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10 years long residence applications

Please use this section of the board for queries about Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR). However please use the EEA-route section for queries about the EEA-route equivalent of Permanent Residence (PR).


This section is relevant irrespective of whether current status is Tiered or Non-Tiered.

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terriblefish
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Re: feel like giving up now

Post by terriblefish » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:31 pm

boonbin wrote:tell you all a sad story.....

friend told me that he got a friend who applied 10 years long residence, submitted two years still not decided yet.solicitor told him that immigration has strict under 10 years long residence. which 10 years case unfortunately mixed with 14 year unlawful and asylum together. disaster, consider among of us waiting six months or more, we all might end up wait another, couple weeks, months, years. that really push me to corner and like like givng up now. will give myself a dateline wait until early of april if still not decided, fed up.

contact Freedom of information team, no direct response!
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c ... ication_se

Depressingly we all legal lawful stay being treated unfairly same faith like 14 years unlawful applicants and asylum seekers at the moment. any of you have very good idea and complaint matters / letter template which can share to rise concerns about our category to related department.
Hi Boobin,
You might find that it helps to ask them direct statistical questions, and as long as it does not cost them over 600 pounds or something, they will answer you question.

So for example you can ask:

-what is the average processing time for 10 ILR applicants in the last 6 months.
-what is the average processing time for non-straightforward 10 year ILR applications in the last 6 months.

Under the freedom of information act, they have to asnwer questions like these.

If you word your questions clearly and concisely, i.e if they can asnwer it in a few lines, you are more likely to get what you are looking for.

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Post by terriblefish » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:33 pm

or in your case->

what is the average processing time of postal applications which are not completed in the 6 months service standard, in the past 6 months.

Better yet ->
what is the average processing time of 10 year ILR postal applications which are not completed in the 6 months service standard, in the past 6 months.

Something to that effect.

aman5
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Post by aman5 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:44 pm


coolboyuk
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Post by coolboyuk » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:06 pm

it is a joke isn't it ???? they keep sending the "same automated reply" . it looks like we are really helpless ... :roll:

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Post by foxy » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:20 pm

Looks like we're not the only ones in this hole. Virtually nobody who's applied under long residence appears to be getting a decision. It is quite possible this whole farce may well end up taking a year or more to be decided.

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Post by aman5 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:44 pm

Perhaps formatting of the letter could be something on these lines:

Subject: ‘10 years continuous legal stay’ Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) applications

Dear Sir/Ma'am,

I write this letter for certain information specifically pertaining to people applying under '10 years continuous legal stay in UK' indefinite leave to remain category.

My Query(s)

1. From 1st January 2010 UKBA stopped accepting same day applications for people applying under 10 years continuous legal stay in UK category.

Would appreciate if exact reason is disclosed for withdrawing the same day facility for people applying under '10 years continuous legal stay in UK' ILR while still allowing some other categories applying for ILR the facility to apply under the same day premium service facility as this directive could be perhaps highly discriminatory, per se, in nature.

2. Accordingly on UKBA website waiting time for ILR applications for long stay applications is as follows:

• UKBA decides 95% of postal applications within six months;

Please could you give a exact breakdown (actual numbers) of application received between 1st February 2009 and 28th February 2010 under ‘10 years continuous legal stay in UK’ indefinite leave to remain category and how many of these applications (actual numbers) were decided within 6 months?

Please could you also in your reply give exact breakdown of number of cases which UKBA took more than 6 months to decide between the period 1st Feb. 2009 and 28th Feb 2010?

Also, what was the average time as well as maximum time taken to decide cases which fall in the remaining 5% that do not get a decision within 6 months of their ILR applications?

Lastly, please could UKBA confirm whether when processing applications, applications under '10 years continuous lawful stay in UK' ILR category are clubbed along with asylum applications in UKBA i.e. caseworkers of a particular unit in UKBA who are assigned to deal with asylum applications are also assigned to deal with '10 years continuous legal stay in UK' applications?

I await your reply.

Many Thanks and Kind Regards,

....
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boonbin
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Post by boonbin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:52 pm

Hi Aman5, very good points and formal letter, where would you send to raising cencerns?

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Post by aman5 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:00 pm

Hi Boonbin

Yesterday userid 'terriblefish' wrote:
You might find that it helps to ask them direct statistical questions, and as long as it does not cost them over 600 pounds or something, they will answer you question.
So I was suggesting you could, perhaps, raise your query(s) under FOI Act in this manner to elicit a more clearer and specific response from UKBA.

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Post by boonbin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:10 pm

if requesting to FOI, kinda waste of time, no direct response question will answer. all can get is like automated response.

i will use this template to complaint to UKBA, raise an issues to PM, home of secretary, Minister of State (Borders and Immigration) as well.

coolboyuk
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Post by coolboyuk » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:11 pm

good template. I think every one should send this to draw the attention.

Can i ask you all a question?

When you guys all say "10 years Long term" , have you been under student visa ? in my case yes .

boonbin
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Post by boonbin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:28 pm

in my case...
6 years legal continuely study visa as student
4 years granted work permit and next year work permit visa due.

consider legally stay within 10 years and no absence gap at all.

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Post by coolboyuk » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:32 pm

what do you guys think about we ALL go to the number 10 downing street ?

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Post by boonbin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:58 pm

unless we have crowd of applicants join and dispute it. as we located in different places and hard to assembles. unless we spreads out the words see who will willing to attend....

i definately a first 1!
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coolboyuk
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willing to attend - THE LIST

Post by coolboyuk » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:09 pm

  • boonbin
    coolboyuk

boonbin
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lists of carbinet ministers

Post by boonbin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:18 pm

i have the lists which if you want to draw an attention as well for our issues.

http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/ministe ... ts/ho.aspx

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THE LIST - Willing to attend at 10 Downing Street

Post by boonbin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:24 pm

[quote="coolboyuk"]

THE LIST - Willing to attend at 10 Downing Street to dispute against SET(O) 10 years legal stay treated unfairly and long wait. privisional date (End of March or early April) if we all agree to go ahead!!!

1) boonbin
2) coolboyuk

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Re: THE LIST - Willing to attend at 10 Downing Street

Post by coolboyuk » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:38 pm

Nice one. do you think we should get Solicitor involved too?

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Transitional arrangements for earned citizenship

Post by coolboyuk » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:06 pm

Does this apply to us too ? ? ? ?

# If a migrant has already been given indefinite leave to remain (also known as settlement) on the date when earned citizenship is introduced, they will automatically be considered to be a 'permanent resident'. They will not need to pay or apply for this to occur. They will be eligible to apply for British citizenship under the current rules during the first two years after earned citizenship is introduced.

# If a migrant has applied for indefinite leave to remain before the date when earned citizenship is introduced, and is subsequently granted indefinite leave to remain, they will be eligible to apply for British citizenship under the current rules during the first two years after earned citizenship is introduced.

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Post by terriblefish » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:14 am

aman5 wrote:Perhaps formatting of the letter could be something on these lines:

Subject: ‘10 years continuous legal stay’ Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) applications

Dear Sir/Ma'am,

I write this letter for certain information specifically pertaining to people applying under '10 years continuous legal stay in UK' indefinite leave to remain category.

My Query(s)

1. From 1st January 2010 UKBA stopped accepting same day applications for people applying under 10 years continuous legal stay in UK category.

Would appreciate if exact reason is disclosed for withdrawing the same day facility for people applying under '10 years continuous legal stay in UK' ILR while still allowing some other categories applying for ILR the facility to apply under the same day premium service facility as this directive could be perhaps highly discriminatory, per se, in nature.

2. Accordingly on UKBA website waiting time for ILR applications for long stay applications is as follows:

• UKBA decides 95% of postal applications within six months;

Please could you give a exact breakdown (actual numbers) of application received between 1st February 2009 and 28th February 2010 under ‘10 years continuous legal stay in UK’ indefinite leave to remain category and how many of these applications (actual numbers) were decided within 6 months?

Please could you also in your reply give exact breakdown of number of cases which UKBA took more than 6 months to decide between the period 1st Feb. 2009 and 28th Feb 2010?

Also, what was the average time as well as maximum time taken to decide cases which fall in the remaining 5% that do not get a decision within 6 months of their ILR applications?

Lastly, please could UKBA confirm whether when processing applications, applications under '10 years continuous lawful stay in UK' ILR category are clubbed along with asylum applications in UKBA i.e. caseworkers of a particular unit in UKBA who are assigned to deal with asylum applications are also assigned to deal with '10 years continuous legal stay in UK' applications?

I await your reply.

Many Thanks and Kind Regards,

....
Please dont mind when i say this, but i think this is too long winded and the questions being asked are buried in too many words. Think about if you were working there and getting thousands of emails a day and seeing a large wordy email, one would probably skim read it if not just stick an automated reply. Its good to be clear and precise and not too emotional.


Maybe something in the lines of:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to request some informaiton under the Freedom Of Information Act regarding 10-year ILR applicantions.

1. What was the total number of 10-year ILR applications in the past year?
2. How many applications under the 10-year ILR were prcessed in less than 6 months in the past year?
3. ...
4. ... etc

Thank you for your cooperation.
Yours Sincerely,
Mr X.

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Post by aman5 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:58 am

Boonbin and userid 'coolboyuk'

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