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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:19 pm

Daniann wrote:Hi guys ,
Our PR time line as below ( EEA citizen)
...

Now it's been 5 months and I didn't hear anything from the HO , and as what I can see from the timeline here that a lot of people (EEA) they received already their PR and they applied after me ..!
Can any one advice or give me an opinion please .

Thanks
HO process is like a black box - who knows what really goes on in there.

You can't form any conclusion from someone else's timings.
May as well try poking around in chicken entrails.

HO won't entertain any queries until 6 months mark.
Just a case of sitting tight and waiting.
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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by JGNS25 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:22 pm

Hi Danian,

Was your case complex? single job or multiple jobs? travelling a lot? did you provide all the documentation required in the HO guidance for PR application ?

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by Daniann » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:35 pm

JGNS25 wrote:Hi Danian,

Was your case complex? single job or multiple jobs? travelling a lot? did you provide all the documentation required in the HO guidance for PR application ?
No not complex at all , I worked 4 years for 1 employer and then self employed ( I have all original support documents)
My husband changed few employee but he have all the P60 and all the pay slips no missing even one month .
Both traveled out side uk but we never been abroad more than one month per year .

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by Daniann » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:37 pm

noajthan wrote:
Daniann wrote:Hi guys ,
Our PR time line as below ( EEA citizen)
...

Now it's been 5 months and I didn't hear anything from the HO , and as what I can see from the timeline here that a lot of people (EEA) they received already their PR and they applied after me ..!
Can any one advice or give me an opinion please .

Thanks
HO process is like a black box - who knows what really goes on in there.

You can't form any conclusion from someone else's timings.
May as well try poking around in chicken entrails.

HO won't entertain any queries until 6 months mark.
Just a case of sitting tight and waiting.
Thanks , but do your think they will join my application to my husband application? Maybe the delay due to this ?what do you think ?

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by Katlancs » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:48 pm

Daniann wrote:Hi guys ,
Our PR time line as below ( EEA citizen)
24 /06 PR application sent
1/07 money been taken
1/08 confirmation email

And still waiting until now ( 5 months )

My husband( not EEA ,Family member )
3/10 application sent
5/10 money been taken
18/10 done the biometric
22/10 COA with right to work

am working since October 2010 with out stopping and we send all the needed documents ( our solicitor said I have perfect documents and my PR application is straightforward) and the same for my husband

Our solicitor send with my application cover letter itemising all my documents .
For my husband cover letter the solicitor put my case ID and reference number as my husband need to depends on some documents which been sent with my application ( like my passport ,my original P60... Etc )

Now it's been 5 months and I didn't hear anything from the HO , and as what I can see from the timeline here that a lot of people (EEA) they received already their PR and they applied after me ..!
Can any one advice or give me an opinion please .

Thanks
I applied a few days before. Still haven't heard back but I guess all we can do is wait.

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2 month gap in employment during the 5 year period

Post by karamba123 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:51 pm

Hi,
Unsure how to fill the EEA (PR) form.
I have one 2 month gap in employment during my qualifying 5 year period (June 2006 - June 2011); WRS / Registration Certificate / employment evidence present. I didn't register as a job seeker, went to Poland to see relatives. Got employed again after return. On the other hand I was then living with my EEA durable partner, who was exercising Treaty Rights and has recently (November 2016) been issued with Permanent Residence Certificate. He has been working with no gaps since our arrival in 2006. Could he "fill" the gap as a sponsor then? I also had a long employment gap from end of June 2011 till August 2014 due to bringing up our children. I have been employed since then.
I'm looking for advice on what the best way is of applying for PRC in my case? Had that 2 month gap ruined my qualifying period?
Should I apply as a EEA family member instead? If yes, what evidence to supply for employment? Both mine and my partner's? Or just his? And what best period would be to use as the qualifying one?
Also in the EEA (PR) form Section 2 Sponsor it says: "Complete this section with details of your sponsor if, during the relevant qualifying period, you have mainly had a right of residence as a family member or extended family member (...)". For the first 5 years that would only be 2 months, so not "mainly" really... Plus if I was abroad could he have been the sponsor then?
Thank you for reading this and any advice very much appreciated!

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by JGNS25 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 pm

I am still waiting for my permanent residence card, I am married to a British national as well but still is taking long. Any idea how long it could take?

I come from EU country. I have been living in the UK for 6 years.

I filled up the application, sent all the documents for the last 5 years . I made sure that all the details from the goverment guidance where enclose. some of them where missing like letters confirming employment.however I have added for each one of my previous emploiments alternative evidence(p45, contract of employment and p1).As well, I have added a cover letter explaining why some of the letters confirming employment where missing.

Application was delivered on 10/08/16 ( I sent it by special delivery day earlier)
Payment taken on 12/08/16 under reference EURO LIVERPOOL GBR
Email from HO 08/09/2016
Permanent Residence Card :Waiting

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by LilyLalilu » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:01 pm

I have one 2 month gap in employment during my qualifying 5 year period (June 2006 - June 2011); WRS / Registration Certificate / employment evidence present. I didn't register as a job seeker, went to Poland to see relatives.
This is fine. Make a note that you were abroad during this time and therefore 'not required to exercise treaty rights as you were free from immigration time restrictions'. And as the absence was under the permitted 180 days per year, you were still considered a resident and therefore a qualified person for the purpose of PR.
I was in exactly the same situation (2 month absence for travels after quitting my job), sent a short explanation and my PR was granted without issues.

Good thing you were abroad, if you were just in the UK without exercising treaty rights this may have caused you problems.
All information given is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by salmintin » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:21 pm

aluter wrote:
aluter wrote:UPDATE:
Non - EU Application sent: 10 Oct 2016
HO received: 11 October 2016
Payment taken out.
Biometric requested: 20th October 2016
Biometric sent: 24th October 2016
Email from HO: ? none
COA: 26th October 2016
PR:?

It does appear it is taking them 5-6 months to process applications. In the time being, I have requested for our travel documents back.
I requested for passport back on the 30th October and still have not received it. I filled another from saying it has taken more than 10 working days on the 15th Nov.

Any tip on what I can do? We are traveling on the 29th Nov.
Can you not contact your embassy to give you some temporary documents?

In my case it took them 3 months to return my ID. Luckily I didn't need it urgently but bear in mind that they can be veeeery slow sometimes. And there's nothing you can do. I think I tried ALL options, including official complaint, involving my MP - nothing made them move faster.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by karamba123 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:56 pm

This is fine. Make a note that you were abroad during this time and therefore 'not required to exercise treaty rights as you were free from immigration time restrictions'. And as the absence was under the permitted 180 days per year, you were still considered a resident and therefore a qualified person for the purpose of PR.
I was in exactly the same situation (2 month absence for travels after quitting my job), sent a short explanation and my PR was granted without issues.

Good thing you were abroad, if you were just in the UK without exercising treaty rights this may have caused you problems.
Thank you LilyLalilu

Just to clarify, are you sure it is 180 days absence permitted for exercising treaty right, not 90 days per year? Isn't it 180 for tax purposes?

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by LilyLalilu » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:05 pm

Just to clarify, are you sure it is 180 days absence permitted for exercising treaty right, not 90 days per year? Isn't it 180 for tax purposes?
A 100% sure :) It's 6 months a year for PR (or 1x 12 month absence if you have extenuating circumstances). The 90 days is a requirement for the last year before a potential application for citizenship.
All information given is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by karamba123 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:14 am

LilyLalilu wrote:
Just to clarify, are you sure it is 180 days absence permitted for exercising treaty right, not 90 days per year? Isn't it 180 for tax purposes?
A 100% sure :) It's 6 months a year for PR (or 1x 12 month absence if you have extenuating circumstances). The 90 days is a requirement for the last year before a potential application for citizenship.
Oh, got totally confused then. No idea why I believed it was 90 days... Thank you for the explanation. In fact I would never get bothered with all these certificates, citizenship (just about to apply MN1 forms for the kids sake too), spending some extraordinary amount of money if Brexit hadn't happened.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by aluter » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:22 pm

salmintin wrote:
aluter wrote:
aluter wrote:UPDATE:
Non - EU Application sent: 10 Oct 2016
HO received: 11 October 2016
Payment taken out.
Biometric requested: 20th October 2016
Biometric sent: 24th October 2016
Email from HO: ? none
COA: 26th October 2016
PR:?

It does appear it is taking them 5-6 months to process applications. In the time being, I have requested for our travel documents back.
I requested for passport back on the 30th October and still have not received it. I filled another from saying it has taken more than 10 working days on the 15th Nov.

Any tip on what I can do? We are traveling on the 29th Nov.
Can you not contact your embassy to give you some temporary documents?

In my case it took them 3 months to return my ID. Luckily I didn't need it urgently but bear in mind that they can be veeeery slow sometimes. And there's nothing you can do. I think I tried ALL options, including official complaint, involving my MP - nothing made them move faster.
We are traveling to USA so if I apply for a new passport, I need to apply for another visa!

I think I will fill in the form again online. This is very frustrating.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by salmintin » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:32 pm

aluter wrote:
We are traveling to USA so if I apply for a new passport, I need to apply for another visa!

I think I will fill in the form again online. This is very frustrating.
I didn't suggest getting a new passport, but a temporary travel document. Some countries will issue them in exceptional circumstances, but I don't know about your country. Anyway, make sure to mention the urgency of the situation in the document request form.

You could also try to contact the US embassy and ask them if you could travel with a temporary document as long as you have details of your visa (like visa number etc). But I think it's unlikely they will be happy with that. Worth trying though.

Good luck.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by softy monster » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:44 pm

just a bit of an update!!
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by JGNS25 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:15 pm

Would the European nationals married to British citizens have their permanent residence processed faster? or it is irrelevant?

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by softy monster » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:22 pm

JGNS25 wrote:Would the European nationals married to British citizens have their permanent residence processed faster? or it is irrelevant?
I guess it's irrelevant, as you will be queuing as everybody else!
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:21 pm

All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by 7han0z » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:51 am

Good Day everyone,

I just wanted to share my timeline, since I have been monitoring other's for a few months.

I'm an EU citizen (GRC), arrived in 2006 for studies, which were completed by 2012.
Immediately got employed until present by a single employer. Changed 4 addresses in total.
I had comprehensive sick insurance for the years of study.

The evidence documents submitted to HO were the ones noted on the EEA(PR) guidance notes.

Application sent: 13/08/16
HO received: 15/08/16
Payment withdrawn: 17/08/16
Confirmation Email: 7/09/16
ID requested: Never asked
ID sent: Not applicable
DCPR issued: 11/11/16
DCPR received along with the documentation package: 24/11/16

I really appreciate the forum's support and information sharing throughout.

Good luck for those waiting![/b][/b][/b][/size]

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by salmintin » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:48 am

7han0z wrote:Good Day everyone,

I just wanted to share my timeline, since I have been monitoring other's for a few months.

I'm an EU citizen (GRC), arrived in 2006 for studies, which were completed by 2012.
Immediately got employed until present by a single employer. Changed 4 addresses in total.
I had comprehensive sick insurance for the years of study.

The evidence documents submitted to HO were the ones noted on the EEA(PR) guidance notes.

Application sent: 13/08/16
HO received: 15/08/16
Payment withdrawn: 17/08/16
Confirmation Email: 7/09/16
ID requested: Never asked
ID sent: Not applicable
DCPR issued: 11/11/16
DCPR received along with the documentation package: 24/11/16

I really appreciate the forum's support and information sharing throughout.

Good luck for those waiting![/b][/b][/b][/size]
Hello stranger

Thank YOU for registering and giving back! Your help is much appreciated. It appears to me that some people who applied in August are already receiving decisions, which means it may take 3 months for some of us (rather than the usual 4 months that many people who applied after April have experienced).

Good luck from now on.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by softy monster » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:20 pm

Dear Noajthan,

I am just wondering if you could help me with my query as I wasn't sure if the above post was addressed to me or someone else! Many thanks :-)

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British Citizen: Dec 17

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:31 pm

softy monster wrote:
JGNS25 wrote:Would the European nationals married to British citizens have their permanent residence processed faster? or it is irrelevant?
I guess it's irrelevant, as you will be queuing as everybody else!
In my experience, BCs invariably get the fuzzy end of the lollipop. There is no obvious benefit of being connected to a BC in an EU-related application.
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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:31 pm

@softy monster see your question/topic which has been put here:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... e#p1425063
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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by JGNS25 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:31 pm

hi everybody,

I hope you can Help, I made my application back in Aug Unfortunately when I did my application I send a prepaid envelope to return my document to my current home adress. I will have to move from my home address within a month or so How can I notify HO that i have change my home address. If I want to send another prepaid envelope with my new home adress where should I send it?. would they accept the prepaid envelop if I enclose an explanation letter with my case id?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by salmintin » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:54 pm

JGNS25 wrote:hi everybody,

I hope you can Help, I made my application back in Aug Unfortunately when I did my application I send a prepaid envelope to return my document to my current home adress. I will have to move from my home address within a month or so How can I notify HO that i have change my home address. If I want to send another prepaid envelope with my new home adress where should I send it?. would they accept the prepaid envelop if I enclose an explanation letter with my case id?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
I don't know the answer to your question specifically, but you do know you don't need to send them (a prepaid) envelope, right?

Well unless you have a good reason for doing so. :D

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