents himself.
Sorry to hear that. Read again, it's written crystal clear that applicant was in UK without valid leave for long period of time. Any work carried during illegal stay would also be considered illegal. I strongly recommend to consult a solicitor.
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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by jasonyu1983 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:38 am

usman81 wrote:
jasonyu1983 wrote:
san2014 wrote:Hi
Thanks for the early replay

We need some help as we don't know what to do, what action should we take please??

This is the reason for the Naturalisation Application refused.


Your client was here without valid leave in UK between 17/11/2005 until 05/03/2014 when he was granted ILR.
Also he was not permitted to work during this time but he was working.
So you have provided documents which clearly shows that your client was working here between August 2006 - April 2014 WITHOUT permission and your client can not therefore satisfy the Criteria of Chapter 18, Annex D, paragraph 9.7 & c of the Nationality Instructions.
So your client application is refused.

He has been working in this country and I can not deny But he has payed his tax and worked with papers always and never claimed benefits.
Thats so unfair :(
What visa was your client on? I wonder what kind of visa does not allow your client to work? Even student visa would allow 20 hours a week. Plus, what documents showed your client was working during that period? It sounds that your client provided the documents himself.
Sorry to hear that. Read again, it's written crystal clear that applicant was in UK without valid leave for long period of time. Any work carried during illegal stay would also be considered illegal. I strongly recommend to consult a solicitor.
Yes, I can see that the applicant was in UK without valid leave. But "you have provided documents which clearly shows that your client was working here between August 2006 - April 2014 WITHOUT permission" sounds like the applicant provided some sorts of documents to show he was working, I am just wonder why the applicant would supply that document. Surely the applicant understands that he was not supposed to work.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Simroz » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:53 pm

Hi can anyone help,
I am confuse for neutralization how much clean history is needed?? 5 years or 10 years ????
Thanks in advance!

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by ScopeD » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:35 pm

Simroz wrote:Hi can anyone help,
I am confuse for neutralization how much clean history is needed?? 5 years or 10 years ????
Thanks in advance!
I think an applicant requires 10 years of clean history. This is the reason why UKBA asks for ten years of your employment history as they would like to be sure that during those ten years, you discharged your obligations with the HMRC and that you complied with immigration restrictions (i think).

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Wanderer » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:08 pm

Simroz wrote:Hi can anyone help,
I am confuse for neutralization how much clean history is needed?? 5 years or 10 years ????
Thanks in advance!
Castration is not a requirement for citizenship.
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Simroz » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:02 pm

ScopeD wrote:
Simroz wrote:Hi can anyone help,
I am confuse for neutralization how much clean history is needed?? 5 years or 10 years ????
Thanks in advance!
I think an applicant requires 10 years of clean history. This is the reason why UKBA asks for ten years of your employment history as they would like to be sure that during those ten years, you discharged your obligations with the HMRC and that you complied with immigration restrictions (i think).

Actually my husband was on work permit from 2008 to 2011 before he switched to my dependent visa. Problem is he didn't work for that company who issued his work permit so he was breeding the immigration law for 3 years. He got his ilr last year on 10 year basis abs due for applying his nationality. Do you thing he should wait for 6 more years because of above stated reason ???

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Gomjaba » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:39 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Simroz wrote:Hi can anyone help,
I am confuse for neutralization how much clean history is needed?? 5 years or 10 years ????
Thanks in advance!
Castration is not a requirement for citizenship.
It is not castration. Technically it means a chemical reaction where acid and a base form water.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Siraj ud-Daulah » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:12 pm

Gomjaba wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
Simroz wrote:Hi can anyone help,
I am confuse for neutralization how much clean history is needed?? 5 years or 10 years ????
Thanks in advance!
Castration is not a requirement for citizenship.
It is not castration. Technically it means a chemical reaction where acid and a base form water.

Er verwechselt Neutralisation mit Kastration :mrgreen:

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:16 pm

Siraj ud-Daulah wrote:Er verwechselt Neutralisation mit Kastration :mrgreen:
Can we please stick to using English as it the language medium used for the forum.
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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Siraj ud-Daulah » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:17 pm

CR001 wrote:
Siraj ud-Daulah wrote:Er verwechselt Neutralisation mit Kastration :mrgreen:
Can we please stick to using English as it the language medium used for the forum.
Sorry.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by ergin372378 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:48 pm

san2014 wrote:Hi
Thanks for the early replay

We need some help as we don't know what to do, what action should we take please??

This is the reason for the Naturalisation Application refused.


Your client was here without valid leave in UK between 17/11/2005 until 05/03/2014 when he was granted ILR.
Also he was not permitted to work during this time but he was working.
So you have provided documents which clearly shows that your client was working here between August 2006 - April 2014 WITHOUT permission and your client can not therefore satisfy the Criteria of Chapter 18, Annex D, paragraph 9.7 & c of the Nationality Instructions.
So your client application is refused.

He has been working in this country and I can not deny But he has payed his tax and worked with papers always and never claimed benefits.
Thats so unfair :(
hi my husband got refused for his naturalisation for the same reason your husband got refused for.
i just wanted to ask if you could give me advice what you did about NR form, did you send the form for reconsideration.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by Rassel » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:41 am

Any one receive approval after reconsideration.
Please share
Thanks.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by ohara » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:21 am

ergin372378 wrote: hi my husband got refused for his naturalisation for the same reason your husband got refused for.
i just wanted to ask if you could give me advice what you did about NR form, did you send the form for reconsideration.
Have a read of this: http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 84190.html

The Home Office takes a dim view of those who are here illegally, especially people who are also working. You are automatically banned from applying from naturalisation for 10 years from the date you become "legal". If you put an application in before this 10 years has elapsed, you will just lose your money and get a rejection

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by robbie2g2 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:52 am

I too have been rejected based on the good character reason. However I feel my case could be a bit different and was hoping I could get some advice on the matter.
I have been rejected on the basis that I had been illegal in the country prior to getting my refugee status and for working illegally in the country prior to applying for asylum. In short, I came into the country in 2002 as a student on a student visa which I stuck to its conditions mainly on the allowed working hours for students (that is 20hrs a week during term time and more during study holidays.). This I maintained up until 2007 and kept renewing. In 2007 I then applied for asylum and was registered as an asylum seeker until late 2008 where I was granted refugee status. I have progressed since then and now hold indefinite leave to remain. Recently my naturalisation got declined due to the fact that I was here illegally whilst I was an asylum seeker and on top of that I have been penalised for working whilst I held the student visa. I am lost for words as I believe when one is an asylum seeker, they are not necessarily illegal( I stand corrected) and that on a student visa I was allowed to work 20hrs a week and more only on holidays which I stuck to. So believe I haven't broken any laws. Any advise on whether I can challenge this using the reconsideration option would be appreciated.

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by orakzai1 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:18 pm

Hi guys
my application for natrulization got refused as I declared a traffic light offence in 05/2015 and got 100 pound fine and 3 points which was a fixed plenty notice and no court attenance but didn't elaborate this hoping the case worker will know this as they deal with these things on daily basis. The refusal says this comes under non custodial offence and I need to wait till 05/2018 before I can reapply. I have the fpn letter from police and fine pay slip as well. How should I word my appeal and what are chances of success? I don't have any other offences. Is there an exceptional grant minor offence category under section 10( of Chapter 18, Annex D) despite 3 years not lapsing since the date of conviction that i can apply under to get natrulization.
thanks

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Re: Any naturalisation application refused ? WHY?

Post by orakzai1 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:32 pm

Hi guys
my application for natrulization got refused as I declared a traffic light offence in 05/2015 and got 100 pound fine and 3 points which was a fixed plenty notice and no court attenance but didn't elaborate this hoping the case worker will know this as they deal with these things on daily basis. The refusal says this comes under non custodial offence and I need to wait till 05/2018 before I can reapply. I have the fpn letter from police and fine pay slip as well. How should I word my appeal and what are chances of success? I don't have any other offences. Is there an exceptional grant minor offence category under section 10( of Chapter 18, Annex D) despite 3 years not lapsing since the date of conviction that i can apply under to get natrulization.
thanks

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