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Detailed Public Funds guidance

Questions and discussions about claiming benefits while living and working in the UK

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Post by John » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:27 pm

can I claim child tax credit , working tax credit and child benefit?
You can claim CB, and you and your wife jointly can claim the Tax Credits.
If I do will it effect my wife's application?
No.
As I can see in the imm rules , can the parties maintain and accommodate themselves which which is referring to both of us.
The bit you have missed out is ..... without having recourse to Public Funds. But never ever equate benefits and Public Funds. Public Funds are strictly defined, and in your personal circumstances you will not be claiming any Public Funds.
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Post by dipmm2000d » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:24 am

Thanks John for your reply, could you pls indicate me how these benefits do not fall in the definition of public funds? I saw a list of things that are public funds including those i mentioned in the guidance. Many thanks.

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Post by dipmm2000d » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:24 am

Thanks John for your reply, could you pls indicate me how these benefits do not fall in the definition of public funds? I saw a list of things that are public funds including those i mentioned in the guidance. Many thanks.

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Post by John » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:20 am

You seem to be reading para 6 of the Immigration Rules, but not taking into account paras 6A and 6B, which effectively "tailor" the Public Funds definition depending upon personal circumstances.
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NEW BENEFITS CLAIMS

Post by sweetykaur » Mon May 06, 2013 7:02 pm

Hi John
I have recently obtained ILR on the basis of long residence. One of my son born here is a British citizen. My husband and daughter is going to apply for ILR on the basis of long residence in July & August 2013 this year.

Q1. What benefits I am eligible to apply now?
Q2. Can I claim housing benefits from council?

Pls guide
John wrote:You seem to be reading para 6 of the Immigration Rules, but not taking into account paras 6A and 6B, which effectively "tailor" the Public Funds definition depending upon personal circumstances.

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Post by John » Mon May 06, 2013 7:16 pm

The answer to those questions has been given many times before in this section of the board.

So the answers are "yes" and "yes" to your questions, in accordance with the greater detail given before.
John

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Public Funds

Post by JShah » Tue May 07, 2013 9:48 am

Hi,
Please can anyone guide me if the Tier1(G) can claim
council tax reduction(council tax discount), which is 25% for single
person living in a property. In the guidance notes(UKBA guidance notes)
at one place it says that council tax reduction comes under public funds but at other place it says that CTR does not breach the immigration rules.
So if anyone have information please respond.
Your response will highly be appreciated.

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J

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Re: Public Funds

Post by Amber » Tue May 07, 2013 10:04 am

JShah wrote:Hi,
Please can anyone guide me if the Tier1(G) can claim
council tax reduction(council tax discount), which is 25% for single
person living in a property. In the guidance notes(UKBA guidance notes)
at one place it says that council tax reduction comes under public funds but at other place it says that CTR does not breach the immigration rules.
So if anyone have information please respond.
Your response will highly be appreciated.

Regards
J
A council tax discount does not breach the no recourse to public funds restriction. The new council tax reduction scheme replaces council tax benefit that is why it is now a public fund. However, a discount does not fall under the new council tax reduction scheme. You would not tick that you have council tax reduction as it has a new meaning, you have a discount.
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amount of working tax credit for full time couple

Post by djchoclate » Mon May 20, 2013 9:06 am

Hi, i am eea2 holder and my partner is eu national and we both work full time together (at least 60hours a week) and our annual income is about 16000 together. and we have a one child as well. Can we apply for working tax credit??? if yes, how much will we get??? Will we be able to get the basic amount which is £1920.

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Re: amount of working tax credit for full time couple

Post by Amber » Mon May 20, 2013 9:31 am

djchoclate wrote:Hi, i am eea2 holder and my partner is eu national and we both work full time together (at least 60hours a week) and our annual income is about 16000 together. and we have a one child as well. Can we apply for working tax credit??? if yes, how much will we get??? Will we be able to get the basic amount which is £1920.
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SET(F) public funds

Post by angela05 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:05 am

hello John,

Before posting my question, I have read all the stories under the Public funds and have got a little knowledge about this. I very much appreciate it.
However I am still confusing while I am making SET(F) for my son in the section of public funds. Would you please clarify this for me?

My background: I have recently obtained my ILR based on long residence and registered my uk born child as a British citizen. I had a student visa before ILR and my sponsor was (and is) my husband (not British) who are working and living in abroad (he doesn't have any uk-related visa).

Last week I claimed Child benefit for uk born children only and I am waiting for the result. In the mean time, I am preparing my other child's (born abroad) ILR using SET (F).

In the SET(F) under the sponsor and his home and finances section,
("Is your sponsor receiving any public funds? Yes or NO question")
I am confusing whether I have to tick Yes or No.

I have read the Public funds link and Paragraph (6a) and (6b), but I am not quite sure about my situation.
In fact, my child's sponsor in the form will be me (because I have the ILR) but my sponsor is my husband (who doesn't have the ILR living in abroad).

If I receive the CB for uk born children (not the applicant of SET(F)) before applying the SET(F), do I have to tick the Yes box or NO box ?

Honestly, I don't understand the paragraph 6a and whether my situation falls under the 6a.

Would you please help me for this matter? Thank you very much.

Angela

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Re: SET(F) public funds

Post by Amber » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:12 am

angela05 wrote:hello John,

Before posting my question, I have read all the stories under the Public funds and have got a little knowledge about this. I very much appreciate it.
However I am still confusing while I am making SET(F) for my son in the section of public funds. Would you please clarify this for me?

My background: I have recently obtained my ILR based on long residence and registered my uk born child as a British citizen. I had a student visa before ILR and my sponsor was (and is) my husband (not British) who are working and living in abroad (he doesn't have any uk-related visa).

Last week I claimed Child benefit for uk born children only and I am waiting for the result. In the mean time, I am preparing my other child's (born abroad) ILR using SET (F).

In the SET(F) under the sponsor and his home and finances section,
("Is your sponsor receiving any public funds? Yes or NO question")
I am confusing whether I have to tick Yes or No.

I have read the Public funds link and Paragraph (6a) and (6b), but I am not quite sure about my situation.
In fact, my child's sponsor in the form will be me (because I have the ILR) but my sponsor is my husband (who doesn't have the ILR living in abroad).

If I receive the CB for uk born children (not the applicant of SET(F)) before applying the SET(F), do I have to tick the Yes box or NO box ?

Honestly, I don't understand the paragraph 6a and whether my situation falls under the 6a.

Would you please help me for this matter? Thank you very much.

Angela
You are settled and entitled to claim public funds. Until you are actually receiving child benefit the answer would be no.
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SET(F) public funds

Post by angela05 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:25 am

Hello D4109125

Thank you very much for your fast reply!!!

If I actually receive the child benefit before submitting the application,
would the answer be Yes?

Sorry for the duplicate question but I just want to make sure.
Angela

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Re: SET(F) public funds

Post by Amber » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:34 am

angela05 wrote:Hello D4109125

Thank you very much for your fast reply!!!

If I actually receive the child benefit before submitting the application,
would the answer be Yes?

Sorry for the duplicate question but I just want to make sure.
Angela
If you are receiving Child Benefit then you should indicate that.
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Re: SET(F) public funds

Post by angela05 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:20 am

D4109125 wrote:
angela05 wrote:Hello D4109125

Thank you very much for your fast reply!!!

If I actually receive the child benefit before submitting the application,
would the answer be Yes?

Sorry for the duplicate question but I just want to make sure.
Angela
If you are receiving Child Benefit then you should indicate that.
Thank you so much for your help!!

Angela

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Post by JShah » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:12 am

Hi John,
I am sure you would have already given information about council tax issues but I am very confused and concerned about the council tax discount/reduction.
I used to get Single person occupancy discount(25%), now My ILR is due in Oct 2013, I have gone through SET(0) form which says about public funds, which also says about Council tax reduction. My question is: is council tax discount(25%) and council tax reduction are same benefit, is it going to effect my visa and what should I do if it has any effect on my visa.
I am on Tier1 G
Your guidance will really help me.

Regards
J

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Post by Amber » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:21 am

JShah wrote:Hi John,
I am sure you would have already given information about council tax issues but I am very confused and concerned about the council tax discount/reduction.
I used to get Single person occupancy discount(25%), now My ILR is due in Oct 2013, I have gone through SET(0) form which says about public funds, which also says about Council tax reduction. My question is: is council tax discount(25%) and council tax reduction are same benefit, is it going to effect my visa and what should I do if it has any effect on my visa.
I am on Tier1 G
Your guidance will really help me.

Regards
J
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Re: Detailed Public Funds guidance

Post by francis259 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:16 pm

Hello
i have been reading the post here, i have got some questions my partner (UK citizen) is claiming benefits i am subject to immigration control and cannot claim. i have been working full time (may 2013) but she has not informed the benefit organisation about my income until (feb 2014), i would like to know whats going to happen and if this would disqualify me from ILR.
she claims:income support, housing benefit, tax benefit, child tax credit (my name is on it but she is the claimer), carers allowance, child benefit (my name is on it but she is the claimer), disability & council tax benefit.
as at today when she informed the benefit organisation some of her benefits where put on hold and some where still granted.
please can you help me with some information
thank you

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Re: Detailed Public Funds guidance

Post by wapoyeee » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:36 am

Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'd like to be 100% certain especially if the rules have changed recently.

I'm a UK Citizen and my foreign born wife and step daughter are here on a 2 year Spouse visa. Can I claim Child Benefit for my step daughter in my name ? Will this break the 'no recourse to public funds" rule when they come to applying for ILR using form SET(M) ?

Thank you

wapoyeee

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Re: Detailed Public Funds guidance

Post by aloksuri81 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:13 pm

Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'd like to be 100% certain especially if the rules have changed recently.my father is 64 years and he will turn to 65 in feb 2015 he is in uk with a visa spouse/cp -spouse/cp of a suri as my mum is British citizen .mentioned as No recourse to public funds . Now I want to know that what all benefits he is entitled for and what benefits he should not claim for so that it should not effect his ILR. can he apply for freedom pass and council tax benifits.? plzz reply soon

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