I need some help

hii guys...We are two friends, I want to marry an lithuanian girl and my friend also want to another lithuanian girl. My ques was is there any problem if we both stay in same appartment with the girls???is this effect the stamp 4 visa??there will be any problem from the landlord certificate when we are going for visa interview???please reply for me...

Rockz: you have started numerous threads on the same topic. Please don't do this. With each further post of yours, the more this sounds like a sham marriage. Note that your Lithuanian fiancee doesn't have the right to remain in Ireland unless she can support herself (i.e. has savings or a job). Any right that you could get on the basis of marriage to her depends on her right to live here.

its not a sham marriage...

scrudu wrote:... your Lithuanian fiancee doesn't have the right to remain in Ireland unless she can support herself ...

Er? Lithuania is in EU last time I checked, so she can live in Ireland if she wants. I do not know whether the OP will get "stamp 4" or not, but I think the fact that he actually intends to "stay" in the same apartment with his wife can actually help to prove that there is a "genuine" relationship. On the second question -- I wish the OP and his friend a lot of luck living with two girls in the same apartment

victor8600 wrote:

scrudu wrote:... your Lithuanian fiancee doesn't have the right to remain in Ireland unless she can support herself ...

Er? Lithuania is in EU last time I checked, so she can live in Ireland if she wants.

..provided she is employed, self-employed, enrolled in a course of study or is economic self-sufficient.

You are free to live together as you wish.
However, as Scrudu mentioned, the marriage will be of no legal benefit to you unless the Lithuanian girls are exercising EU rights: re: working, studying or have savings of their own, re: money not provided by you.
These requirements & other criteria will be verified by the authorities.

http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/ci ... ent_en.htm

European citizens have the right to enter, reside and remain in the territory of any other Member State for a period of up to three months simply by presenting a valid passport or national identity card: no other formality is required. If they intend to remain for a period exceeding three months, a residence permit must be obtained. The conditions for granting a residence permit depend on the status of the citizen (employed or self-employed person, student, retired or inactive person).

'If a citizen wants to reside in another Member State without exercising any activity or to study, he/she can do so provided he/she can prove (and in the case of students, declare) that he/she has sufficient financial resources not to become a burden for the host Member State's social assistance system and that he/she is covered by a sickness insurance policy. He/she must also prove that he/she has sufficient financial resources and sickness insurance for each member of his/her family who is entitled to reside with him/her.'

victor8600 wrote:

scrudu wrote:... your Lithuanian fiancee doesn't have the right to remain in Ireland unless she can support herself ...

On the second question -- I wish the OP and his friend a lot of luck living with two girls in the same apartment

2 girls in same apartment.. hmmmm I will agree with victor8600 here
Good luck to OP and his friend with two girls in same apartment.

Living with the two girls maybe more beneficial than we can anticipate...
Perhaps not a sham marriage but an open one

hi guys..I think u didn't understand my question..I am asking is there any problem if two couples who are trying to get work permit, if they live together in a same appartment...

Rockz: Your question original question was about obtaining a "Stamp 4 Residence Card" as the spouse of an EU Citizen (presume you meant Stamp4EUFAM and not Stamp4 as posted). You said that your friend was planning to do the same with his Lithuanian fiancee.

Your 2nd post relates to a Work Permit". A Stamp4 or Stamp4EUFAM is not a "work permit". Please clarify what it is you are asking. As a student you would not be issued with a Work Permit as you presumably wouldn't qualify.

I am sry scrudu..its for stamp 4 not work permit,,mistaken..

Why do you keep asking about your visa to stay and work in Ireland ??

Looks like thats the purpose of getting married.

I dont see any problems with two applications been made for EU FAM from the same house/apartment. But you never know if you are applying in Dublin, any marriage to EU citizen now is treated with suspicion. As long as your consience is clear man go for it.

PS: EU citizen wether from Baltic states or continental europe, has to be supporting themselves before your app will be considered, meaning they should be working/studying. And goodluck with two birds under one roof.