Permanent Residence Card - Processing Time 2017

ajitk1 · Post by **ajitk1** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:44 am

ajitk1 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:36 am

Abdihakim wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:50 am
Abdihakim wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:27 pm
Application for non-EE Family member. Also my EEA family member become British citizen now.

Send application 16/05/2017
Received home office 17/05/2017
Money taken 18/05/2017
Biometric enrolled 07/07/2017 latter data 04/07/2017
Certificate of application with right to work 22/07/2017
Waiting decision Last update 04/07/17
Decided update 06/09/17
It's saying I should receive my decision with in next 10 working days.
I hope it will be good news!
All process takes me 3 months and 3 weeks!!
Thank you all .

Bad news for me
I received a refusal later today and the reason is my response is my brother and he's EEA and I'm none EEA nationality the reason they refuse is last 5 years I'm not independent with my sponsor and we don't live together that's the only reason they refusing my application AI don't know what to do now I was working last 5 years and student and me and my sponsor we can't live together as my sponsor is married and got 6 childrens and he's house is 3 bedrooms it's to small for them but I also included my application my sponsor ID and his last 5 years proof work bills everything.
Please is there anyone who can give me best advice what to do now. I really need help the Home office they only give me 14 days to appeal to the decision or make new application. Please give me your best advice.
Your explanation is very confusing. You first say " I'm not independent with my sponsor and we don't live together". How would you be independent and live with your brother?
You will have to check if you are eligible to apply independently. I think HO has decided that you are not eligible as a family member. This is very complex and the best is to ask an immigration specialist. This forum is frequented by people who are struggling for information. Unless you know what category you fall under, it will be difficult for anyybody her to help you.

fanthara · Post by **fanthara** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:56 am

just updating here as I checked online just now and it says DECIDED

. After I got the CoA letter I stopped checking online and reading forums, so the waiting wouldn't feel that long. And just by curiosity today I checked it, not even expecting anything as it was always saying "case id not recognised" and BAM! got a DECIDED status. It would be better if I hadn't checked lolol now the next 7 days will be full of anxiety

but I'm trying to be positive!

Online pplications for 2 eea nationals and 1 non-eea national (married couple and child)

applications sent: 06/05/2017
Payment taken: 06/05/2017
Confirmations of online applications received: 08/05/2017
Supporting documents posted: 09/05/2017
Biometrics letter reiceived: 13/07/2017
Biometrics sent: 14/07/2017
CoA: 26/07/2017 (dated 22/07/2017)
Application status: DECIDED on 11/09/2017
It says I should receive a letter within 10 days.

Fingers crossed!!

arunarchery · Post by **arunarchery** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:23 am

Hello guys soon another big change for who have permanent residence. Check this link and see last paragraph

http://bit.ly/2sJ9u8w

ajitk1 · Post by **ajitk1** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:28 pm

arunarchery wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:23 am
Hello guys soon another big change for who have permanent residence. Check this link and see last paragraph

http://bit.ly/2sJ9u8w

There is nothing new in this so called "big change". Kindly read carefully before making such grandiose announcements Arun.

arunarchery · Post by **arunarchery** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:35 pm

ajitk1 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:28 pm

arunarchery wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:23 am
Hello guys soon another big change for who have permanent residence. Check this link and see last paragraph

http://bit.ly/2sJ9u8w
There is nothing new in this so called "big change". Kindly read carefully before making such grandiose announcements Arun.

Applications for permanent residence status

The settled status application scheme for EU citizens will be separate from the current one for documents confirming EU permanent residence status. Permanent residence status is linked to the UK’s membership of the EU and so will no longer be valid after we leave. If you already have a certificate of permanent residence, you will still need to apply for the new settled status document. We will aim to make sure the process is as streamlined as possible for all applicants.

Osafidence · Post by **Osafidence** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:51 am

Abdihakim wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:50 am
Abdihakim wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:27 pm
Application for non-EE Family member. Also my EEA family member become British citizen now.

Send application 16/05/2017
Received home office 17/05/2017
Money taken 18/05/2017
Biometric enrolled 07/07/2017 latter data 04/07/2017
Certificate of application with right to work 22/07/2017
Waiting decision Last update 04/07/17
Decided update 06/09/17
It's saying I should receive my decision with in next 10 working days.
I hope it will be good news!
All process takes me 3 months and 3 weeks!!
Thank you all .

Bad news for me
I received a refusal later today and the reason is my response is my brother and he's EEA and I'm none EEA nationality the reason they refuse is last 5 years I'm not independent with my sponsor and we don't live together that's the only reason they refusing my application AI don't know what to do now I was working last 5 years and student and me and my sponsor we can't live together as my sponsor is married and got 6 childrens and he's house is 3 bedrooms it's to small for them but I also included my application my sponsor ID and his last 5 years proof work bills everything.
Please is there anyone who can give me best advice what to do now. I really need help the Home office they only give me 14 days to appeal to the decision or make new application. Please give me your best advice.

@Abdihakim sorry about your news.
I am in similar situation as you mentioned... BUT....when you lived apart from your brother did all your letters carry your brothers address though you were not living there? E.g. pay slips HMRC coding notice, mobile phone bills, voters card, etc
Please share to creat awareness. Thank you

ajitk1 · Post by **ajitk1** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:16 am

arunarchery wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:35 pm

ajitk1 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:28 pm

arunarchery wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:23 am
Hello guys soon another big change for who have permanent residence. Check this link and see last paragraph

http://bit.ly/2sJ9u8w
There is nothing new in this so called "big change". Kindly read carefully before making such grandiose announcements Arun.
Applications for permanent residence status

The settled status application scheme for EU citizens will be separate from the current one for documents confirming EU permanent residence status. Permanent residence status is linked to the UK’s membership of the EU and so will no longer be valid after we leave. If you already have a certificate of permanent residence, you will still need to apply for the new settled status document. We will aim to make sure the process is as streamlined as possible for all applicants.

This announcement was made in June 2017. Everybody knows about this.

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:03 am

Hello guys,
I would to ask questions, actually I applied for perment residents card and I receive mail confirmation with my casex ID number so now executive officer mail me and she said refused my application form because insufficient evidence but I asked which evidence do you want to support my application she didn't respond to what i asked by the way I would appeal when I receive all my documents back and I would to know i need to pay £65 again or just free
Please let know any ideas

venomby · Post by **venomby** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:27 am

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:03 am
Hello guys,
I would to ask questions, actually I applied for perment residents card and I receive mail confirmation with my casex ID number so now executive officer mail me and she said refused my application form because insufficient evidence but I asked which evidence do you want to support my application she didn't respond to what i asked by the way I would appeal when I receive all my documents back and I would to know i need to pay £65 again or just free
Please let know any ideas

Your post is unclear. It is a language problem so if you want someone to respond you should be clear and precise. First I have never heard of Case ID being sent by mail. It is always sent by email. Second when you get your refusal letter they will not say two words "insufficient evidence". It will have a whole paragraph explaining what is missing. Evidence of residing 5 years may be missing or gaps in employment history may be missing. How do you expect people to respond when you are not giving details?
If you have read the letter it will inform you that only 1% of appeals are upheld so consider that. It may be easier to reapply. That is your choice of course.
Do you think HO case workers are meant to respond to individual questions? Of coursethey will ignore you. When they send you a letter they explain everything. You should read the guidance booklet and see what documents are to be submitted.

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:50 am

Thanks for replying sorry about writing email like this way it's a mistake by the way I send all my documents the only thing I didn't send was my Bank a statement and I asked them if they want my Bank a statement as proof of been in UK for more then 5 years contusions period with out break, that's mean i never been outility of UK since I enter to Uk and it was the end of 2010, I waiting all this time and the end they refused it's frustrating .

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:09 pm

As you said I need to check guidance it's show me permanent resident card under EEA regulations.
You must normally have live in the UK for a continuous period of 5 years as
An EEA National qualified person as (worker- self employe- students- self sufficient -jobseekers)

It's simple all my documents shows I have been as student, jobseekers and worker
The other thing before I send my application form it's went to citizen adviser and he told me every thing ok with my documents and I am able to apply for perment residents card.

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:20 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:09 pm
As you said I need to check guidance it's show me permanent resident card under EEA regulations.
You must normally have live in the UK for a continuous period of 5 years as
An EEA National qualified person as (worker- self employe- students- self sufficient -jobseekers)

It's simple all my documents shows I have been as student, jobseekers and worker
The other thing before I send my application form it's went to citizen adviser and he told me every thing ok with my documents and I am able to apply for perment residents card.

You should have sent bank statements. Did you have CSI (comprehensive sickness insurance) or a non UK EHIC card for the whole time you were a student?

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:47 pm

I didn't send my Bank statement i thought the document I send it's enough as proof and I told them if they want me to send all my bank statement i can post it by royal mail first class but they just want get my money without any a big reason for refusing but I will take further and appeal for the decision .

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:50 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:47 pm
I didn't send my Bank statement i thought the document I send it's enough as proof and I told them if they want me to send all my bank statement i can post it by royal mail first class but they just want get my money without any a big reason for refusing but I will take further and appeal for the decision .

by CR001 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:20 pm
Did you have CSI (comprehensive sickness insurance) or a non UK EHIC card for the whole time you were a student?

What documents did you send?

ajitk1 · Post by **ajitk1** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:54 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:09 pm
As you said I need to check guidance it's show me permanent resident card under EEA regulations.
You must normally have live in the UK for a continuous period of 5 years as
An EEA National qualified person as (worker- self employe- students- self sufficient -jobseekers)

It's simple all my documents shows I have been as student, jobseekers and worker
The other thing before I send my application form it's went to citizen adviser and he told me every thing ok with my documents and I am able to apply for perment residents card.

You have not clarified the reason for refusal. Insufficient evidence of 5 years stay in UK?
or insufficent evidence of being a qualified person? Or as Casa stated did u provide CSI evidence?
Citizens advisory is not really reliable. They can guide you but they are manned by volunteers who dont really know much about the operations of HO. I too went to Citizens Advisory and the person there was only saying send as much documentation as you can. If you send everything you have you cant go wrong. There are so many people asking them for advice that they dont give you more than a few minutes of their time.

ajitk1 · Post by **ajitk1** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:03 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:47 pm
I didn't send my Bank statement i thought the document I send it's enough as proof and I told them if they want me to send all my bank statement i can post it by royal mail first class but they just want get my money without a reason for refusing but I will take further and appeal for the decision .

Your attitude does show you think you are smarter than HO case workers.
First the case worker is not interested in your money. They are not working on a commission basis.
You dont know the actual reason for your refusal and yet you behave like you have a right to your PR. Doesnt work like that my friend.
If you want help here you should help yourself first. Read carefully the reason you have been refused and if possible type the entire paragraph. Then someone may be able to help. You have concluded with your bad English that it is because you have not provided Bank statements. It may not be the reason. Get someone who speaks fluent English to read it for you. You already think that because you sent a lot of documents proving you were a student, worker, jobseeker you should be given PR. According to HO you may not be a qualified person exercising treaty rights. Find out and then come back here.

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:13 pm

I didn't think I'm smarter then HO but is not fair and you act like you working with the home office so if they are not interesting the money as you said why they didn't make all process free ,let me i telling you something big brain if I got my money back i don't need this PR what about that.

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:17 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:13 pm
I didn't think I'm smarter then HO but is not fair and you act like you working with the home office so if they are not interesting the money as you said why they didn't make all process free ,let me i telling you something big brain if I got my money back i don't need this PR what about that.

You are complaining about £65. The UK visa route PR that non-EU migrants have to pay for costs £2,287. Life isn't fair!

If you expect any advice on the forum, you should post what has been asked for. Just living in the UK is not sufficient to get PR, you must have been a qualified person exercising treaty rights for the whole 5 years.

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:32 pm

That's what I want treat fairly not just fooling you , I am 100% qualified person and I have been living in UK more then 5 years there's no cap between 5 years ,I know is £65 but I work hard for this money and they take it from you because silly reason I'm not taking it and I will do anyything to get what I want .

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:36 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:32 pm
That's what I want treat fairly not just fooling you , I am 100% qualified person and I have been living in UK more then 5 years there's no cap between 5 years ,I know is £65 but I work hard for this money and they take it from you because silly reason I'm not taking it and I will do anyything to get what I want .

So why don't you simply :

1. Post the refusal paragraph for us to read.

2. Answer my question about CSI when you were a student.

3. List the documents that you sent.

You won't get your money back, so no point even trying. If you failed to meet the requirements, then you won't be issued with PR.

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:53 pm

That's wat they said (permanent resident card it must noted that you supplied insufficient evidence to confirm that you have been exercising treaty right for continuous period of 5 years therefore your application is up for refusal.
When I was student I was working as well as part time .
They should before make any decisions asked for further proof not just made decision like that just to close the case I was waiting nearly 5 months and after that you get nothing absolutely disappointed.

Dowlad · Post by **Dowlad** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:34 pm

My timeline

Method: Online & European passport return service
EU NLD National

Application Sent: Saturday 24-June-2017
Payment Online: Saturday 24-June-2017

Application Received: Monday 26-June-2017
Confirmation email by HO with Case ID: Monday 26-June-2017

Online status: 24 June 2017 - Awaiting
Online status changed: 5 September 2017 - Decided

PR Dated: 2014 - I don't mind 2014 but should have been 2013, might need to send additional documents or contact case worker.
PR Received: 15 September 2017

Documents provided: p60*6, Employer letter, cover letter.
After more than a month when I made the application I suspected that documents I supplied might not be sufficient, I sent additional document bank statements, bills and other p60 I found, and new one I had rcvd. Those document were not sent back to me. I think that could be because I made the silly mistake of not paying for the return post of those additional documents.

I have only received the initial supporting documents I supplied such as P60, Employeer and cover letter.

overall took 2 months and 10 days for the decision to be made. not bad.

Thanks to all those who advised me.

Dowlad · Post by **Dowlad** » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:20 pm

Dowlad wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:34 pm
My timeline

Method: Online & European passport return service
EU NLD National

Application Sent: Saturday 24-June-2017
Payment Online: Saturday 24-June-2017

Application Received: Monday 26-June-2017
Confirmation email by HO with Case ID: Monday 26-June-2017

Online status: 24 June 2017 - Awaiting
Online status changed: 5 September 2017 - Decided

PR Dated: 2014 - I don't mind 2014 but should have been 2013, might need to send additional documents or contact case worker.
PR Received: 15 September 2017

Documents provided: p60*6, Employer letter, cover letter.
After more than a month when I made the application I suspected that documents I supplied might not be sufficient, I sent additional document bank statements, bills and other p60 I found, and new one I had rcvd. Those document were not sent back to me. I think that could be because I made the silly mistake of not paying for the return post of those additional documents.

I have only received the initial supporting documents I supplied such as P60, Employeer and cover letter.

overall took 2 months and 10 days for the decision to be made. not bad.

Thanks to all those who advised me.

I have received all my remaining documents today from HO.
Thought those were lost forever. Very pleased.

Jammiedodger · Post by **Jammiedodger** » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:06 pm

Cpt wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:03 am
Hello guys,
I would to ask questions, actually I applied for perment residents card and I receive mail confirmation with my casex ID number so now executive officer mail me and she said refused my application form because insufficient evidence but I asked which evidence do you want to support my application she didn't respond to what i asked by the way I would appeal when I receive all my documents back and I would to know i need to pay £65 again or just free
Please let know any ideas

You might get £25 refund (see p2 of the guidance note). Sorry if I'm wrong.

Cpt · Post by **Cpt** » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:05 pm

Thanks Jammi for you advice but I'm already sort it now.

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