From Ireland to Cyprus with 4EUFam

badr-amiche · Post by **badr-amiche** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:09 pm

hi every body
my story is that i am moroccan national spouse of lithuanian national and i have stamp4 eufam, we invited for family visit (wedding) to cyprus next 28 of may ,when i calld embassy of cyprus in dublin they told me that i need a visa to go there ,but the problem is that i couldnt find direct flight from dublin to there and i alwas have to change flight in england so i will need a uk visa as well ,
i was in travel agency but the lady found for us direct flight only from belfast but unfortunatly i need visa to be there and now i am lost realy because i will need to apply for 2 kind of visa in same time
i checked in the website of british embassy but realy its soooooooo complicated ,,,,,,could some one help me please as soon as possible
iam waiting for you
thx for everybody

badr-amiche · Post by **badr-amiche** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:55 pm

please guys i realy waiting for any answer

fatty patty · Post by **fatty patty** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:38 am

badr-amiche wrote:hi every body
my story is that i am moroccan national spouse of lithuanian national and i have stamp4 eufam, we invited for family visit (wedding) to cyprus next 28 of may ,when i calld embassy of cyprus in dublin they told me that i need a visa to go there ,but the problem is that i couldnt find direct flight from dublin to there and i alwas have to change flight in england so i will need a uk visa as well ,
i was in travel agency but the lady found for us direct flight only from belfast but unfortunatly i need visa to be there and now i am lost realy because i will need to apply for 2 kind of visa in same time
i checked in the website of british embassy but realy its soooooooo complicated ,,,,,,could some one help me please as soon as possible
iam waiting for you
thx for everybody

i have read on this forum that once you are accompanied by your EU spouse and you hold EUFAM4 status, you can go in and out of any EU country. Alot of airline staff don't know about this and make things difficult for travelers. But as far as i am aware, Moroccans do not need a transit visa for the UK.

for e.g. if your flight route is DUBLIN-HEATHROW-CYPRUS, CYPRUS-HEATHROW-DUBLIN, once you arrive in LONDON HEATHROW and show them your EUFAM4 and boarding pass for Dublin flight the immigration at heathrow will grant you a 24 hour transit. The citizens that do require even that TRANSIT visa are Somalis, afghans, sri lankans and few other nationalities, i defo didnt see moroccans.

acme4242 · Post by **acme4242** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:13 am

The airline staff will check their database,
and the computer says you need a UK visit visa.

Here is the airline database, Please print and bring it with you.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservati ... formation/
also available here
http://www.skyteam.com/about/travelhelp/travelinfo.html

National Morocco (MA)
Residence Ireland (Rep. of) (IE)/Transit United Kingdom (GB)
Destination Cyprus (CY)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

United Kingdom (GB)

TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Passengers who may be granted
permission by the Immigration authorities to enter the United
Kingdom, for a stay not exceeding 24 hours.
The following conditions must be complied with:

- passengers hold confirmed reservations for an onward flight within 24 hours; and
- continue to a third country; and
- have no purpose in entering the United Kingdom other than to pass through in transit; and
- hold all documents required for the next destination.

Warning:
- There is no passport control on traffic between "Great
Britain & Northern Ireland" and "Ireland (Rep. of)".
For details, click here
- Non-compliance with entry/transit requirements (incl. forged
documents) For details, click here

Cyprus (CY)

Passport required.
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
for 3 months beyond the period of intended stay.

Visa required, except for Holders of a valid Schengen Type C
visa , provided passenger has first entered the Schengen Area
TIRGL/SCHN. If holding a single-entry visa,
For details, click here .
Visa required, except for A max. stay of 90 days, for spouses
and dependents of EEA TIRGL/EEA and Swiss nationals
residing in Ireland (Rep. of) and holding a family member
residence permit issued by Ireland (Rep. of), clearly stating
relationship. If residence permit does not clearly state the
relationship, proof of relationship (such as a marriage
certificate) is required, together with a copy of the passport
of the EEA or Swiss national.

Visa required, except for A max. period of 5 days to those,
irrespective of nationality , transiting through Cyprus and

According to EU laws, as 4EUfam holder travelling with your spouse
you do not need a visa for either Cyprus or UK
But
UK openly break these laws, and the Cypriot Embassy seem to not
know their own Cyprian rules.

UK arrogant Visa information wrote: If you are a visa national an Immigration Officer may exercise discretion and allow you pass through the UK on your way to another country outside the Common Travel Area
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:
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Please note, however, that this concession is at the Immigration Officerâ€™s discretion and there is no guaranteed right of entry.

The bloody arrogance, The UK are already breaking the EU law and EU citizens rights

Post by **ca.funke** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:42 am

Hi badr-amiche,

first of all welcome to the forum!

Next, IÂ´d strongly advise you to change the topic of your thread to something meaningful, such as "From Ireland to Cyprus with 4EUFam", as the current topic-name is not very enticing to make ppl read it.

Now to your travel-problem:

You are allowed to enter the UK, as long as you travel together with your wife. ItÂ´s >>discussed here<<, most notably the homeoffice itself sais:

HomeOffice wrote:Before an Immigration Officer refuses admission to a non-EEA national under
Regulation 11(2) because s/he does not produce an EEA family permit, the IO must
give the non-EEA national reasonable opportunity to provide by other means proof
that he/she is a family member of an EEA national with a right to accompany that
national or join him/her in the UK.

Together with your wife, both passports, the 4EUFam-card and your marriage certificate, you probably wonÂ´t have any problems.

My wife and me managed to travel several times to Cyprus, with 4EUFam. We used Czech Airlines via Prague. However flying from Belfast shouldnÂ´t be a problem: When entering NorthernIreland by land you shouldnÂ´t have any checks while crossing, as such you can easily leave from Belfast. For the way back IÂ´d recommend having all said papers ready. The hardest check might well ocurr in Cyprus when trying to leave for Belfast. On arrival in Belfast you may have some discussions in an interview-room, but IÂ´m pretty sure after analysis of the situation theyÂ´ll let you go with an apology (apology depending on the level of arrogance of the UK-officer in charge

).

About entering Cyprus: We got some strange looks, and in one occasion the officer had some conversation with a superior (which I didnÂ´t understand through a lack of Greek), but we were always let go without any further inquiry.

Good luck and enjoy Cyprus!

BTW - you can also cross into the Northern part of Cyprus, we never had problems @ Ledra crossing in Nicosia.

malikscompany · Post by **malikscompany** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:15 pm

you can transit for upto 24 hours in UK if you have a confirmed onward flight. it says on UK Embassy website. have a look on the website and print the paper and if they stop you show it to them.

Usually when you go from Ireland to UK your visa and passport is just checked here in Ireland and in UK you go out straght away. they hardly stop you if you are suspecious. but you will not be going out, you will just be transit so I dont think you will have any problem. but make sure you print out from their website.

I read somewhere on this website that someone sent a letter to Cyprus Embassy and they said Stamp 4EUFAM does not need vida, he attached the email reply from Cyprus Embassy. email embassy and then you will be sure.

Goodluck

Post by **ca.funke** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:38 am

malikscompany wrote:I read somewhere on this website that someone sent a letter to Cyprus Embassy and they said Stamp 4EUFAM does not need vida, he attached the email reply from Cyprus Embassy. email embassy and then you will be sure.

That might have been me, >>reply for the Cypriot Embassy can be found here<<.

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