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income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:43 pm

Hi All ,
My application for ILR under tier 1 and my wife pbs dependant is with home office and still waiting for a decision on it . my wife is completed 5 years now and eligible to apply ilr set O . if i vary my wife application to Set O and i dont get any decision in few months time and in future if i decide to vary my application to Set LR i need to vary her application again to FLR(M) . is this permitted ?

if I apply for set lr now and vary my wife application to flr m ;;;

my wife works full time for a retail shop as a sales supervisor and she get paid for number of hours she worked .its a permeant zero hour verbal contract job . There is no written contract for the job but employer will provide required employer letter if needed . she has been working for this shop for last three years but in last 12 months two companies take over this business . even though she works in the same address and in the last 12 months she recieved two p45 . since 1st febuary 2019new company take over the business and at the moment she has only two payslips from current employer february 2019 &march 2019 . toatl earnings for the last 2 month is £4000 and since May 2018 worked for 9 months for previous employer and total earning was £13968 and to make total 12 months payslip requirement if i add April 2018 worked in the same premises but for differnt company name and the earning for that april month was £1104 .
so in total from last twelve months from three employer her earning was 19072 . i have all the payslips and p45 from previous employer and she can request for an employement letter from the current employer .
does she meets the income requirement ? if yes what kind of letter should i need to get from current employer ? if any one can advise what should be the content of the letter that would be great

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:45 pm

hi ,
if anyone can help me in this that would be a great help .

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:54 pm

I have gone through the guidance and my understanding is if she has worked less than six months with current employer on a variable income . she has to earn more than 18600 in last twelve months and she has to earn more than 9300 in last six months .
in her case she has earned more than that . to prove this I need to submit last 12 moths payslip and bank statement for 12 months . and employer letter confirms - employed there ,the job title or position hold,how long you or your partner have worked there,the type of contract (for example, permanent, fixed term)
what you or your partner earn before tax and National Insurance ,how long you or your partner have been paid, your current salary and the payslips are genuine

do I need the contract as well ? I can request one from current employer hope they will provide a zero hour contract .

do i need any other document for finance ?


of anybody have more information please ......

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:40 pm

saeed123 wrote: so in total from last twelve months from three employer her earning was 19072 . i have all the payslips and p45 from previous employer and she can request for an employement letter from the current employer .
does she meets the income requirement ? if yes what kind of letter should i need to get from current employer ? if any one can advise what should be the content of the letter that would be great

many thanks
Regarding financial requirement, yes the income seems like sufficient under category B where you will have to supply 12 months of payslips from all employers and bank statements and also the employer letter from recent employer. If possible then also get employer letter from previous employer too because few members has been asked about although shouldn't be needed.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi seagul,
Many thanks for your response.
Do I need to submit the job contract? Is that optional?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:08 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:54 pm
Hi seagul,
Many thanks for your response.
Do I need to submit the job contract? Is that optional?
Yes you can but recent employer letter ideally within 28 days of date of application is mandatory.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:04 pm

Hi seagul,
Thank you for your valuable advice. As she is working on a zero hour contract the employer letter will not have the annual salary it will mention only the hourly rate . Is that enough?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:18 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:04 pm
Hi seagul,
Thank you for your valuable advice. As she is working on a zero hour contract the employer letter will not have the annual salary it will mention only the hourly rate . Is that enough?
In that case the employer can either state the average income of last 12 months or the total income of last 6 months to facilitate HO for calculating earnings through non-salaried person approach.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:38 pm

Hi Seagul,
Many thanks for your valuable advise and just to confirm again does she meets the income requirement . please see her income and employment history below.
Even though she has worked for 3 companies in the last twelve months she was working in the same shop because she started working for company A since September 2017 and in May 2018 Company B took the occupation of that shop and gave job to the existing staff . Again in Feb 2019 Company C took the occupation of the shop and provide job for the existing staff .

worked for company A since September 2017 until 31 of April 2018.
April 2018- £1104 (138 hours @8 )

started working for company B since May 2018 until 31 January 2019 ( £8 per hour)
may 2018 - £1264
June 2018 - £1488
July 2018 - £1684
Aug 2018 - £1408
Sep 2018 - £1712
Oct 2018 - £1212
Nov 2018 - £1600
Dec 2018 - £1600
Jan 2019 - £2000

Started working for company C since February 2019 and still working( £8 per hour)
Feb 2019 - £2000
Mar 2019 - £2000

1)So in the first six months her earnings was £8660 and last six months £10412 . Total of £19072 in last 12 months . Does she meet the income requirement to Apply FLR M ?
2) Company A is not active its already dissolved so its not possible to get a proof of employment letter from Company A , Do I need to mention this in the cover letter ?
3)Does she need to get employer letter from Company A and B ?
4) so I will be using 1 payslip from company A and 9 payslips from company B and 2 payslips from
company C . I have 12 payslips and two p45 .do i need to submit P45 as well.
5) Do I need a p60 ?
6 ) Even though she has started working for Company C on 1st of February her payslips shows pay period as 6th of Feb. to 5th of march . so if the employment letter mention 1st of Feb. as start date will that make any confusion or negative impact on ?

if any one can comment your valuable advises that would be great great help .

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:16 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:38 pm
Hi Seagul,
Many thanks for your valuable advise and just to confirm again does she meets the income requirement . please see her income and employment history below.
Even though she has worked for 3 companies in the last twelve months she was working in the same shop because she started working for company A since September 2017 and in May 2018 Company B took the occupation of that shop and gave job to the existing staff . Again in Feb 2019 Company C took the occupation of the shop and provide job for the existing staff .

worked for company A since September 2017 until 31 of April 2018.
April 2018- £1104 (138 hours @8 )

started working for company B since May 2018 until 31 January 2019 ( £8 per hour)
may 2018 - £1264
June 2018 - £1488
July 2018 - £1684
Aug 2018 - £1408
Sep 2018 - £1712
Oct 2018 - £1212
Nov 2018 - £1600
Dec 2018 - £1600
Jan 2019 - £2000

Started working for company C since February 2019 and still working( £8 per hour)
Feb 2019 - £2000
Mar 2019 - £2000

1)So in the first six months her earnings was £8660 and last six months £10412 . Total of £19072 in last 12 months . Does she meet the income requirement to Apply FLR M ?
2) Company A is not active its already dissolved so its not possible to get a proof of employment letter from Company A , Do I need to mention this in the cover letter ?
3)Does she need to get employer letter from Company A and B ?
4) so I will be using 1 payslip from company A and 9 payslips from company B and 2 payslips from
company C . I have 12 payslips and two p45 .do i need to submit P45 as well.
5) Do I need a p60 ?
6 ) Even though she has started working for Company C on 1st of February her payslips shows pay period as 6th of Feb. to 5th of march . so if the employment letter mention 1st of Feb. as start date will that make any confusion or negative impact on ?

if any one can comment your valuable advises that would be great great help .
1. Under category B you can meet the financial requirement because you have earned at least £18600 during the last 12 months and also your
accumulative wages during latest 6 months is also at least £9300.

2. No need of letter from previous employer but no harm in explaining about previous dissolution in additional info section.

3. Not necessarily but necessarily for employment C

4. Yes fine. Don't attach P45.

5. No

6. No issue
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:43 pm

Thank you seagul,
Her employer never provide original payslips. From the head office they send email as pdf to the store manager and he print and give to the staff. So she have just a printed copy of the payslips for all months. Is that enough?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:04 pm

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Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:43 pm
Thank you seagul,
Her employer never provide original payslips. From the head office they send email as pdf to the store manager and he print and give to the staff. So she have just a printed copy of the payslips for all months. Is that enough?
Get them stamped or ask for the letter confirming their authenticity.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:15 pm

Letter is possible from company B and C only . Any solutions for company A .
Thank you

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:56 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:15 pm
Letter is possible from company B and C only . Any solutions for company A .
Thank you
They won't ask any letter from dissolved company. Only employer letter from present employer is needed.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:42 am

I mean The letter to confirm the authenticity of the payslips? How do I prove the authenticity of the pay slips from company A . They are not original payslips and I will not be able to get a letter from them as the company is dissolved ?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:18 am

saeed123 wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:42 am
I mean The letter to confirm the authenticity of the payslips? How do I prove the authenticity of the pay slips from company A . They are not original payslips and I will not be able to get a letter from them as the company is dissolved ?
You can attach original P45 and state the reason in covering letter that the previous company has been dissolved.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:27 pm

Thank you seagul,
Is this p45 has any original ? Her p45 is a copy of the pdf which received by email from employer, I printed in a white A4 sheet . Is that enough.

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:18 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:27 pm
Thank you seagul,
Is this p45 has any original ? Her p45 is a copy of the pdf which received by email from employer, I printed in a white A4 sheet . Is that enough.
It might work. State the difficulty you getting in getting these in original format or stamped in covering letter. Should be fine.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:18 pm

Hi seagul,
How do I calculate annual salary for company A .
Is that 1104 X 12 or do in need to add up actual figures from previous payslip . I am submitting only one payslip from company A?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:37 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:18 pm
Hi seagul,
How do I calculate annual salary for company A .
Is that 1104 X 12 or do in need to add up actual figures from previous payslip . I am submitting only one payslip from company A?
You need to apply under category B as stated above. For this purpose you will have to take the total of all of your income during the last 12 months including the income from company A.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:52 pm

I understand that . But in the application form ask for the all employment in the last 12 months and if I give 3 employer detail ,under each employer there is a column to put annual salary? How do I calculate annual salary for each employer?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:21 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:52 pm
I understand that . But in the application form ask for the all employment in the last 12 months and if I give 3 employer detail ,under each employer there is a column to put annual salary? How do I calculate annual salary for each employer?
Add up the total income from each employer.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:20 pm

Hi seagul,
In that way from employer C ,I am submitting 2 payslips total earned 2000 x 2 = 4000 ( so annual salary is 4000/2 X 12 =24000

Employer B worked for 9 months and , I am submitting 9 payslips. Total earnings from9 months = 13968 ( annual salary 13968 / 9 X 12 =18624

From Employer A worked for 7 ,I am submitting only one payslip and my earnings for that month was 1104 so annual salary 1104 X 12 = 13248

Originally she worked for employer A for total 7 months total earnings for that 7 months was 7924.

7924 / 7 =1132 X 12 = 13584.

To avoid some mistakes in the form could you please help me to write what is her annual income for company A ?
Company B ?
Company C ?

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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by seagul » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:17 pm

saeed123 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:20 pm
Hi seagul,
In that way from employer C ,I am submitting 2 payslips total earned 2000 x 2 = 4000 ( so annual salary is 4000/2 X 12 =24000

Employer B worked for 9 months and , I am submitting 9 payslips. Total earnings from9 months = 13968 ( annual salary 13968 / 9 X 12 =18624

From Employer A worked for 7 ,I am submitting only one payslip and my earnings for that month was 1104 so annual salary 1104 X 12 = 13248

Originally she worked for employer A for total 7 months total earnings for that 7 months was 7924.

7924 / 7 =1132 X 12 = 13584.

To avoid some mistakes in the form could you please help me to write what is her annual income for company A ?
Company B ?
Company C ?
Following will be the right way of getting annual figure under category B:

Job C= £4000
Job B= £13968
Job A= £1104
£19072 (total annual income)

Under category B £19072 will fulfill its 2nd part. And to fulfill its 1st part you need to take the total of your last 6 months wages then divide by 6 then multiply by 12. Resulting figure must be at least £18600.
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Re: income requirement for flr m

Post by saeed123 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:10 pm

I am clear with what you’re explaining. But my doubt is in the application form

what to write
annual income for company A?

annual income for company B?

annual income for company C?

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