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British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:18 pm

Hi

This question might be asked previously but wanted to confirm if the PCN's would affect the British Citizenship application and where do I declare them

All PCN's are paid or cacelled status - never had to go to court

Thanks

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:10 am

Any thoughts please?

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:17 am

krssubbu wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:10 am
Any thoughts please?
no it shouldn't do but they need to be declared as far as i know.

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:15 pm

I dont see a place to be declared where in the form is it?

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:46 pm

krssubbu wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:15 pm
I dont see a place to be declared where in the form is it?
Exactly what i am thinking. in Guide notes it says that all fines needs to disclosed but dont know where on form. the only place i can think of is Additional info....?

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:55 pm

3.1 - 3.2 You must give details of all criminal convictions both within and outside the
United Kingdom. These include road traffic offences.
Fixed penalty notices (such as speeding or parking tickets) must be disclosed,
although will not normally be taken into account unless:
• you have failed to pay and there were criminal proceedings as a result
• you received 3 or more fixed penalty notices at any level
• in the past 3 years you received 2 or more fixed penalty notices, at least one of
which, was at the upper levels (fine of £200 or more)

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:16 pm

Yes but where is it on the online form? - is it Additional info as you said?

others have you faced this?

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:37 pm

krssubbu wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:16 pm
Yes but where is it on the online form? - is it Additional info as you said?

others have you faced this?
i am in same situation waiting for others to reply on this.... :s

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:35 pm

Thanks alsanober

others opinion please?

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:35 am

Others please opinion?

CR001?

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by E44302 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:25 pm

Nope, if you have received Parking tickets for which you have paid £35 or £70 within the 14 day period without any court proceedings, I dont think there is any need to declare them.

I also think its not something which will effect the application.

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by makky86 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:41 pm

krssubbu wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:18 pm
Hi

This question might be asked previously but wanted to confirm if the PCN's would affect the British Citizenship application and where do I declare them

All PCN's are paid or cacelled status - never had to go to court

Thanks
PCN are not supposed to be declared. Its only FPN need to be declared.

Remember the PCN are issues to the vehicle not the owner. There can be many owners/drivers of that car.

Also, council don't share this information with Police or Home office.
II Youths a stuff neve endures II

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Re: British Citizenship

Post by krssubbu » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:59 pm

what is the difference between FPN and PCN?

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British Citizenship Checklist

Post by krssubbu » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:17 pm

Hi

I am going to apply for Citizenship and its a big money for me :) I have these document checklist and I am aware it changes for person to person but can anyone please comment if these general documents are ok for peace of mind?

For myself:

1. AN Form
2. Passport
3. ILR BRP
4. Life in the UK Pass certificate
5. Degree thought in the UK
6. Original degree certificate
7. P60 for last 5 years
8. Marriage certificate if spouse is also applying
9. Bank statements for the past 6 months
10. Council tax letter for this year
11. UK driving license
12. Naturalisation fee payment page
13. Passport fee payment page
14. references

Child under 10 years

1. MN1 Form
2. Passport
3. ILR BRP
6. Original degree certificate (Optional, check with NCS)
7. Marriage certificate for parents
8. Letter from Spouse saying no objection for child citizenship
9. Birth certificate for child
10. Mothers and fathers passport copy
11. reference letters
12. Naturalization fee payment page
13. Passport fee payment page

Please let me know

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:27 pm

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:30 pm

krssubbu wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:17 pm
Hi

I am going to apply for Citizenship and its a big money for me :) I have these document checklist and I am aware it changes for person to person but can anyone please comment if these general documents are ok for peace of mind?

For myself:

1. AN Form
2. Passport
3. ILR BRP
4. Life in the UK Pass certificate
5. Degree thought in the UK
6. Original degree certificate You state 'degree' twice, why? Do not submit a foreign degree if you have a UK degree.
7. P60 for last 5 years Not required
8. Marriage certificate if spouse is also applying
9. Bank statements for the past 6 months Not required
10. Council tax letter for this year Not required
11. UK driving license Not required
12. Naturalisation fee payment page Why aren't you applying online??
13. Passport fee payment page There is no longer a Joint citizenship and passport application service.
14. references What exactly do you mean by 'references'??

Child under 10 years

1. MN1 Form
2. Passport
3. ILR BRP
6. Original degree certificate (Optional, check with NCS) Not required OR relevant to CHILDREN
7. Marriage certificate for parents
8. Letter from Spouse saying no objection for child citizenship Not required
9. Birth certificate for child
10. Mothers and fathers passport copy
11. reference letters Again, what exactly do you mean??
12. Naturalization fee payment page Children are Registered, not Naturalised.
13. Passport fee payment page There is no longer a Joint citizenship and passport application service.

Please let me know
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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by krssubbu » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:38 am

Thanks CR001 - I just thought I would post it as another topic so that people can reference it and will benift them but no worries

So what I meant by references is 2 references who will have to sign the application form?
Also I understood its online, so is the citizenship and application separate now? Iam probably referring to NCS rule

I also travelled outside of UK for business and pleasure but all less than 90 days and 450 days in 5 years - should I still get a letter from my work place?

Anything else I have missed out in the list?

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by CR001 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:46 am

So what I meant by references is 2 references who will have to sign the application form?
So you are referring to the referee pages that you have to complete and they have to sign. It is part of the online form.
Also I understood its online, so is the citizenship and application separate now? Iam probably referring to NCS rule
What do you mean by the highlighted bit above??? What NCS rule are you referring to? Your posts are not clear to me.
I also travelled outside of UK for business and pleasure but all less than 90 days and 450 days in 5 years - should I still get a letter from my work place?
There is NO requirement to have letters from your employer for citizenship!!! You are NOT repeating the ILR process.
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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by krssubbu » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:34 pm

Thanks CR001

Sorry what I meant was, from reading, looks like Passport and Citizenship is separate now - it is not the same as NCS process right?

Second is Do i need a letter from employer saying what ever I travelled was for business reasons? (The absence is less than 90 days for a year and 450 days for 5 years)

Also is there anything I missed off the list - thinking about the big money if I missed it:)

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by CR001 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:38 pm

Sorry what I meant was, from reading, looks like Passport and Citizenship is separate now - it is not the same as NCS process right?
There is no longer a joint citizenship and passport service.
Second is Do i need a letter from employer saying what ever I travelled was for business reasons? (The absence is less than 90 days for a year and 450 days for 5 years)
NO!! There is NO differentiation between business and personal absence for citizenship. You are NOT repeating the ILR or visa process!!
Also is there anything I missed off the list - thinking about the big money if I missed it:)
I provided my relevant comments on your list of what is NOT required.
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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by kiks » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am

CR001 wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:30 pm
krssubbu wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:17 pm
Hi

I am going to apply for Citizenship and its a big money for me :) I have these document checklist and I am aware it changes for person to person but can anyone please comment if these general documents are ok for peace of mind?

For myself:

1. AN Form
2. Passport
3. ILR BRP
4. Life in the UK Pass certificate
5. Degree thought in the UK
6. Original degree certificate You state 'degree' twice, why? Do not submit a foreign degree if you have a UK degree.
7. P60 for last 5 years Not required
8. Marriage certificate if spouse is also applying
9. Bank statements for the past 6 months Not required
10. Council tax letter for this year Not required
11. UK driving license Not required
12. Naturalisation fee payment page Why aren't you applying online??
13. Passport fee payment page There is no longer a Joint citizenship and passport application service.
14. references What exactly do you mean by 'references'??

Child under 10 years

1. MN1 Form
2. Passport
3. ILR BRP
6. Original degree certificate (Optional, check with NCS) Not required OR relevant to CHILDREN
7. Marriage certificate for parents
8. Letter from Spouse saying no objection for child citizenship Not required
9. Birth certificate for child
10. Mothers and fathers passport copy
11. reference letters Again, what exactly do you mean??
12. Naturalization fee payment page Children are Registered, not Naturalised.
13. Passport fee payment page There is no longer a Joint citizenship and passport application service.

Please let me know
8. Letter from Spouse saying no objection for child citizenship Not required - thats actually required -as per online checklist for MN1 application.

"A letter of consent from xxxxx''s parent(s) or legal guardian(s)
The letter must:
give their full names and addresses
say that they agree to let you apply for a British citizenship
If you have more than one parent or legal guardian, they must both sign the letter and confirm that they agree
to what it says. If you only have one parent or legal guardian they must explain why the other parent is unable
to consent e.g. whereabouts unknown, no contact since MM/YYYY."

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by krssubbu » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:02 pm

Ok thanks CR001 and Kids - I have just take the letter in case if its needed - not going to hurt by taking it :)

The application form asked for "Do you have a National Identity Card" - is this NI number card or driving license?

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by CR001 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:07 pm

krssubbu wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:02 pm
The application form asked for "Do you have a National Identity Card" - is this NI number card or driving license?
No it is not. Ignore it.
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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by krssubbu » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:15 pm

So I chose No for myself and child? even though child has biometric and I dont have?

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Re: British Citizenship Checklist

Post by CR001 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:38 pm

krssubbu wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:15 pm
So I chose No for myself and child? even though child has biometric and I dont have?
National Identity card is NOT the brp card.
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