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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by MKCG » Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:57 pm

DSMcGuire wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm
Bun_123 wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:27 am
DSMcGuire wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:34 am
Hi all, I've been following this thread for over two years and I can finally contribute!

Date of Application: 12/03/2020
Date of Address Confirmation: 26/07/2022
Date of Congratulations: pending
FBR Certification Received: pending
DSMcGuire congrats! To double check, was your application received 12th March?
Yes I can confirm that my applciation was received on the 12/03/2020. That was the last email I had regarding my application since receiving my date of address confirmation yesterday.
Wow.
A March approval and a mid March approval at that. This gives the late March folk like myself a bit of hope

My congrats

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by djx138 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:09 am

Morning all!

Long time reader, first time poster…

Date of Application: 01/01/2021
Documents Received: 07/06/2022

I concur with someone else saying don’t wait for favours from family to get hold of the documents… it took over a year to get hold of the documents, wasn’t aware I could have just ordered fresh copies from Ireland :(

Waiting for the documents and then seeing the ‘do not send your documents’ on the FBR site means that my application is hugely delayed… guess I’ll be waiting til at least 2024 for my FBR certificate :?

I also didn’t know anyone ‘personally’ from the list of witnesses so that was an extra delay, but at least all sorted from my side, for now.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Zanthus » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:03 am

Hi,

Another long time lurker on this board......

Online application: 06 Feb 2020

Documents received: 24 Feb 2020

Confirmation of address: 27 July 2022

Wow.......

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:39 pm

Zanthus wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:03 am
Hi,

Another long time lurker on this board......

Online application: 06 Feb 2020

Documents received: 24 Feb 2020

Confirmation of address: 27 July 2022

Wow.......
Congrats! nice to see Feb moving along.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by walter3ca » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm

I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by joemac41 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:27 pm

walter3ca wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?

does she have an old passport? Send them a copy of that.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by corky100 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:35 pm

walter3ca wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?
They may want *your* marriage certificate - It has been posted on this forum before. It is of course totally irrelevant, but the excuse is "it helps build a picture".

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by brooklyn92 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:52 pm

Has anyone applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Registration while missing their parent's ID?
I am not on speaking terms with my father and he will not send me a photocopy of his ID card, but he registered on the FBR after I was born.

I sent my application in back in 2020 and finally received a resonse but they want his ID. I recall hearing of other people in similar situations who were appoved, so any feedback from others would be approceiated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:20 pm

brooklyn92 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:52 pm
Has anyone applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Registration while missing their parent's ID?
I am not on speaking terms with my father and he will not send me a photocopy of his ID card, but he registered on the FBR after I was born.

I sent my application in back in 2020 and finally received a resonse but they want his ID. I recall hearing of other people in similar situations who were appoved, so any feedback from others would be approceiated.

Thanks in advance.
I've seen this on here a few times. If you search for "estrangement" or "estranged" in the forum you should find replies of people in this situation. Here's one answer I found from a quick search:

"Some member have been advised to send in cover letter explaining the situation. Others have included an affidavit or sworn statement witnessed and signed by a solicitor attesting to the parental alienation/estrangement."

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by brooklyn92 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:39 pm

Dalton_Trumbo wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:20 pm
brooklyn92 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:52 pm
Has anyone applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Registration while missing their parent's ID?
I am not on speaking terms with my father and he will not send me a photocopy of his ID card, but he registered on the FBR after I was born.

I sent my application in back in 2020 and finally received a resonse but they want his ID. I recall hearing of other people in similar situations who were appoved, so any feedback from others would be approceiated.

Thanks in advance.
I've seen this on here a few times. If you search for "estrangement" or "estranged" in the forum you should find replies of people in this situation. Here's one answer I found from a quick search:

"Some member have been advised to send in cover letter explaining the situation. Others have included an affidavit or sworn statement witnessed and signed by a solicitor attesting to the parental alienation/estrangement."
Thank you! I did include a letter with my original application in 2020, but who knows if the letter was lost in the shuffle these past few years. I will search estrangement in the forum and see how it went for others.

Also, just to clarify to anyone reading this in the future. I am elligible to apply through the FBR through my Irish born grandparents. The FBR response indicated they can't continue with the application until they receive my father's ID. I provided all other documents regarding myself, my father, and both grandparents.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:46 pm

brooklyn92 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:39 pm
Dalton_Trumbo wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:20 pm
brooklyn92 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:52 pm
Has anyone applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Registration while missing their parent's ID?
I am not on speaking terms with my father and he will not send me a photocopy of his ID card, but he registered on the FBR after I was born.

I sent my application in back in 2020 and finally received a resonse but they want his ID. I recall hearing of other people in similar situations who were appoved, so any feedback from others would be approceiated.

Thanks in advance.
I've seen this on here a few times. If you search for "estrangement" or "estranged" in the forum you should find replies of people in this situation. Here's one answer I found from a quick search:

"Some member have been advised to send in cover letter explaining the situation. Others have included an affidavit or sworn statement witnessed and signed by a solicitor attesting to the parental alienation/estrangement."
Thank you! I did include a letter with my original application in 2020, but who knows if the letter was lost in the shuffle these past few years. I will search estrangement in the forum and see how it went for others.

Also, just to clarify to anyone reading this in the future. I am elligible to apply through the FBR through my Irish born grandparents. The FBR response indicated they can't continue with the application until they receive my father's ID. I provided all other documents regarding myself, my father, and both grandparents.
No problem, I would say the key thing here is something "official" i.e. "sworn statement witnessed and signed by a solicitor attesting to the parental alienation/estrangement." , an actual affidavit, I.e. statement made under oath witnessed and signed by an official person. Should be plenty of options around Brooklyn.(Southside Williamsburg was my old haunting ground for many many years).

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by FBRLurker » Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:44 pm

brooklyn92 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:52 pm
Has anyone applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Registration while missing their parent's ID?
I am not on speaking terms with my father and he will not send me a photocopy of his ID card, but he registered on the FBR after I was born.

I sent my application in back in 2020 and finally received a resonse but they want his ID. I recall hearing of other people in similar situations who were appoved, so any feedback from others would be approceiated.

Thanks in advance.
I would certainly be interested in hearing how you get on with this! I only applied a couple of months back (documents were received 2nd June 2022), but I wasn't able to include a photocopy of my grandfather's ID, as my family have all been estranged from him for some 20 years (and I've never met him myself). I included an affidavit with my application, which I think others have done too, but with previous searches I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone actually confirm they've been approved (or denied) via such methods.

In my case, I also included photocopies of my grandparents divorce decree nisi (which my grandmother had on hand), and my grandfather's brother's birth certificate and (unnotarised due to country barrier) photocopy of passport. My grandfather's brother's documents might be over-compensating a bit and may not actually be relevant. I mostly did it on a whim.

Best of luck!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:53 pm

I'm in a very similar predicament. I sent mines off in January this year and I am missing my parents state ID document due to estrangement. Sent in an affidavit aswell as a photocopy of her brothers state ID and his birth certificate on a whim, even if it isn't relevant.

I did see someone back in December who got approved whilst missing their fathers state ID. So it seems the decision on whether to approve or deny with regards to this issue is entirely arbitrary.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:05 am

ireland/foreign-birth-registration-t277 ... l#p2031199

Above is the link to the aforementioned person who succeeded whilst missing state ID. It is incredibly strange how some are succeeding but others are not. It was this person's post that spurred to add my mothers brothers state ID and birth certificate in addition to my cover letter and affidavit.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by walter3ca » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:59 am

joemac41 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:27 pm
walter3ca wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?

does she have an old passport? Send them a copy of that.
Nope. She has been dead since 1989.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by walter3ca » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:00 am

corky100 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:35 pm
walter3ca wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?
They may want *your* marriage certificate - It has been posted on this forum before. It is of course totally irrelevant, but the excuse is "it helps build a picture".
But I have never been married.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Celtic_Bee » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:20 am

Celtic_Bee wrote:
Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:07 pm
Celtic_Bee wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:13 pm
Date of Application: 02/17/2020
Date of Address Confirmation: 07/11/2022
Date of Congratulations: 07/25/2022
FBR Certification Received: 07/30/2022

All documents returned to me except the 'key' I included explaining what each document was by the number system I used.The local post office delivered and left in the mailbox without asking for a signature but not surprising for them. I have completed the online portion of the passport application and after a trip to the local bank will send the certificate back with the rest of the necessary documentation. Easy come (Ha!) Easy go.
Congrats to all who are receiving something after such a long wait. To the others still waiting...Don't give up!!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:55 am

Celtic_Bee wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:20 am
Celtic_Bee wrote:
Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:07 pm
Celtic_Bee wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:13 pm
Date of Application: 02/17/2020
Date of Address Confirmation: 07/11/2022
Date of Congratulations: 07/25/2022
FBR Certification Received: 07/30/2022

All documents returned to me except the 'key' I included explaining what each document was by the number system I used.The local post office delivered and left in the mailbox without asking for a signature but not surprising for them. I have completed the online portion of the passport application and after a trip to the local bank will send the certificate back with the rest of the necessary documentation. Easy come (Ha!) Easy go.
Congrats to all who are receiving something after such a long wait. To the others still waiting...Don't give up!!

Wow that was fast! Did you receive the email with the tracking link? I got my Congrats email the day after you, I have not received any email with tracking info for the cert.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Celtic_Bee » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:04 pm

No tracking information was included in my "congrats" email. Just a statement saying the certificate had been printed and posted to me. I'm sure yours is on the way.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:39 pm

Celtic_Bee wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:04 pm
No tracking information was included in my "congrats" email. Just a statement saying the certificate had been printed and posted to me. I'm sure yours is on the way.
Okay, thanks. I thought they used to give you the tracking number so you could make sure you're there to sign for it. We'll see what happens. I'm in Italy right now and won't be home for another week. I signed up for informed delivery, so hopefully I'll see it when it's coming and be able to get someone to go over and sign for it, if needed. Did it come to you via the USPS?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Seanpd » Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:13 pm

Final post! Good luck & all the best everyone!!

Update information:

Date of Application: 7th February 2020
Date Documents received: 17th February 2020
Date of Address Confirmation: 17th July 2022
Date of Congratulations: 27th July 2022
FBR Certification Received: 1st August 2022

Like other recent posters, while large envelope clearly says on it ‘Registered Post Signature Required’ it was just posted through letterbox along with normal mail.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Seanpd » Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:13 pm

Final post! Good luck & all the best everyone!!

Update information:

Date of Application: 7th February 2020
Date Documents received: 17th February 2020
Date of Address Confirmation: 17th July 2022
Date of Congratulations: 27th July 2022
FBR Certification Received: 1st August 2022

Like other recent posters, while large envelope clearly says on it ‘Registered Post Signature Required’ it was just posted through letterbox along with normal mail.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:08 pm

Seanpd wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:13 pm
Final post! Good luck & all the best everyone!!

Update information:

Date of Application: 7th February 2020
Date Documents received: 17th February 2020
Date of Address Confirmation: 17th July 2022
Date of Congratulations: 27th July 2022
FBR Certification Received: 1st August 2022

Like other recent posters, while large envelope clearly says on it ‘Registered Post Signature Required’ it was just posted through letterbox along with normal mail.
Congrats Sean! Mine is in the mail, looks to be delivered tomorrow. I won't be there, but hopefully either I can E--sign online or they just drop it into the box.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by walter3ca » Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:03 pm

walter3ca wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:00 am
corky100 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:35 pm
walter3ca wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?
They may want *your* marriage certificate - It has been posted on this forum before. It is of course totally irrelevant, but the excuse is "it helps build a picture".
But I have never been married.
Now they have clarified. Nothing about her birth certificate. They want ANOTHER copy of my mother's marriage certificate.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by walter3ca » Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:03 pm

walter3ca wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:00 am
corky100 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:35 pm
walter3ca wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
I finally got my communication from Ireland. They received my paperwork on February 25, 2020. I sent to them a Certificate of Non-Existence regarding my mother's birth certificate from the county and her baptismal certifiicate. They said that a baptismal certificate was not acceptable. They also wanted "Original civil marriage certificate." They didn't specify my parents or grandparents. In any event, both were supplied.

I cannot give them what does not exist. Am I dealing with idiots?
They may want *your* marriage certificate - It has been posted on this forum before. It is of course totally irrelevant, but the excuse is "it helps build a picture".
But I have never been married.
Now they have clarified. Nothing about her birth certificate. They want ANOTHER copy of my mother's marriage certificate.

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