Spousal Visa communication

Hi,

I wanted some information as to whether the following would count as sufficient communication for a spousal visa:

I, the Sponsor, have gotten engaged with a girl from a Pakistan. I have just seen her picture and spoken via Video Call. It was an arranged marriage I am planning to go in September/October time for the marriage ceremony and to make it official, if I was to submit the spousal visa application upon arriving back in the UK with proof of marriage, pictures, certificates, tests, financial requirements and whatsapp conversations prior to marriage, would this be okay?

Alternatively would I have to go Pakistan before the wedding to meet in person? Not sure when the ‘clock’ starts for the communication.

Also is there some sort of detailed checklist somewhere to ensure I have everything ready for later this year?

Thanks

uj95 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:10 am

Hi,

I wanted some information as to whether the following would count as sufficient communication for a spousal visa:

I, the Sponsor, have gotten engaged with a girl from a Pakistan. I have just seen her picture and spoken via Video Call. It was an arranged marriage I am planning to go in September/October time for the marriage ceremony and to make it official, if I was to submit the spousal visa application upon arriving back in the UK with proof of marriage, pictures, certificates, tests, financial requirements and whatsapp conversations prior to marriage, would this be okay?

Alternatively would I have to go Pakistan before the wedding to meet in person? Not sure when the ‘clock’ starts for the communication.

Also is there some sort of detailed checklist somewhere to ensure I have everything ready for later this year?

Thanks

Hi

Right from first stage...You need to keep everything ready in document form...from the date of your relationship started.... because while filling application form...you will have to explain how and when your relationship started so there has to be strong evidence in support of every bit of information you mention in your application.

There is no standard checklist to provide evidence of genuine and subsisting relation perhaps it's the most challenging aspect in entire application procedure so give as many documents with application like flight tickets, boarding passes, chat or call logs, pictures ,hotel reservations, gifts exchanges, money receipts and all such documents that prove you were and you are together.

But take care you are not over doing it.

You have to maintain right balance.

All the best.
Thanks.

Hi,

I am planning to get married from Pakistan in October. I have started talking to the girl now so that we start to have a connection prior to marriage as this was an arranged marriage introduced by our parents.

For the visa submission, can I submit this when I return from Pakistan in October straight after getting married and show my communication from April 2019 or do I have to wait a few months after marriage to show communication after marriage?

Thanks

uj95 wrote: ↑

Mon May 06, 2019 5:19 pm

Hi,

I am planning to get married from Pakistan in October. I have started talking to the girl now so that we start to have a connection prior to marriage as this was an arranged marriage introduced by our parents.

For the visa submission, can I submit this when I return from Pakistan in October straight after getting married and show my communication from April 2019 or do I have to wait a few months after marriage to show communication after marriage?

Thanks

After marriage anytime you wish can apply for spouse visa. Try your best to create as much as possible the amount of chat, video calls, email, money transfer receipts, gifts receipts, photographs, passport entry/exits stamps etc.

uj95 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:10 am

Hi,

I wanted some information as to whether the following would count as sufficient communication for a spousal visa:

I, the Sponsor, have gotten engaged with a girl from a Pakistan. I have just seen her picture and spoken via Video Call. It was an arranged marriage I am planning to go in September/October time for the marriage ceremony and to make it official, if I was to submit the spousal visa application upon arriving back in the UK with proof of marriage, pictures, certificates, tests, financial requirements and whatsapp conversations prior to marriage, would this be okay?

Alternatively would I have to go Pakistan before the wedding to meet in person? Not sure when the ‘clock’ starts for the communication.

Also is there some sort of detailed checklist somewhere to ensure I have everything ready for later this year?

Thanks

Hello,

You will need to put on the application that this is an "arranged marriage with consent." Very important.

Your relationship starts from the first time you meet her in person, i.e. at the airport if she's coming to pick you up. That's the date you will need to put on your application as the start date of you relationship. You only need communication evidence from this date onwards.

Everything else, you can provide evidence for 6 months.

Things you will need:

Two fees to pay when doing your application online. Breakdown as follows:
Visa Application Fee: £1,736.29
Currency Fee: £1.25

IHS (NHS): £1,320.37
Currency Fee: £1.25

Total: £3,059.16

Documentation that you need:

Applicant
Photocopy of Mrs Passport
Online Application (two payments totalling £3,060 as above)
Appendix 2 VAF Form (paper copy)
IELTS Certificate
TB Test Certificate

Sponsorership
Photocopy of your passport (attested)
Sponsorship letter from you

Employment
Wage Slips (6 months)
Savings (6 months, not important if your annual wage is over £18,600)
Letter from your employer

Maintenance
Payment receipts to show you send her money to support her financially
Joint Bank Account Statements if you have one (best to open one after you get married)

Communications
Printout of WhatsApp Chat
Airline Tickets when you visited her
Around 20 photographs of wedding and post wedding. Photographs must show both of you together

Accomodation
Copy of Land Registry
Survey Report of where she will be living
Permission letter from the owner of the property (if you don't own it)
Photocopy of property owner's passport (if you don't own it)

Also post with the above a blank self-addressed envelope to yourself, special delivery so Home Office can return the documents to yourself (if you plan to post the documents to Sheffield).

For wedding expenses etc, make sure you send moneys in her name - better still if you can get her open a bank account and send money direct into it.

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

uj95 wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:40 pm

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

Hello,

When you fill in the Appendix 2 VAF4A form, on the second page they ask for the following three dates:

• 1.3 When did you first meet your sponsor in person?

• 1.5 When did your relationship begin?

• 1.7 When did you last see your sponsor?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -08-18.pdf

uj95 wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:40 pm

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

If its an arranged marriage through family then tick arranged marriage on form. You can also say that your relationship start from wedding date and then supply subsisting relationship documents from that date onward. No issue

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 1:25 pm

uj95 wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:40 pm

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

If its an arranged marriage through family then tick arranged marriage on form. You can also say that your relationship start from wedding date and then supply subsisting relationship documents from that date onward. No issue

Hi what if say you got engaged last year some time. You did not meet one another but since that date you have been speaking and only recently got married to one another. Marriage is the first time you saw one another. When should you put the start date for the relationship? Would it be the date that you got engaged and started speaking to one another even though you didn't physically see one another or would it be the date of marrige.

If date of marriage, can you still provide chat evidence etc before marriage date or is there no point? Thanks

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 1:25 pm

uj95 wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:40 pm

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

If its an arranged marriage through family then tick arranged marriage on form. You can also say that your relationship start from wedding date and then supply subsisting relationship documents from that date onward. No issue

Hi what if say you got engaged last year some time. You did not meet one another but since that date you have been speaking and only recently got married to one another. Marriage is the first time you saw one another. When should you put the start date for the relationship? Would it be the date that you got engaged and started speaking to one another even though you didn't physically see one another or would it be the date of marrige.

If date of marriage, can you still provide chat evidence etc before marriage date or is there no point? Thanks

In case of prior engagement to marriage then yes the evidences of subsisting relationship should be from that date. A lot arranged marriages in now a days skip engagement but if someone had chosen it to do then subsisting relationship must start from there.

seagul wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 7:48 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 1:25 pm

uj95 wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:40 pm

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

If its an arranged marriage through family then tick arranged marriage on form. You can also say that your relationship start from wedding date and then supply subsisting relationship documents from that date onward. No issue

Hi what if say you got engaged last year some time. You did not meet one another but since that date you have been speaking and only recently got married to one another. Marriage is the first time you saw one another. When should you put the start date for the relationship? Would it be the date that you got engaged and started speaking to one another even though you didn't physically see one another or would it be the date of marrige.

If date of marriage, can you still provide chat evidence etc before marriage date or is there no point? Thanks

In case of prior engagement to marriage then yes the evidences of subsisting relationship should be from that date. A lot arranged marriages in now a days skip engagement but if someone had chosen it to do then subsisting relationship must start from there.

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 12:40 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 7:48 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 1:25 pm

If its an arranged marriage through family then tick arranged marriage on form. You can also say that your relationship start from wedding date and then supply subsisting relationship documents from that date onward. No issue

Hi what if say you got engaged last year some time. You did not meet one another but since that date you have been speaking and only recently got married to one another. Marriage is the first time you saw one another. When should you put the start date for the relationship? Would it be the date that you got engaged and started speaking to one another even though you didn't physically see one another or would it be the date of marrige.

If date of marriage, can you still provide chat evidence etc before marriage date or is there no point? Thanks

In case of prior engagement to marriage then yes the evidences of subsisting relationship should be from that date. A lot arranged marriages in now a days skip engagement but if someone had chosen it to do then subsisting relationship must start from there.

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Don't indicate about your job which wasn't/isn't giving sufficient earning as long as you can meet the financial requirement through your other job. Doing this isn't a deception because you aren't using such income for visa purposes.

seagul wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 12:40 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 7:48 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 pm

Hi what if say you got engaged last year some time. You did not meet one another but since that date you have been speaking and only recently got married to one another. Marriage is the first time you saw one another. When should you put the start date for the relationship? Would it be the date that you got engaged and started speaking to one another even though you didn't physically see one another or would it be the date of marrige.

If date of marriage, can you still provide chat evidence etc before marriage date or is there no point? Thanks

In case of prior engagement to marriage then yes the evidences of subsisting relationship should be from that date. A lot arranged marriages in now a days skip engagement but if someone had chosen it to do then subsisting relationship must start from there.

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Don't indicate about your job which wasn't/isn't giving sufficient earning as long as you can meet the financial requirement through your other job. Doing this isn't a deception because you aren't using such income for visa purposes.

Hi thanks for replying. The issue is it's stated that I need to inform of any previous job. I have also been paid this month may as final pay so it will show on my bank statements. What do you advise? Thanks

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 10:36 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 12:40 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 7:48 pm

In case of prior engagement to marriage then yes the evidences of subsisting relationship should be from that date. A lot arranged marriages in now a days skip engagement but if someone had chosen it to do then subsisting relationship must start from there.

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Don't indicate about your job which wasn't/isn't giving sufficient earning as long as you can meet the financial requirement through your other job. Doing this isn't a deception because you aren't using such income for visa purposes.

Hi thanks for replying. The issue is it's stated that I need to inform of any previous job. I have also been paid this month may as final pay so it will show on my bank statements. What do you advise? Thanks

The reason that application form ask about previous job is for category B or if you combining other job. No issue if the credit entry is showing from previous job on bank statement because HO will only be interested on that credit entry which matches with your payslips intended for visa purpose.

seagul wrote: ↑

Mon May 13, 2019 8:06 am

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 10:36 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 12:40 pm

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Don't indicate about your job which wasn't/isn't giving sufficient earning as long as you can meet the financial requirement through your other job. Doing this isn't a deception because you aren't using such income for visa purposes.

Hi thanks for replying. The issue is it's stated that I need to inform of any previous job. I have also been paid this month may as final pay so it will show on my bank statements. What do you advise? Thanks

The reason that application form ask about previous job is for category B or if you combining other job. No issue if the credit entry is showing from previous job on bank statement because HO will only be interested on that credit entry which matches with your payslips intended for visa purpose.

Hi thanks for replying. So do you think I should just ignore that and not mention my previous job at all? Thanks for the help so far.

seagul wrote: ↑

Mon May 13, 2019 8:06 am

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 10:36 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 12:40 pm

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Don't indicate about your job which wasn't/isn't giving sufficient earning as long as you can meet the financial requirement through your other job. Doing this isn't a deception because you aren't using such income for visa purposes.

Hi thanks for replying. The issue is it's stated that I need to inform of any previous job. I have also been paid this month may as final pay so it will show on my bank statements. What do you advise? Thanks

The reason that application form ask about previous job is for category B or if you combining other job. No issue if the credit entry is showing from previous job on bank statement because HO will only be interested on that credit entry which matches with your payslips intended for visa purpose.

Hi I wanted to find out whether the TB medical certificate can be shown at the biometrics appointment in pakistan instead of posting it here to me in the U.K. All the rest of supporting documents I will be taking to VFS london. Thanks

seagul wrote: ↑

Mon May 13, 2019 8:06 am

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 10:36 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Sun May 12, 2019 12:40 pm

Hi I hope your well. I wanted you some help with vfa appendix 2. I had two jobs. My main job I've been with 1 year 9 months and earning more than the financial requirement of £18,600 needed. This is salaried employment.

My second job was non-salaried and I had been working for over 2 years. I have left this job end of march.

I will therefore be applying under catorgory A as I meet the financial requirements through my main job. It then asks for any previous jobs and I must provide full details in part 5.

Should I hand write in section 5 my previous employer time I joined and left. Show 6 months payslips and just got my p60 for this also. Haven't been sent my p45 yet but can also show my resignation letter. Is there anything else I need? Am I better of writing this in part 5 or typing on a word document. Thanks for the help

Don't indicate about your job which wasn't/isn't giving sufficient earning as long as you can meet the financial requirement through your other job. Doing this isn't a deception because you aren't using such income for visa purposes.

Hi thanks for replying. The issue is it's stated that I need to inform of any previous job. I have also been paid this month may as final pay so it will show on my bank statements. What do you advise? Thanks

The reason that application form ask about previous job is for category B or if you combining other job. No issue if the credit entry is showing from previous job on bank statement because HO will only be interested on that credit entry which matches with your payslips intended for visa purpose.

Hi regarding the 28 day rule for financial docs etc. Is this 28 days from the application submission or biometrics appointment. My understanding is the biometrics appointment takes place a few days after the application submission.

Also, will vfs global where we scan documents require originals or copies of say the ielts A1 life skills, TB medical certificate and does partner need to sign application form and post or can we scan? Thanks for the help

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 1:25 pm

uj95 wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:40 pm

Just curious to know...where does it specifically state that the relationship starts from when you meet in person?

For long distance relationships, one could talk to someone via video call and stuff for years before meeting in person and therefore this would be classed as a relationship, no?

If its an arranged marriage through family then tick arranged marriage on form. You can also say that your relationship start from wedding date and then supply subsisting relationship documents from that date onward. No issue

Hi what if say you got engaged last year some time. You did not meet one another but since that date you have been speaking and only recently got married to one another. Marriage is the first time you saw one another. When should you put the start date for the relationship? Would it be the date that you got engaged and started speaking to one another even though you didn't physically see one another or would it be the date of marrige.

If date of marriage, can you still provide chat evidence etc before marriage date or is there no point? Thanks

Hi so I got engaged to my partner last october. We did not meet face to face. We got married in April this year and met face to face. Should I put start date of relationship as October. We have been in contact ever since October. Thanks

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 10:39 am

Hi so I got engaged to my partner last october. We did not meet face to face. We got married in April this year and met face to face. Should I put start date of relationship as October. We have been in contact ever since October. Thanks

You are persistently tagging all your various questions onto other members topics. This is unfair to the Original posters and simply creates confusion when members respond. It also takes the original questions and circumstances of the original poster off topic.

Please desist from doing this and keep ALL your questions in your own topic you already have!!!

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CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 11:07 am

Fizzy513 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 10:39 am

Hi so I got engaged to my partner last october. We did not meet face to face. We got married in April this year and met face to face. Should I put start date of relationship as October. We have been in contact ever since October. Thanks

You are persistently tagging all your various questions onto other members topics. This is unfair to the Original posters and simply creates confusion when members respond. It also takes the original questions and circumstances of the original poster off topic.

Please desist from doing this and keep ALL your questions in your own topic you already have!!!

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I suggest you also read the forum rules, particularly point 12 in the topic below.

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Hi I apologise, although it was similar to the first question based on the topic. I didn't mean to take over his post.