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johnpromise01
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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by johnpromise01 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:11 pm

Vorona wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:01 pm
johnpromise01 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:26 pm
Ok. How exactly does the good character check is specified in the letter?
scan of my second stage letter: https://ibb.co/WK540Q2
Thanks Vorona. Clearly mentioning "moved to second stage" doesn't matter even though it was stated in my last letter :D

But what I still didn't understand is that, my brother applied in January 2021 and got this same letter like yours but the letter came with his passport and receipts. Can it be said that it's also a second stage letter when he only just applied in January 2021?

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by ssireland » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:35 pm

Vorona wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:59 pm
I received my Certificate of naturalisation yesterday :D
Good luck to everyone who is still waiting.
Congratulations. When did you sent your signed affidavit? I sent mine 17th Feb. Still waiting

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by alhakeem » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 pm

johnpromise01 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:11 pm
Can it be said that it's also a second stage letter when he only just applied in January 2021?
Yes !

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Mimi2016 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:56 pm

Hi
Who's from Northern Ireland and got his certificate?

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by NiallPP » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:12 pm

Vorona wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:01 pm
johnpromise01 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:26 pm
Ok. How exactly does the good character check is specified in the letter?
scan of my second stage letter: https://ibb.co/WK540Q2
Interestingly this is the same wording of the letter that came back with passport and receipts last week after a 4 month wait. Should it be interpreted as a second stage letter?

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Vorona » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:32 pm

Guys, let's not spam the topic and discuss anything second-stage letter related in the dedicated topipc:

ireland/citizenship-applications-conten ... 07795.html

Answering your question, if the first letter that you received was like my second stage letter, then it's most likely a negligence of the Department. Human error basically. I don't believe that they could move to the second stage this quickly, especially with all the restrictions. Most likely you will get the same letter again as the second stage letter in a few months.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Vorona » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:34 pm

ssireland wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:35 pm
Congratulations. When did you sent your signed affidavit? I sent mine 17th Feb. Still waiting
Thank you. I sent mine on 15 of February.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by nordieapp » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:49 am

Mimi2016 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:56 pm
Hi
Who's from Northern Ireland and got his certificate?
Hi, could anyone in NI who has received their certificate or been rejected please update here? We are trying to find out if we can use an NI based solicitor as witness for the declaration. I have emailed the minister about this in Jan and Feb but no reply. Thank you.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Bealtaine » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:15 am

Hello everyone,

Just wondering if one’s mother’s maiden name is mentioned on the cert of naturalisation?

Thanks.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Vorona » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:19 am

nordieapp wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:49 am
Hi, could anyone in NI who has received their certificate or been rejected please update here? We are trying to find out if we can use an NI based solicitor as witness for the declaration. I have emailed the minister about this in Jan and Feb but no reply. Thank you.
The answer is "No" - https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... -Certs.pdf
"The Witness must be resident in the State and the Declaration must be administered / witnessed in the State".

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by nordieapp » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:32 am

Vorona wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:19 am
nordieapp wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:49 am
Hi, could anyone in NI who has received their certificate or been rejected please update here? We are trying to find out if we can use an NI based solicitor as witness for the declaration. I have emailed the minister about this in Jan and Feb but no reply. Thank you.
The answer is "No" - https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... -Certs.pdf
"The Witness must be resident in the State and the Declaration must be administered / witnessed in the State".
Thanks for replying Vorona. The reason I query if witnessing in NI is acceptable is because much of the original application used the term 'the state' interchangeably with 'the island of Ireland' and many application questions accepted 'the state' to encompass NI. Queries to the department to clarify it resulted in different responses at that time. That was 2 years ago.

We are almost at final hurdle and, given restrictions of pandemic, I was really hoping this ambiguity about NI/state/Island might also be the case. It would save a lot of hassle right now if same local witness was acceptable. If anyone has a definitive decision either way I'd be keen to hear. Thank you.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Vorona » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:44 am

nordieapp wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:32 am
Thanks for replying Vorona. The reason I query if witnessing in NI is acceptable is because much of the original application used the term 'the state' interchangeably with 'the island of Ireland' and many application questions accepted 'the state' to encompass NI. Queries to the department to clarify it resulted in different responses at that time. That was 2 years ago.

We are almost at final hurdle and, given restrictions of pandemic, I was really hoping this ambiguity about NI/state/Island might also be the case. It would save a lot of hassle right now if same local witness was acceptable. If anyone has a definitive decision either way I'd be keen to hear. Thank you.
No worries. The word State has always been regarded as to the Republic of Ireland.
Northern Ireland may have special agreements with the State, but it is not considered as part of it. Therefore it must be a legal professional registered and active in the Republic.

You may try to cross to the Republic, but I would strongly advise not to. You can learn about potential consequences of being caught from the official resources.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Stanina » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:22 pm

Maybe it will be considered essential service, legal services are listed as essential. I guess if you need to visit court it will be exempt from 5KM restrictions.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158 ... activities

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Winchester » Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:06 pm

Certificate Received this Morning!!!! =)

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by twista » Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:16 pm

Congrats winchester when did you send the affidavit.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Winchester » Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:27 pm

twista wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:16 pm
Congrats winchester when did you send the affidavit.
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5th of February. Certificate was dated yesterday.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by KinsaleMan » Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:49 pm

Received my certificate this morning too. :D :D

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by ssireland » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:27 pm

KinsaleMan wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:49 pm
Received my certificate this morning too. :D :D
When did you send you r affidavit?

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by KinsaleMan » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:36 pm

ssireland wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:27 pm
KinsaleMan wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:49 pm
Received my certificate this morning too. :D :D
When did you send you r affidavit?
Sent it back on 1st Feb

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by nojoyfrominis » Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:19 am

Submitted all the docs and fees online and sent declaration by post along with Irp card on 4th March. Status on inis website showing as submitted. Can everyone please update their status when it moves to completed.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by ssireland » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:15 am

nojoyfrominis wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:19 am
Submitted all the docs and fees online and sent declaration by post along with Irp card on 4th March. Status on inis website showing as submitted. Can everyone please update their status when it moves to completed.
This thread is for sending the signed affidavit after receiving the citizenship approval letter to receive naturalization certificate. Either you got into a wrong thread or you are just throwing bluffs out of blue. Because

1) There is no way you can pay CItizenship fees online.Its always bank draft
2) There is no way you can check the status in the inis website for Citizenship application.

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by Wow90 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am

There is an online system now:

"Introduction of new E-Payment System

As above outlined, when a person is notified by the Minister for Justice that it is her intention to issue them with a Certificate of Naturalisation, they are asked to submit payment in the sum of €950 to the Department of Justice. A new e-payment system has been introduced to allow applicants to pay the €950 online as an alternative to submitting a physical bank draft to the Department of Justice. The online payment process can be accessed using the following link. Applicants need to set up an account if they do not already have one and choose the option ‘Applications for Naturalisation’. They will then find a dropdown menu entitled ‘Citizenship Certificate Fee’ and then they should follow the steps to complete the process and pay the relevant fee. "

I would paste the link, but it belongs to a famous inmigration firm. So idk if that's allow. But if you google the above you'll find where it came from

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by ssireland » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:33 am

Wow90 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am
There is an online system now:

"Introduction of new E-Payment System

As above outlined, when a person is notified by the Minister for Justice that it is her intention to issue them with a Certificate of Naturalisation, they are asked to submit payment in the sum of €950 to the Department of Justice. A new e-payment system has been introduced to allow applicants to pay the €950 online as an alternative to submitting a physical bank draft to the Department of Justice. The online payment process can be accessed using the following link. Applicants need to set up an account if they do not already have one and choose the option ‘Applications for Naturalisation’. They will then find a dropdown menu entitled ‘Citizenship Certificate Fee’ and then they should follow the steps to complete the process and pay the relevant fee. "

I would paste the link, but it belongs to a famous inmigration firm. So idk if that's allow. But if you google the above you'll find where it came from

I can't find any. If its official, WHy they haven't published in the immigration website? ANd also he mentions about the inis website status. Can you paste that link atleast where we can find the status of the application

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by ssireland » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:54 am

ssireland wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:33 am
Wow90 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am
There is an online system now:

"Introduction of new E-Payment System

As above outlined, when a person is notified by the Minister for Justice that it is her intention to issue them with a Certificate of Naturalisation, they are asked to submit payment in the sum of €950 to the Department of Justice. A new e-payment system has been introduced to allow applicants to pay the €950 online as an alternative to submitting a physical bank draft to the Department of Justice. The online payment process can be accessed using the following link. Applicants need to set up an account if they do not already have one and choose the option ‘Applications for Naturalisation’. They will then find a dropdown menu entitled ‘Citizenship Certificate Fee’ and then they should follow the steps to complete the process and pay the relevant fee. "

I would paste the link, but it belongs to a famous inmigration firm. So idk if that's allow. But if you google the above you'll find where it came from
Found it. Sorry. Apologies I was wrong

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Re: Affidavits for approved applications and next ceremony

Post by fuzzbizz » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:00 am

Wow90 wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:23 am
There is an online system now:

"Introduction of new E-Payment System

As above outlined, when a person is notified by the Minister for Justice that it is her intention to issue them with a Certificate of Naturalisation, they are asked to submit payment in the sum of €950 to the Department of Justice. A new e-payment system has been introduced to allow applicants to pay the €950 online as an alternative to submitting a physical bank draft to the Department of Justice. The online payment process can be accessed using the following link. Applicants need to set up an account if they do not already have one and choose the option ‘Applications for Naturalisation’. They will then find a dropdown menu entitled ‘Citizenship Certificate Fee’ and then they should follow the steps to complete the process and pay the relevant fee. "

I would paste the link, but it belongs to a famous inmigration firm. So idk if that's allow. But if you google the above you'll find where it came from

I admit I was skeptical but after searching, yeah, might be legit. In fairness it's not like DOJ are great about keeping their site up to date.

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