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MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted November 21, 2002 06:10 PM I have been in the UK for a year now as a visitor. After many false starts and job offers that never panned out...I have received an official job offer!!! My work permit application was filed on Monday!! It is a tier 2, and from what I can tell on the HO website I think I meet all of the requirements, and my employer (NHS) met all of the advertising criteria, etc...Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else had been trough this with a tier 2? Paranoid, probably!!! But, any thoughts or shared experiences would be appreciated...
Joseph Member Member # 184	Posted November 22, 2002 06:07 PM snowhite104, Tier 2 is not a big deal except for the need for advertising. In the case of NHS, you should have no problem because they have their job notices advertised pretty prominently in many different papers. Also, since they are a UK government entity with critical staff shortages, I would expect that they (and you) will get express treatment. Good luck. Joseph
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted November 22, 2002 06:10 PM Thanks Joseph!!! I think because I have been through so much to finally get to this point, I am paranoid... Thank again I feel better!
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted November 25, 2002 04:35 PM I spoke with personnel at my perspective employer..They haven't heard anything from the HO yet...Hopefully by the end of the week...Apparently they have applied for work permits for this position two other times...One was approved, one was rejected...YIKES!!
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 02, 2002 06:54 PM My worked permit application was rejected!!! Apparently they were not satisfied that the job could not be filled by a resident worker...The thing thats really irritating was they had advertised the position three seperate times over a couple of months and could not find a suitable resident worker...The letter from the HO was so generic, it makes me wonder if they read the applications or are just flipping a coin...Its so upsetting... There was phlebotomy training as part of the job, I have discussed the possibility them re-filing the application as a TWES maybe it would have a better chance of being approved? May be worth a try...Any thoughts?
Joseph Member Member # 184	Posted December 03, 2002 03:32 PM Snowwhite104, Sorry, I assumed that NHS at least had some respect from other parts if the UK government but apparently that's not the case. Given what you said about their extensive advertising, I suspect they didn't do a good job preparing your application. Maybe Workpermit.com can help them? Joseph
lastman Member Member # 2776	Posted December 03, 2002 03:47 PM Snowwhite, May be they did not people from your nationality. Just my 2 pence.
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 03, 2002 04:22 PM I have considered both of your thoughts on this...I just don't know what to do about it at this point...I don't have the money to pay for a solicitor to handle this...I am hoping the hospital can sucessfully appeal or get a different type of work permit, such as TWES or something...
Thorsten von Thyssen Member Member # 4397	Posted December 03, 2002 04:25 PM What was the position (job description) they have applied for you? Anyway, your prospective employer can start an appeal process. -------------------- ----------------------------------- ...cut the bullshit please...
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 03, 2002 04:32 PM The position was a Clinic assistant/phlebotomy trainee...The job decription met the minimum standards for experience and qualifications as per the HO website...Basically, they felt that the job could have been given to a resident worker, but as I said they had advertised for quite a while and had not found anyone...
Elisa Member Member # 2487	Posted December 03, 2002 04:47 PM I think what job you are applying for is the key here. Just because they advertised they still have to show just cause as to why they refused the local applicants..in otherwords the locals would have to have been lacking in qualifications while your qualifications would have to be somewhat superior to theirs. Do you have a university degree and/or experience in the field you are applying to? That might also make a difference as well. If you do have a degree and experience then an appeal might be worthwhile as they'd have something to show that makes you a better candidate than the people who applied. If the position is not graduate level and they are offering to train then the HO might be looking at it from the point of view that a local can be trained and their is no need to hire internationally in that case. I know it's frustrating but the UK is having some hard times right now with employment and they do have to look after their own citizens first however unfair that might seem to you.
Thorsten von Thyssen Member Member # 4397	Posted December 03, 2002 04:53 PM Your employer should have referred to Workpermit.com they would have defined your job description in such a way that you had been the only person in the world who would fit in. -------------------- ----------------------------------- ...cut the bullshit please...
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 03, 2002 04:55 PM I do have a degree and experience...They have gotten a work permit for this position in the past...thats what is so confusing...
Thorsten von Thyssen Member Member # 4397	Posted December 03, 2002 05:12 PM Do you know how many resident workers applied for this position and what were the reasons for their rejection by the company? This is important since the employer needs to explain in the WP application why he preferred to recruit you rather than resident workers. If the reason your employer gave was for example that you had some few months experience advantage, WP UK would reject the application. [ December 03, 2002: Message edited by: TNAVON ] -------------------- ----------------------------------- ...cut the bullshit please...
Elisa Member Member # 2487	Posted December 03, 2002 05:21 PM I know you can't afford a solicitor but perhaps someone here at work permit can help you with an appeal. Perhaps they just were not eloquent or detailed enough in their reasoning in refusals for the local candidates. You do have a degree and experience therefore they just need to show what it is that makes you unique for this position. It doesn't always have to be experience sometimes it can be something as simple as being compassionate - after all you would be dealing with people on a daily basis and believe me I've been in enough hospitals to know that just because someone has a degree it doesn't mean they should be working with people. That is sometimes difficult to communicate on paper and I guess they probably just looked at qualifications and numbers. As I said perhaps they just need help with the 'phrasing' and 'explanation' as to what makes you an outstanding candidate. Maybe send workpermit and email and explain your situation to them and see if they can help you out. I've sent them emails in the past and they've been quite nice about responding and pointing me in the right direction for information. You've got nothing to lose at this point. Don't give up yet!
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 03, 2002 05:50 PM Thanks everyone for the advice...I contacted the person in personnel thats handling all of this and it seems they are going to try to appeal, based in the fact that I do have specialist knowledge in working with disabled children that no one else that applied had...So, we shall see...I have not given up yet!!!
Alex Member Member # 54	Posted December 03, 2002 07:32 PM quote: Originally posted by snowhite104: I have been in the UK for a year now as a visitor. Possibly this is the reason? Usually they (HO) limit visits by 6 months. [ December 03, 2002: Message edited by: Alex ]
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 03, 2002 08:10 PM I have not overstayed...I left the country twice and have a valid 6 month stamp in my passport currently...
workerman Member Member # 2816	Posted December 03, 2002 11:46 PM I was wondering what lastman mentioned. I wouldn't be surprized if your application was rejected on the basis of you not being from the "preferred" list of countries....and little to do with the phrasing of your application.
MelissaA Member Member # 3312	Posted December 04, 2002 12:15 AM what is the preferred list of countries?
WorldCitizen Member Member # 1527	Posted December 04, 2002 04:05 PM Just to add my two cents in here... This is the time when immigration specialists and lawyers can be of help. When the time comes for me I know that I shall be using their services. Many used to work in the home office before moving on to the private sector. No, this is no advert, just my opinion. It is money well spent as far as I'm concerned. I want to be 99.9% confident of the success of my application before it goes off to Croydon... WC [ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: WorldCitizen ]