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MN1 Sec 1(3) application - Certificate in hand in 24 days

Post by wpilr_nov12 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:24 am

Approved: more useful info here


With MN1 form applying under section 1.3, do I include the 'long form' birth certificate or the 'short form'?

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Post by CR001 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:32 am

Long - it needs to show who the parents are.
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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:33 am

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Post by CR001 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:34 am

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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:27 pm

I am working my way through the form MN1 (applying for 2 children under section 1(3) and following MN1 Guidance document.

Please advise if below are correct

Section 1
1.1 1(3)
1.2 BLANK
1.3 BLANK

Section 2
2.1 BLANK

Section 3 - Does not apply for my application category

Section 4 - Not applicable for children under 10. Both my children are under 10 (4 & 2 respectively).

Section 5 - Photo and Referees - self explanatory

Section 6 - Parents' names & signatures

Section 7 - Parents' names & signatures

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Post by adnanmirza » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:59 pm

hi,
Are you going to fill section 2.2 to 2.4?

I am applying for my child too as section 1 (3)

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Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:46 am

wpilr_nov12 wrote:I am working my way through the form MN1 (applying for 2 children under section 1(3) and following MN1 Guidance document.

Please advise if below are correct

Section 1
1.1 1(3)
1.2 BLANK
1.3 BLANK

Section 2
2.1 BLANK

Section 3 - Does not apply for my application category

Section 4 - Not applicable for children under 10. Both my children are under 10 (4 & 2 respectively)

Section 5 - Photo and Referees - self explanatory

Section 6 - Parents' names & signatures

Section 7 - Parents' names & signatures

Thanks for your help.
Sorry for the delay in responding. All your answers are correct wpilr_nov12

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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:23 am

CR001 wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding. All your answers are correct wpilr_nov12

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adnanmirza wrote:hi,
Are you going to fill section 2.2 to 2.4?

I am applying for my child too as section 1 (3)

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2.2 we have lived at one address only. So only one entry for us.
2.3 No absences from UK. So nothing to fill.
2.4 UK
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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:48 am

Follow up question :

- on page 3 of MN1 form, where exactly do I put the First name of the child?

1.5 Surname/Family Name SHARMA
1.6 Other names (if different from the name shown on the child's passport (doesn't have one)/birth certificate, please explain why on page 13 of the form.)
1.7 If the child is or has ever been known by any name or names apart from those mentioned above, please give details here.

The full name of the child is:
First name PRAVEEN
Surname SHARMA.

1.16 Present addressPhone numbers - is it OK to give my phone and email? A child 2 yr old doesn't have his own phone or email yet.

1.39 (page 6) Date of parents' marriage or civil partnership Am I required to submit marriage certificate as well?


PAYMENT - how/where do I mention 2 MN1 applicants on the payment form?


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Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:19 pm

wpilr_nov12 wrote:Follow up question :

- on page 3 of MN1 form, where exactly do I put the First name of the child?

1.5 Surname/Family Name SHARMA
1.6 Other names (if different from the name shown on the child's passport (doesn't have one)/birth certificate, please explain why on page 13 of the form.) - This is were you put the first name
1.7 If the child is or has ever been known by any name or names apart from those mentioned above, please give details here. - Leave blank if not applicable

The full name of the child is:
First name PRAVEEN
Surname SHARMA.

1.16 Present addressPhone numbers - is it OK to give my phone and email? A child 2 yr old doesn't have his own phone or email yet. - Yes

1.39 (page 6) Date of parents' marriage or civil partnership Am I required to submit marriage certificate as well? - Not sure, if using NCS I would check with them but it won't do any harm in sending it


PAYMENT - how/where do I mention 2 MN1 applicants on the payment form? If applying through NCS, best to check with them as you get a reduced fee for two children


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Post by adnanmirza » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:32 pm

hi
Can you please tell do I (father) need to submit my passport or ILR card with the childs MN1 form?

It is not stated in the form to attach these but I have read some members are saying that father needs to send his ILR card or passport

N.B : I am planning to send the application via post without using NCS

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Post by adnanmirza » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:36 pm

hi,
Are we not suppose to fill 1.2?
If not then how Home Office will know our (father) ILR status. As far as my understanding goes, MN1 does not require you to send your ILR biometric card to Home Office

Please correct me if I am wrong

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Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:37 pm

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... documents/

The small fee that NCS charges is really worth it as you get to keep your original documents and they can tell you what they need to include in your application and take the appropriate copies.
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Post by adnanmirza » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:48 pm

thanks for the reply?
Is filling section 1.2 not enough for Home office?

Page 30 of the guidance document lists documents to include with MN1. Now this list is not stating father's ILR. Please correct me if I am wrong

Also my child current dependant visa (dependant of Tier 1 general) will be expired in few weeks. Do I need to send MN1 before visa expiry date? My child was born in uk and I did not apply for her ILR with me. If I apply late, will that count as illegal stay as current visa will be expired in few days?

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Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:50 pm

Visa expiry will not have any effect on MN1 as child was born in the UK and will not be an overstayer.

Fill in 1.2 with your reference number, that should be sufficient.
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Post by adnanmirza » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:53 pm

thanks for the reply

Do you think the below are the only documents to send with MN1?

Evidence from children living in the United Kingdom
You should provide:

the child's full birth certificate; and
the child's passport used on entry to the United Kingdom and any other subsequent passports; and
the parents' marriage or civil partnership certificate.

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Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:54 pm

That is what UKBA website says. But I would still recommend using NCS, its a small fee to double check your application supporting documents are correct and you will be able to keep all your original documents and passports.
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Post by Somudro » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:38 pm

wpilr_nov12 wrote:I

Section 3 - Does not apply for my application category
Why not applicable?

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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:05 pm

The long answer is on page 21 top introductory paragraph of the MN1 Guide.
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Post by Somudro » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:47 am

wpilr_nov12 wrote:The long answer is on page 21 top introductory paragraph of the MN1 Guide.
If you dont mind, What is the short answer?

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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:05 am

Section 3 of MN1 form does not apply if the child is applying under Section 1(3) or 3(1) of the Act.

Please read the document mentioned earlier.
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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:32 am

Got the Registration done and received approvals and docs back. Certificate Received. Application sent (posted) 7/1/2013. Certificate received 31/1/2013. Total 24 days.

Photo:
used my DSLR camera, took pictures at home, processed online (free) to meet UKBA specs, printed at Tesco, total for 2 kids = 30p.

Documents supplied:
copies of both parents ILR approval letter, BRP card, marriage certificate,
original of Long form birth certificates both kids.
No passports or copies supplied, kids don't already have thier own passports.
Did not certify any copies.

Referees:
1 Accountant by profession - does not have BC, my acquaintance
2 Wife's friend - with BC

Payment:
Bank draft for £827.00. (plus extra £20 bank charge) On payment form, mentioned both names.

Cover letter:
mentioned payment was for joint applicants (with names)
list of documents submitted.

Did not use NCS - saved £80, half day's salary, travel expenses,

Posted Signed-for £6.XX
Included return SASE £6.XX.
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Post by kiranchinnu » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:22 pm

wpilr_nov12 wrote:Got the Registration done and received approvals and docs back. Waiting for BC certificates. Total 23 days.

Photo:
used my DSLR camera, took pictures at home, processed online (free) to meet UKBA specs, printed at Tesco, total for 2 kids = 30p.

Documents supplied:
copies of both parents ILR approval letter, BRP card, marriage certificate,
original of Long form birth certificates both kids.
No passports or copies supplied, kids don't already have thier own passports.
Did not certify any copies.

Referees:
1 Accountant by profession - does not have BC, my acquaintance
2 Wife's friend - with BC

Payment:
Bank draft for £827.00. (plus extra £20 bank charge) On payment form, mentioned both names.

Cover letter:
mentioned payment was for joint applicants (with names)
list of documents submitted.

Did not use NCS - saved £80, half day's salary, travel expenses,

Posted Signed-for £6.XX
Included return SASE £6.XX.
Congrats .I have applied for my baby on 11th January , looking at your time scales i am expecting it in next ten days.
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Post by alok_singh » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:37 pm

Can you please help in filling the MN1 Form , I am also applying under section 1(3) Got my ILR last month.

wpilr_nov12 wrote:I am working my way through the form MN1 (applying for 2 children under section 1(3) and following MN1 Guidance document.

Please advise if below are correct

Section 1
1.1 1(3)
1.2 BLANK
I think section 1.2 should not be blank but should contain the UKBA reference number for the parent who has ILR or BC from MN1 Guidance notes. Since you has send the copy of UKBA ILR letter it should had been fine.
Question I have do i need to put the BRP reference number of or the refence number from the letter issue at PEO office.

1.3 BLANK
1.36 Mother ILR still to apply : Leave it blank

Section 2
2.1 BLANK

Section 3 - Does not apply for my application category

Section 4 - Not applicable for children under 10. Both my children are under 10 (4 & 2 respectively).

Section 5 - Photo and Referees - self explanatory
Section 6 - Parents' names & signatures
Section 6.5 Child consent did you filled this section and used thumb impression or left is blank ?
Section 7 - Parents' names & signatures

Thanks for your help.
If not using NCS do we need to send the child original passport

Please help.

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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:54 pm

My children did not do anything besides standing still for the photo. No thumb prints.

My children did not have previous passport, so I did not have anything to send.

Not sure if both parents ILR required for section 1(3) application.

It is usually the ref no on the letter
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