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A section for posts relating to applications for Naturalisation or Registration as a British Citizen. Naturalisation

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by MAS99 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:36 pm

Thanks

Can you please post the link to that topic and I will start posting in that group...

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:41 pm

MAS99 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:36 pm
Thanks

Can you please post the link to that topic and I will start posting in that group...
Did you not see the link I posted under the big red text and my reference to 'link below'??? The blue underlined bit??
MAS99 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:44 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:14 am
Can this topic please not turn into an 'application status check timeline' topic. There is the topic link below for such discussions.

british-citizenship/check-the-status-of ... -1280.html


Is anything in the above unclear regarding 'status check updates'???
But we are discussing status check updates.. We are just discussing why people applications are delayed... and reasons..
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by MAS99 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:07 pm

Information

No route found for "GET /british-citizenship/check-the-status-of-your-application-online-new-service-t232268.html%5Dcheck%20the%20status%20of%20yoru%20application%20online%20%28click%29" (from "british-citizenship/general-discussion- ... -2460.html")


That's what we get when we click on it...

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:10 pm

british-citizenship/check-the-status-of ... -1280.html

However, given that you have already posted in the status check topic in August, you should have known there was already a specific thread.

british-citizenship/check-the-status-of ... l#p1518709
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by matthew2222 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:03 pm

Hi there, my status was updated on 8th of November as Decided. I'm now waiting for letter with an aproval decision and hopefully positive outcome. Can I ask you what do i do after i recive this letter ? Do I have to contact Council in 21 days as some people say ? I read AN Guide but it doesnt say anything about 21 days rule only says ''You must make immediate contact with the local authority, as you only have 90 days
in which to attend the ceremony. The date by which you must attend your ceremony
will be given in your Home Office citizenship ceremony invitation letter. If you do not
attend the ceremony within 90 days without good reason, your application for
citizenship will be refused and you will need to re-apply.''
Do I also recvive 2 letters ? One with the decision and other from the council to book ceremony ? I'm a bit confused, please help :?

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by navinw » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:25 pm

matthew2222 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:03 pm
Hi there, my status was updated on 8th of November as Decided. I'm now waiting for letter with an aproval decision and hopefully positive outcome. Can I ask you what do i do after i recive this letter ? Do I have to contact Council in 21 days as some people say ? I read AN Guide but it doesnt say anything about 21 days rule only says ''You must make immediate contact with the local authority, as you only have 90 days
in which to attend the ceremony. The date by which you must attend your ceremony
will be given in your Home Office citizenship ceremony invitation letter. If you do not
attend the ceremony within 90 days without good reason, your application for
citizenship will be refused and you will need to re-apply.''
Do I also recvive 2 letters ? One with the decision and other from the council to book ceremony ? I'm a bit confused, please help :?

Basically, once your application is approved - you should get a
1. first approval letter -- saying your application is successful (not everyone gets this letter)

2. Ceremony invitation letter from HO - This letter will have the local council details along with the phone no, where you suppose to call and book your BC ceremony.
Ceremony should be booked with in 21 days from the letter dated in ceremony invitation letter and ceremony should be attended in next 90 days.

clarified ?

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Udani » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:59 am

Hi;

I am wondering if I can get an answer to my question. I applied for BC on 4th October 2017 via NCS, biometrics done on 19 October. now waiting for decision. Can I apply for British Passport before my BC application is decided?
Thank you in advance.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:49 am

Udani wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:59 am
Hi;

I am wondering if I can get an answer to my question. I applied for BC on 4th October 2017 via NCS, biometrics done on 19 October. now waiting for decision. Can I apply for British Passport before my BC application is decided?
Thank you in advance.
You can only apply for a passport once you are a British Citizen - that is when you have attended the Citizenship Ceremony and received your certificate, which needs to be submitted with the passport application (plus all uncancelled passports you hold).
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by kirkerj » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:19 am

MAS99 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:24 pm
kirkerj wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:22 pm
aabbasi wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:19 pm
kirkerj wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:52 pm
See I think that's really poor. They have had 5 months to assign (which I assume is the first step!). I would be at them the minute it flicked to 6 months. Don't let them drag this out for you
I agree. I mean i know all that privilege vs right stuff, but the point is you have an application and you haven't even assigned it to a case-worker. How did you manage to assign the September applications to case-workers?

I was actually looking forward to a decision in few days as most people have had to wait for 5 months from the date of receipt with home office.
You never know, this might have been a prompt for them to hurry up and allocate it. ALSO who knows what they mean by that-maybe the allocation is the last stage (after checks done by others), then the caseworker gets allocated and the application checked by them as a final review.

Its so non transparent so we may never know!
That;s correct.

They allocate case worker after all checks are done.. Case worker normally review all finding and finalise descion.

Just keep emailing them every few days just to remind them ..

Will emailing them all the time not just annoy them? I have only emailed once a couple of weeks ago asking if they needed any further documents.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by MAS99 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:32 pm

I don't think so.. they have generic response so you have to email them twice to see out information... otherwise same reply again and again.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Udani » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:45 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:49 am
Udani wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:59 am
Hi;

I am wondering if I can get an answer to my question. I applied for BC on 4th October 2017 via NCS, biometrics done on 19 October. now waiting for decision. Can I apply for British Passport before my BC application is decided?
Thank you in advance.
You can only apply for a passport once you are a British Citizen - that is when you have attended the Citizenship Ceremony and received your certificate, which needs to be submitted with the passport application (plus all uncancelled passports you hold).
thank you for reply. I thought may be by using NCS service there will be a way to apply for passport before BC application outcome (missed at time of BC application.)

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:40 am

Udani wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:45 am
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:49 am
Udani wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:59 am
Hi;

I am wondering if I can get an answer to my question. I applied for BC on 4th October 2017 via NCS, biometrics done on 19 October. now waiting for decision. Can I apply for British Passport before my BC application is decided?
Thank you in advance.
You can only apply for a passport once you are a British Citizen - that is when you have attended the Citizenship Ceremony and received your certificate, which needs to be submitted with the passport application (plus all uncancelled passports you hold).
thank you for reply. I thought may be by using NCS service there will be a way to apply for passport before BC application outcome (missed at time of BC application.)
You have only the one chance to apply for both. If you didn't do JCAP then it's the normal application later (same in my case, by choice though).
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Londoner999 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:36 am

Sakos wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:13 am
Hi Guys
Please can you check your application status using Biometric Residence Permit number and let me know the result. As It worked for some people. Thanks
Hi Sakos. It is the same for me - decided via BRP, awaiting decision via case ID. When I called them to clarify, the agent said that only the Case ID status is valid - i.e. awaiting decision. This is what they could see in their system as well.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by aabbasi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:20 am

Londoner999 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:36 am

Hi Sakos. It is the same for me - decided via BRP, awaiting decision via case ID. When I called them to clarify, the agent said that only the Case ID status is valid - i.e. awaiting decision. This is what they could see in their system as well.
Hi, When did you apply BTW? Also, what number did you use to call them?

I believe the BRP status is only about your ILR which has already been decided. Its the case reference number that matters.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by mlnvkj » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:23 pm

I applied for the UK citizenship on 8 June this year via JCAP service (eligible via 5 years of Tier 2 + 1 year of ILR), however my case has still not be decided according to the online tool.

I asked Home Office via email last week about the status and they said "All applications are dealt with in application receipt date order. As you application was received on 08th June 17, It will take a while longer for your application to be considered.". However, I see under the timelines topic here that even the applications that took the longest to be decided (unless there were issues) have lasted max 5 months. Plus I found out from a couple of friends who applied after me under exactly the same circumstances have already got the approvals over the last couple of weeks.

Any suggestion on what can I do to check the real status of the application, i.e. if something is missing etc?

Many thanks!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by aabbasi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:28 pm

mlnvkj wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:23 pm
I applied for the UK citizenship on 8 June this year via JCAP service (eligible via 5 years of Tier 2 + 1 year of ILR), however my case has still not be decided according to the online tool.

I asked Home Office via email last week about the status and they said "All applications are dealt with in application receipt date order. As you application was received on 08th June 17, It will take a while longer for your application to be considered.". However, I see under the timelines topic here that even the applications that took the longest to be decided (unless there were issues) have lasted max 5 months. Plus I found out from a couple of friends who applied after me under exactly the same circumstances have already got the approvals over the last couple of weeks.

Any suggestion on what can I do to check the real status of the application, i.e. if something is missing etc?

Many thanks!
Unfortunately, this is more of a blackbox. I reached out to a solicitor for a similar delay, and until the 6 month period has passed (which is HO guideline), their is nothing that you can do. I would suggest to be patient, as overthinking it actually affects your health. If they find something in your application worth questioning, they will ask you about it. All the best, and hope you get a positive decision soon!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by mlnvkj » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:46 pm

aabbasi wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:28 pm
mlnvkj wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:23 pm
I applied for the UK citizenship on 8 June this year via JCAP service (eligible via 5 years of Tier 2 + 1 year of ILR), however my case has still not be decided according to the online tool.

I asked Home Office via email last week about the status and they said "All applications are dealt with in application receipt date order. As you application was received on 08th June 17, It will take a while longer for your application to be considered.". However, I see under the timelines topic here that even the applications that took the longest to be decided (unless there were issues) have lasted max 5 months. Plus I found out from a couple of friends who applied after me under exactly the same circumstances have already got the approvals over the last couple of weeks.

Any suggestion on what can I do to check the real status of the application, i.e. if something is missing etc?

Many thanks!
Unfortunately, this is more of a blackbox. I reached out to a solicitor for a similar delay, and until the 6 month period has passed (which is HO guideline), their is nothing that you can do. I would suggest to be patient, as overthinking it actually affects your health. If they find something in your application worth questioning, they will ask you about it. All the best, and hope you get a positive decision soon!
Thanks a lot - I thought it was the case. :(

I was patient until now but now when I heard from a couple of friends that they already got it and applied almost 2 months after me is quite discouraging, it really does feel like it's a black box. :(

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by yankettegal » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:15 am

mlnvkj wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:46 pm
aabbasi wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:28 pm
mlnvkj wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:23 pm
I applied for the UK citizenship on 8 June this year via JCAP service (eligible via 5 years of Tier 2 + 1 year of ILR), however my case has still not be decided according to the online tool.

I asked Home Office via email last week about the status and they said "All applications are dealt with in application receipt date order. As you application was received on 08th June 17, It will take a while longer for your application to be considered.". However, I see under the timelines topic here that even the applications that took the longest to be decided (unless there were issues) have lasted max 5 months. Plus I found out from a couple of friends who applied after me under exactly the same circumstances have already got the approvals over the last couple of weeks.

Any suggestion on what can I do to check the real status of the application, i.e. if something is missing etc?

Many thanks!
Unfortunately, this is more of a blackbox. I reached out to a solicitor for a similar delay, and until the 6 month period has passed (which is HO guideline), their is nothing that you can do. I would suggest to be patient, as overthinking it actually affects your health. If they find something in your application worth questioning, they will ask you about it. All the best, and hope you get a positive decision soon!
Thanks a lot - I thought it was the case. :(

I was patient until now but now when I heard from a couple of friends that they already got it and applied almost 2 months after me is quite discouraging, it really does feel like it's a black box. :(
Luck of the draw! I applied 31 May. Still awaiting. When I contacted them a few weeks ago they said my application had been granted. It is infuriating and futile to do anything other than wait. And wait....

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by aabbasi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:35 am

yankettegal wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:15 am

Luck of the draw! I applied 31 May. Still awaiting. When I contacted them a few weeks ago they said my application had been granted. It is infuriating and futile to do anything other than wait. And wait....
Hello, How did you contact them? Via an email or Phone? Can you share a bit more detail.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by aabbasi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:58 pm

Hello All,

The online status has changed to "Decided" yesterday (after a wait of 5 months). Is their a way to check the decision before the letter arrives? I know some members have said that "when i inquired, they told me it was approved". Where do you inquire ?

Appreciate any help here.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by MAS99 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:28 pm

No , There is no online facility. You can call them but I doubt it they will tell you about decision over phone

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by aabbasi » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:35 am

MAS99 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:28 pm
No , There is no online facility. You can call them but I doubt it they will tell you about decision over phone
That is true. I called them and they didn't give me the decision on the phone.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by kirkerj » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:04 am

Has anyone noticed delays in the council getting the letter telling them you can book the ceremony? I have my approval letter (its one of the 2 in one letters) but when I rang the council they hadn't been informed about me yet. the lady was really nice and said they are a bit hopeless and slow at HO and if I called back Monday all should be fine. She also said to ignore the 21 day thing

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by yankettegal » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:06 pm

aabbasi wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:35 am
yankettegal wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:15 am

Luck of the draw! I applied 31 May. Still awaiting. When I contacted them a few weeks ago they said my application had been granted. It is infuriating and futile to do anything other than wait. And wait....
Hello, How did you contact them? Via an email or Phone? Can you share a bit more detail.
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply....I contacted them via email at the citizenshipsupport email address. Eight days later they sent me a pdf via email of my 2 in 1 approval/invitation letter. Unfortunately my council did not receive it in time to include me in last night's ceremony (they got it at 4:00pm). So for the princely sum of £100 I have scheduled a private ceremony tomorrow afternoon. I cannot complain as she could have made me wait for the original certificate to show up in the post. If that was the case, their next ceremony isn't until the middle of January 2018. My sanity is just about gone (along with my poor sainted husband). My online status is still "Awaiting Decision". You just can't make this up!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Arshsam » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:25 pm

yankettegal wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:06 pm
aabbasi wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:35 am
yankettegal wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:15 am

Luck of the draw! I applied 31 May. Still awaiting. When I contacted them a few weeks ago they said my application had been granted. It is infuriating and futile to do anything other than wait. And wait....
Hello, How did you contact them? Via an email or Phone? Can you share a bit more detail.
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply....I contacted them via email at the citizenshipsupport email address. Eight days later they sent me a pdf via email of my 2 in 1 approval/invitation letter. Unfortunately my council did not receive it in time to include me in last night's ceremony (they got it at 4:00pm). So for the princely sum of £100 I have scheduled a private ceremony tomorrow afternoon. I cannot complain as she could have made me wait for the original certificate to show up in the post. If that was the case, their next ceremony isn't until the middle of January 2018. My sanity is just about gone (along with my poor sainted husband). My online status is still "Awaiting Decision". You just can't make this up!
Thanks for sharing, can you please tell the matter how you ask and they send you the pdf... it will be really helpful for all of us...

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