British Naturalisation (Application queries)

Shah1698 · Post by **Shah1698** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:21 am

You cannot book the appointment until you get an invitation to use IDV app (if eligible). Once you receive the invitation to use the app (which will take 2-5 working days), you can use it or book an appointment with UKCAS if you want to give biometric in person.

Post by **Ticktack** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:37 am

manolesta wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:39 am
Guys, my wife has just paid and submitted her AN FORM!

As soon as she paid, she has received the following email:

Payment successful
Date: ** ** **
Name: Mrs **** ***** *****
Visa: Apply for naturalisation as a British Citizen
Fee paid: 1330.00 GBP
Reference: ***********

This email confirms the amount paid and the application's reference number. We cannot provide an invoice, but this email provides confirmation that we have received your payment and the application has been submitted.

What you need to do next
If you have not already done so, you must return to your application to book and attend an appointment with our commercial partner to provide your documents and enrol your biometrics (fingerprints and facial photograph).

If you want to, you can also download a copy of your application form and document checklist.

Your application may not be successful if you do not complete the mandatory actions.

This email is telling her to return to application and book an appointment;

I thought she had to wait for an email telling her if she can use the IDV app or book an appointment with the UKVCAS, so I am a bit confused now.

Q: Can she book an appointment with UKVCAS straight away or we need to wait for a further email (instructing us what to do)?

Sorry guys without you I am lost!

You've been told what to do. You can't pre-empt the system. There's no guarantee that you'll the IDV app option.

Don't be confused, just follow the instructions.

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:26 pm

Hi folks!

In the Parent's details I have accidentally provided my "mother's married name".

Her current name is not that anymore, because since she got divorced, she got back her "Maiden name":

Q: Can I rectify this issue (by providing her current name) in the Cover letter?

Could this affect the outcome of my application?!

Thanks again for your help!

Post by **alterhase58** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:42 am

manolesta wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:26 pm
Could this affect the outcome of my application?!

No - parents' details are requested in case you are already British through them - applicants may not know that ...

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:55 am

Thanks for the prompt response!

Should I write the correct name in the cover letter?

Post by **CR001** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:07 am

Your parents details are irrelevant to citizenship by naturalisation!!

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:51 pm

Hi guys,

- my wife has submitted her AN FORM on 18/08/2022.

-she is providing a letter from employer as "proof of living in the UK for 5 years (EEA citizen) dated 11/08/2022.

-her biometrics will be on 28/09/2022 (paid for scan and checking)

The employer letter will be "49 days old" on the day of UKVCAS appointment.

I have always known that a letter of employer shouldn't be older than a month:

1) Since the application submission date OR since the biometrics appointment?

2) Should she ask for another letter close to the UKVCAS appointment date or the one she has is OK to submit?

Hope someone is able to help me with this issue, thanks in advance!

Post by **contorted_svy** » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:55 am

Hi,
The date they will look at is the submission date, not the UKVCAS date, not just for employer letter, but also for presence in the UK at the beginning of the qualifying period, etc. If the letter was issued in the month before the application that will be ok.

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:44 am

Great!

This way the letter will only be one week older than the submission day!

Cheers!

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:47 pm

Ok guys, I have received the email telling me that I am not elegible for the IDV app.

My documents checklist is asking me for:

1- EEA passport 2- English certificate 3- referees declaration 4- proof of living in UK for 5 years.

In addition to those I would like to add:
My other nationality passport and my SAR (from hmrc).

There are only 2 kind of appointments available on the Soprasteria website: £0 OR £132

Questions

1 - What's the difference between the two (except that one is free and the other paid)?

I would like to have my documents scanned and checked by them (including the passport not included in the document checklist).

2 - Do I have to pay for scanning and checking service even if I book the £132 appointment?

3 - If I pay for scanning and checking service, will they scan only the documents listed in the "document checklist" ?

4 - Should I scan and upload the additional passport before the appointment (even if I pay for scanning and checking service)?

Thanks in advance guys!

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:58 am

Just booked a free appointment and paid for scanning service (no checking).

NEXT STEPS:

1) I will upload on the UKVCAS website the only digital document in my possess (letter of employer covering the 5 years)

2) I will take to the biometrics appointment all the rest of the documents listed in the Document Checklist:

(EEA Passport, English test certificate, Referees declarations and Consent form).

QUESTIONS:

What about the "Additional documents"(other nationality passport, Sar) I would like to provide in support of the application?

Are they going to scan them at the appointment (or for peace of mind, it's better I will scan them myself)?

Should I pay for "document checking" service too, or scanning is enough in my case (for example if I have to scan/upload the additional passport myself..)?

Post by **contorted_svy** » Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:27 am

Hi,

If you bring the paperwork you want to include in your application to the appointment and tell them you want to upload them that should be fine. In support of the letter of employment, can you also provide P60s/payslips?
I think you can scan and upload your paperwork by yourself, but that defeats the objective of having paid for the service.

If you pay for the document checking service, they will confirm that what you have uploaded/they are scanning appears correctly.

Remember whichever service(s) you decide to buy, they won't give you an opinion on whether the documents are appropriate or under which section they will go, you have to know that and give them instructions yourself.

Post by **alterhase58** » Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:42 am

contorted_svy wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:27 am
In support of the letter of employment, can you also provide P60s/payslips?

An employer letter covering the residency period will be sufficient (from personal experience).
And yes, UKVCAS will not validate the documents, UKVI caseworker will.

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:35 am

Morning guys!

My wife biometrics appointment in in 3 weeks:

Her Document checklist is:

1 Her EEA passport
2 Certificate of English
3 Proof of living 5 years in the UK
4 Referee's declaration

Regarding the "Family consent form":

She is not providing any information or documents in joint names with me (we only have council tax in joint names but no need to provide it at the moment).

She is signing Part 1 of the form (as applicant);

(My wife was a "Family member of an EEA" since 2010 until 2015, she then started to exercise her own treaty rights when she became an EEA citizen).

Q: Should I (the husband) sign anyway part 2 of the family consent form (just in case the caseworker will need some information/evidence in my name later on during the decision process) OR I don't need to sign it?

(I don't have problems signing part 2 just for peace of mind..)

Thanks folks, getting there..

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:12 am

Sorry guys, anyone can help me on this one?

I need to upload the consent form but still don't know if part 2 needs to be signed by my husband..

Many thanks

Post by **contorted_svy** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:38 pm

If you're not providing documents in both of your names or marriage certificate or nothing with your husband's name, it's not needed.

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:44 am

No, I am not providing documents in joint names at the moment (but I had to provide my husband's name in the AN online form).

What happen if my husband doesn't sign Part 2 of the consent form, and then a caseworker will need information/evidence regarding my husband?

Is it bad just to sign part 2 anyway just to avoid problems?

Post by **alterhase58** » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:30 am

manolesta wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:44 am
Is it bad just to sign part 2 anyway just to avoid problems?

No - if they don't need the consent they won't use it (it's data consent, not a requirement under the nationality act).

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:52 am

Morning guys! Need your invaluable help again!

My wife is a dual Italian/Venezuelan citizen. She has applied 2 months ago for British Naturalisation with her valid Italian passport (we're waiting for the HO decision).

Yesterday she got her new Venezuelan passport (aleluja, after 12 months)!

As soon as we opened it, we've realized the "place of birth" is different from all her previous passports:
instead of having the city where she was born, she now has the state where it belongs.

All her previous passports:
Place of birth: Caracas VEN (VEN stands for Venezuela)

Her new passport:
Place of birth: Districto Capital VEN

If she will become British, next step will be applying for British passport (she will have to send her current and uncancelled passports).

Q: Can she have her British passport refused because of this discrepancy?

(It is not her fault if the Venezuelan authority has decided not to write the city anymore in the passports..).

Please we're panicking, can someone help us!

Post by **AmazonianX** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:31 am

manolesta wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:52 am
Morning guys! Need your invaluable help again!

My wife is a dual Italian/Venezuelan citizen. She has applied 2 months ago for British Naturalisation with her valid Italian passport (we're waiting for the HO decision).

Yesterday she got her new Venezuelan passport (aleluja, after 12 months)!

As soon as we opened it, we've realized the "place of birth" is different from all her previous passports:
instead of having the city where she was born, she now has the state where it belongs.

All her previous passports:
Place of birth: Caracas VEN (VEN stands for Venezuela)

Her new passport:
Place of birth: Districto Capital VEN

If she will become British, next step will be applying for British passport (she will have to send her current and uncancelled passports).

Q: Can she have her British passport refused because of this discrepancy?

(It is not her fault if the Venezuelan authority has decided not to write the city anymore in the passports..).

Please we're panicking, can someone help us!

That is where explanation through cover note will assist. Such a change of government policy should not result in refusal. I have seen passport that only states the country of birth...not province, not state or city, just the name of the country.

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:39 pm

The problem is that all my passports say
Place of birth: Caracas Ven, but my new passport says Distrito Capital Ven.
My name is the same in all passports;

Is there a chance that HMPO is going to refuse my application?!
What would you do if you were in my shoes?

Post by **AmazonianX** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:04 am

manolesta wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:39 pm
The problem is that all my passports say
Place of birth: Caracas Ven, but my new passport says Distrito Capital Ven.
My name is the same in all passports;

Is there a chance that HMPO is going to refuse my application?!
What would you do if you were in my shoes?

You are worrying on what's not. As answered previously, it's a policy change from the Venezuelan government, not what you made up in your garage!

manolesta · Post by **manolesta** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:18 am

Thanks for your prompt reply!

But how to explain that to the HMPO?
The Venezuelan consulate doesn't release any document stating this change of policy, so the HMPO will see that just as a different Place of birth...

Should I send them a cover letter when I will apply for passport?

Or no need at all?

Post by **AmazonianX** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:16 am

manolesta wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:18 am
Thanks for your prompt reply!

But how to explain that to the HMPO?
The Venezuelan consulate doesn't release any document stating this change of policy, so the HMPO will see that just as a different Place of birth...

Should I send them a cover letter when I will apply for passport?

Or no need at all? Decision on that is yours to make if it makes you be at rest and mind settled.

Worrying makes a mountain out of a molehill.
Just state the fact as it is on why place of birth is sightly different from what's on previous passports. If there is any further matter HMPO knows to clarify from Venezuelan government and knows what channel.

rakej · Post by **rakej** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:39 pm

Dear Senior Members,

I need your help.

I got my British citizenship in Feb-2021 on the basis of 10 years.
My wife got her ILR in Oct-2022 on the basis of 10 years.
we married in April-2012 & from Aug-2012 living together in UK.

Can I apply for her British Naturalization now? on the basis of the spouse of a British citizen.
Let me know if you need more information.

Thanks for your support.

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