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Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by mjm9691 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:25 am

Please clarify the following confusion, assuming I have both dual national valid passports and no Nicop:

1 Which passport should I show at airline check in counter in UK
2. Which passport I should show while exiting UK immigration
3. Which passport line I should be in when going through immigration on arrival in Pakistan
4. Which passport should I show to the immigration officer at entry in Pakistan for arrival stamping
5. While leaving Pakistan which passport should I show at airline check in counter
6. Which passport should I show to immigration officer on exit from Pakistan for exit stamp
7. As I will show British passport on arrival in UK, should it have exit stamp when I left Pakistan

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by noajthan » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:51 am

Show both. Let airline and immigration staff/ border guards figure it out - that's their job.

Make sure name and number matches on flight booking.
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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by ohara » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:27 am

I believe it would be something as follows (but to make your life easier, just show both at every step and let them figure it out)

1. Probably your Pakistani passport, as British citizens are not visa free to Pakistan
2. Doesn't matter
3. Home citizens line as it's your own country!
4. Pakistani
5. Probably your British passport, as Pakistani citizens are not visa free to UK
6. Almost certainly your Pakistani passport
7. Doesn't matter

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by mjm9691 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:12 am

That means when I arrive in UK there will be no stamp on my British passport when leaving the UK and when arriving back. How does that affect my travelling and where is the proof of leaving and at entry in UK. Shouldn't my British passport be stamped also when exiting Pakistan.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by CR001 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:16 am

mjm9691 wrote:That means when I arrive in UK there will be no stamp on my British passport when leaving the UK and when arriving back. How does that affect my travelling and where is the proof of leaving and at entry in UK. Shouldn't my British passport be stamped also when exiting Pakistan.
You don't need a stamp in your British passport. It is all electronic now. Why do you think you will need stamps in your BC passport??
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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by mjm9691 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:06 pm

Let's put it this way then what is the proof when I left UK? and on arrival where did I come from when my British passport is scanned

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by CR001 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:18 pm

Your passport is scanned on departure.

Why does this even matter in regards to your British passport :?:
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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by noajthan » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:51 pm

mjm9691 wrote:Let's put it this way then what is the proof when I left UK? and on arrival where did I come from when my British passport is sca
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These days you are tracked even before you hit the airport and then every step of the way.
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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by mjm9691 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:54 pm

As the airline will ask for Pakistani passport as I don't have visa for Pakistan when leaving UK so that passport will be scanned. So when does my British passport get scanned ?

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by CR001 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:59 pm

CR001 wrote:Why does this even matter in regards to your British passport :?:
I don't understand why you think there is an issue :shock:

What are you trying to achieve with this issue :?:
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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by crimson76 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:42 pm

Solution is to get nicop from pakistani HC. You can use pakistani passport for entry in pakistan but what will you do at the time of exit from Pakistan? There will be no visa or entry stamp on your british passport and you probably have no valid visa on your Pakistani passport. Pakistani authorities will not let you exit for travel to UK on a British passport that does not has pakistani visa and entry stamp. Do not complicate things either get pakistani visa or nicop and use your british passport for travel.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by mjm9691 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:54 pm

Crimson76 has worried me more can you elaborate on that cr001. I don't need a Nicop I have a valid Pakistani passport.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by ohara » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:37 am

mjm9691 wrote:That means when I arrive in UK there will be no stamp on my British passport when leaving the UK and when arriving back. How does that affect my travelling and where is the proof of leaving and at entry in UK. Shouldn't my British passport be stamped also when exiting Pakistan.
Why does it matter? British passports (and EU/EEA passports) do not get stamped into or out of the UK unless requested, and they haven't done for years.

UK immigration will not care if your UK passport has been stamped by any other country or not. You're making a huge deal out of something which is completely irrelevant.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by noajthan » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:35 am

mjm9691 wrote:Let's put it this way then what is the proof when I left UK? and on arrival where did I come from when my British passport is s
canned
Rest assurred this will be on record even if a borderguard does not even physically see or stamp passport.

It should be clear to concerned persons where you have actually been to and come back from.
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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by crimson76 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:58 pm

noajthan wrote:
mjm9691 wrote:Let's put it this way then what is the proof when I left UK? and on arrival where did I come from when my British passport is s
canned
Rest assurred this will be on record even if a borderguard does not even physically see or stamp passport.

It should be clear to concerned persons where you have actually been to and come back from.
Even James Bond with all his passports will leave a trail these days.
You will not face any problems with Uk border authorities. However, sometimes at Pakistani airports at the time of exit when you present your passport to FIA officials might find it suspicious if there is no visa for Pakistan or entry stamp on your passport, they could start asking questions and give you undue hassle. I have known people who missed their flight because of FIA investigations. May be it is perfectly legal to travel to Pakistan on Pakistani passport and exit on British passport. However, Pakistani FIA staff is known for creating problems for exiting passengers, if you can pull strings and/or grease palms you will be fine. Do your research and then set your sails to yonder shores.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by ohara » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:53 pm

crimson76 wrote:May be it is perfectly legal to travel to Pakistan on Pakistani passport and exit on British passport.
Why is it a problem to exit Pakistan using a Pakistani passport :?:

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by crimson76 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:37 pm

ohara wrote:
crimson76 wrote:May be it is perfectly legal to travel to Pakistan on Pakistani passport and exit on British passport.
Why is it a problem to exit Pakistan using a Pakistani passport :?:
Because he does not have British visa on his Pakistani passport. Immigration staff at Pakistani airport will not let him board UK bound flight without visa. If he intends to use British passport , he must get either NICOP OR Pakistani visa on British passport.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by crimson76 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:38 pm

ohara wrote:
crimson76 wrote:May be it is perfectly legal to travel to Pakistan on Pakistani passport and exit on British passport.
Why is it a problem to exit Pakistan using a Pakistani passport :?:
Because he does not have British visa on his Pakistani passport. Immigration staff at Pakistani airport will not let him board UK bound flight without visa. If he intends to use British passport , he must get either NICOP OR Pakistani visa on British passport.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by sshah20 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:03 pm

You can visit Pakistan with Pakistani and British passport. You don't need NICOP or Pakistan visa for your visit. My wife visit pak last month with both Pakistani and British passport.
At the time of exit Pakistani immigration offiical check both passports and thats it.

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Re: Travelling to Pakistan from UK first time after BC

Post by mjm9691 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:00 am

Thanks sshah 20 for sharing the actual experience, which line did she go in when she entered pakistan and did she show both passports at airline check in when leaving UK

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