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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by adanmasood143 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:42 am

vinny wrote:
Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation wrote:4.1. Permitted income sources
The following sources of income of the applicant (in respect of employment or self- employment, only if they are in the UK with permission to work) or (as appropriate) their partner, parent, parent’s partner or other sponsor can be counted where an application under Appendix FM has to meet the adequate maintenance requirement:
Hi VINNY,
Thanks for the answer but sorry i could not understand it..

Can u please clarify..? Will they consider both of our incomes as by the time we both were in UK and i was working and she was on carers allowance as exempt from the Threshold..

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by vinny » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:50 am

It seems that both sources of income from applicant and partner may be included, provided both are legally in the UK.

Ask your employers to work out the gross annual salary/income. Divide by 52 to get the weekly income.
Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation wrote:5.3. Earnings from employment (all adequate maintenance applications under Appendix FM)
Under paragraph 12A(a) of Appendix FM-SE, where income from current employment in the UK is relied upon, the following must be provided:
a) A letter from the employer confirming the employment, the gross annual salary/income and the annual salary/income after income tax and National Insurance contributions have been paid, how long the employment has been held, and the type of employment (permanent, fixed-term contract or agency).
b) Payslips covering the period of 6 months prior to the date of application or such shorter period as the current employment has been held.
c) Personal bank statements covering the same period as the payslips, showing that the salary/income has been paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly.

Paragraph 18 of Appendix FM-SE, sets out additional provisions relevant to the calculation of employment income under paragraph 12A.
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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by adanmasood143 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:00 am

Hi Vinny,
Thanks for your reply actually i have calculated it and it looks like i was meeting the criteria only if they consider both of our incomes by the time of the application.. Please have a look and suggest please..

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

APPX could be 90% accurate in CASE 2014

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £47.60 (£190.40 P/M) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Child Tax Credits: £167.67 (£670.91 P/M) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £92.31 (£369.24 P/M) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL SPONSOR EARNING P/M: £ 1526.40 / (£381.6 P/W)

My Average Income P/M: £390 (£97.5 P/W) (AVG hours 60 per £6.50 )
Joint Net Income PER Month: £ 1916.40 (PER WEEK would BE £442.24) (A)

RENT+ COUNCIL TAX = £4800 P/Y (£400 P/M)++++++++COUNCIL TAX £200 P/Y =========================(£96.15 P/W) (B)


AS PER FORMULA

£442.24----------£96.15============ £346.09 (Remaining after deducting the B from A)

AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME SUPPORT MAINTENANCE BY THAT TIME ROUGHLY BY STANDARD BRITISH FAMILY
COUPLE Income suppor t Per week : £113.70
Dependent childs (as of 3 Kids) P/W: £66.33 x3 = £198.99
Family Premium P/W: £ 17.45
Total: £330.14
So As of Formula A----------------B>C

So We met the Criteria of the Adequate Maintenance..!

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by adanmasood143 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:06 am

vinny wrote:It seems that both sources of income from applicant and partner may be included, provided both are legally in the UK.

Ask your employers to work out the gross annual salary/income. Divide by 52 to get the weekly income.
Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation wrote:5.3. Earnings from employment (all adequate maintenance applications under Appendix FM)
Under paragraph 12A(a) of Appendix FM-SE, where income from current employment in the UK is relied upon, the following must be provided:
a) A letter from the employer confirming the employment, the gross annual salary/income and the annual salary/income after income tax and National Insurance contributions have been paid, how long the employment has been held, and the type of employment (permanent, fixed-term contract or agency).
b) Payslips covering the period of 6 months prior to the date of application or such shorter period as the current employment has been held.
c) Personal bank statements covering the same period as the payslips, showing that the salary/income has been paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly.

Paragraph 18 of Appendix FM-SE, sets out additional provisions relevant to the calculation of employment income under paragraph 12A.

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by adanmasood143 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:08 am

Hi Vinny,
Thanks for your reply actually i have calculated it and it looks like i was meeting the criteria only if they consider both of our incomes by the time of the application.. Please have a look and suggest please..

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

APPX could be 90% accurate in CASE 2014

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £47.60 (£190.40 P/M) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Child Tax Credits: £167.67 (£670.91 P/M) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £92.31 (£369.24 P/M) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL SPONSOR EARNING P/M: £ 1526.40 / (£381.6 P/W)

My Average Income P/M: £390 (£97.5 P/W) (AVG hours 60 per £6.50 )
Joint Net Income PER Month: £ 1916.40 (PER WEEK would BE £442.24) (A)

RENT+ COUNCIL TAX = £4800 P/Y (£400 P/M)++++++++COUNCIL TAX £200 P/Y =========================(£96.15 P/W) (B)


AS PER FORMULA

£442.24----------£96.15============ £346.09 (Remaining after deducting the B from A)

AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME SUPPORT MAINTENANCE BY THAT TIME ROUGHLY BY STANDARD BRITISH FAMILY
COUPLE Income suppor t Per week : £113.70
Dependent childs (as of 3 Kids) P/W: £66.33 x3 = £198.99
Family Premium P/W: £ 17.45
Total: £330.14
So As of Formula A----------------B>C

So We met the Criteria of the Adequate Maintenance..!

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by adanmasood143 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:13 pm

Hi Vinny and others members,
Thanks for your reply actually i have calculated it and it looks like i was meeting the criteria only if they consider both of our incomes by the time of the application.. Please have a look and suggest please..

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

APPX could be 90% accurate in CASE 2014

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £47.60 (£190.40 P/M) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Child Tax Credits: £167.67 (£670.91 P/M) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £92.31 (£369.24 P/M) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL SPONSOR EARNING P/M: £ 1526.40 / (£381.6 P/W)

My Average Income P/M: £390 (£97.5 P/W) (AVG hours 60 per £6.50 )
Joint Net Income PER Month: £ 1916.40 (PER WEEK would BE £442.24) (A)

RENT+ COUNCIL TAX = £4800 P/Y (£400 P/M)++++++++COUNCIL TAX £200 P/Y =========================(£96.15 P/W) (B)


AS PER FORMULA

£442.24----------£96.15============ £346.09 (Remaining after deducting the B from A)

AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME SUPPORT MAINTENANCE BY THAT TIME ROUGHLY BY STANDARD BRITISH FAMILY
COUPLE Income suppor t Per week : £113.70
Dependent childs (as of 3 Kids) P/W: £66.33 x3 = £198.99
Family Premium P/W: £ 17.45
Total: £330.14
So As of Formula A----------------B>C

So nby this calculation.. But needs the answer for the upper questions...

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by vinny » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:15 am

adanmasood143 wrote:The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest
vinny wrote:It seems that both sources of income from applicant and partner may be included, provided both are legally in the UK.

Ask your employers to work out the gross annual salary/income. Divide by 52 to get the weekly income.
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by ConfusedPandaDotCom » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:49 am

flozo64 wrote:Hi

Looking to make a spouse visa application flrm soon. I have one dependent child. I'm a career for my sister and so exempt from the financial requirement.

I get £59.75 a week in carers allowance
£20.30 a week in child benefit
£269.92 a month in child tax credit
£56.80 a week in income support
£75 a week in housing benefit

My rent is £325 a month

I'm struggling to work out if we meet the requirement of £180.03 left over a week. Can you please help.

Thankyou
Hi there can you let me know how they broke this down please as we're currently applying for my wife's visa extension

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by Omar3189 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:06 am

hi there please help me to find out if we will meet the adequate maintenance level or not

we are couple and have son 19 years ( not my son ,, is my wife son before me )

my wife receive 250 pounds weekly and she have DLA certificate

i dont work and my wife dont work but we live on the support

we dont pay rent because my wife receive ESA so we dont pay and the government pay for the rent


so will us be able to meet the adequate maintenance level ????

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Re: Adequate maintenance

Post by shah_101 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:47 pm

Dear all
I would appreciate it if anyone could help me, I the sponsor who has is a UK citizen, I have been working two jobs for nearly a year. I have been awarded PIP, on receipt of statutory sick pay from my first job £88.84 a week and from my second job I receive £589 after tax so estimated total monthly £944. I understand that after rent I would require £113.17 a week left over in order to satisfy "adequate maintenance" requirements. I have a child who is a UK passport holder I understand that each dependent requires £66.33 a week additional. But my child is a UK citizen so does this still apply? I would really appreciate it if anyone could give me clarification on regarding this.
Thank you all!

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by rehankhan870 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:36 pm

Amber wrote:Please note that there are new benefits rates effective from April 2014 which will need to be used in order to calculate adequate maintenance levels.

Following the Upper Tribunal case of Ahmed [benefits; proof of receipt; evidence] Bangladesh [2013] UKUT 84 [IAC] and the Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation (click) (include a copy) at page 4, paragraph 5.2, staff considering an application for entry clearance, leave to remain, further leave to remain or indefinite leave to remain must demonstrate calculations detailing the actual financial position of the applicant/sponsor in all cases that fall for refusal using the following formula:

A – B ≥ C

A minus B is greater than or equal to C.

Where:

A is the projected NET income (after deduction of income tax and national insurance contributions);

B is what needs to be spent on accommodation (rent/mortgage and council tax); and

C is the amount of Income Support an equivalent British family of that size can receive.

For the purpose of income, benefit income can be used as income as per Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation, paragraph 5.2(a). No benefit income is said to be excluded in the Immigration directorate instructions.

Key rates 2014/15 should be:

Income support rate for a:
couple £113.70 per week/£492.70 per calendar month
single person over 25: £72.40 per week/£313.73 per calendar month
each dependent child: £66.33 per week/£287.43 per calendar month
income support family premium: £17.45 per week/£75.62 per calendar month.

e.g. using these calculations a couple with two children would need to show:

£113.70 for couple
£17.45 family premium
£66.33 x 2, for each dependant child

=£263.81 per week left over after deducting rent/mortgage and council tax.

A couple with no children would need to show £113.70 per week remaining after rent/mortgage and council tax is deducted.


See
Benefit Rates 2014
Benefit and pension rates: April 2016
Is this rule apply to permanent settled (ILR/ILE HOLDERS) as well or if not, how much income do we need to show and can we claim working tax credit ?
Thanks in advance
Rehan

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Re: Adequate maintenance:- benefits rates from April 2012

Post by rehankhan870 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:46 pm

Hi amber reply me. And Thanks for the useful information.
Is it same for the settled parents (holding ilr/ilr status) to apply for minor child entry clearance from pakistan.

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Re: Adequate maintenance: Calculating after April 2014

Post by rehankhan870 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:11 pm

Amber wrote:Please note that there are new benefits rates effective from April 2014 which will need to be used in order to calculate adequate maintenance levels.

Following the Upper Tribunal case of Ahmed [benefits; proof of receipt; evidence] Bangladesh [2013] UKUT 84 [IAC] and the Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation (click) (include a copy) at page 4, paragraph 5.2, staff considering an application for entry clearance, leave to remain, further leave to remain or indefinite leave to remain must demonstrate calculations detailing the actual financial position of the applicant/sponsor in all cases that fall for refusal using the following formula:

A – B ≥ C

A minus B is greater than or equal to C.

Where:

A is the projected NET income (after deduction of income tax and national insurance contributions);

B is what needs to be spent on accommodation (rent/mortgage and council tax); and

C is the amount of Income Support an equivalent British family of that size can receive.

For the purpose of income, benefit income can be used as income as per Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation, paragraph 5.2(a). No benefit income is said to be excluded in the Immigration directorate instructions.

Key rates 2014/15 should be:

Income support rate for a:
couple £113.70 per week/£492.70 per calendar month
single person over 25: £72.40 per week/£313.73 per calendar month
each dependent child: £66.33 per week/£287.43 per calendar month
income support family premium: £17.45 per week/£75.62 per calendar month.

e.g. using these calculations a couple with two children would need to show:

£113.70 for couple
£17.45 family premium
£66.33 x 2, for each dependant child

=£263.81 per week left over after deducting rent/mortgage and council tax.

A couple with no children would need to show £113.70 per week remaining after rent/mortgage and council tax is deducted.


See
Benefit Rates 2014
Benefit and pension rates: April 2016
I need help from you to understand me please.
For child ILE as settled parents with 45hrs week + working tax creditcan we apply for our minor son visa.
Thanks

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